From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #6 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Thurs, 7 Jan 1999 Vol 06 : Num 006 In this issue: eskrima: Lone Wolf & Cub eskrima: Babycarriage from hell n stuff eskrima: safety eskrima: e-mail addrs eskrima: Zatoichi and the Baby Carriage eskrima: Shoulder rigs eskrima: Prof. Vee passes on eskrima: Samurai Assassin eskrima: Re: Chicago area instructors? eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #3 eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! 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Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Johnson Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 22:33:05 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Lone Wolf & Cub "All this talk of Zatoichi (which I haven't yet had the pleasure of checking out but plan to check out real soon) reminds of a question that has been bugging me: My fiance swears that he has seen a Japanese (or maybe Hong Kong) martial arts movie, circa 1960's or so, in which the hero goes around pushing a baby carriage that is all tricked out with the latest James Bond-type weapons. I am pretty sure he's hallucinating, but he recalls it with fond clarity from his bygone youth. If anyone could confirm the existence of such a movie, and maybe supply me with a title, I would be most grateful." Your fiance is either not hallucinating, or he and I share a concensual delusion. I do not remember the original japanese name, however it was released in north america as "Lone Wolf and Cub". The story line was of a "court executioner" (the term means something closer to "royal assassin" to westerners) who refuses to kill for the emperor after his illegitimate child is born. He is outlawed and the child's mother slain. He then roams the countryside as a hunted ronin trying at the same time to raise his child. I do not know where to find a copy of this film (I would suggest starting with Bugei Trading), but Dark Horse Comics published a surprisingly good adaption of the stories to a manga-like format. "I'd like to hear some comments re: ankle rigs from anyone who has used one and has the kicking habit (pun intended). While I was living in Miami I trained briefly with an LEO who after commenting on ankle rigs told me to "Get used to it." I don't know that I want to use an ankle holster given the possibility that I may reflexively pop a kick out as part of handling a problem ... I have little confidence and less experience with such a scenario." As a Canadian, I find it alien how people of other nationalities speak so casually about firearms. I will not claim to have great experience with ankle rigs since I have only ever worn one around the LAX firing range in LA. However, the LEO who lent it to me (and insisted that I wear it for my entire visit to the range for reasons known only to him) was of the opinion that it was only useful for a backup piece due to the ackward and time-consuming draw speed. I am of the opinion however that you would want to carry a revolver in it as the only autos that you could trust not to go off in extremis would be a Glock or a GB24, both of which are far to heavy to wear and to bulky to conceal. ------------------------------ From: tenrec Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 03:38:29 +0000 Subject: eskrima: Babycarriage from hell n stuff Byrne, Mary Lou wrote: >My fiance swears that he has seen a Japanese (or maybe Hong >Kong) martial arts movie, circa 1960's or so, in which the hero goes around >pushing a baby carriage that is all tricked out with the latest James >Bond-type weapons. This was part of the baby carriage from Hell series of Chanbara films, released during the '60's...I believe it starred Shintaro Katsu (of Zatoichi fame)...I believe Clint Eastwood actually purchased (or is the term optioned) the film rights to make spaghetti-western versions of them... I believe they later updated this on Japanese TV as a (mini-?) series... Mik (da Man) >I'd like to hear some comments re: ankle rigs from anyone who has used >one and has the kicking habit (pun intended) If you have to take this off-digest, could you email(cc/bcc) me any/all info you get on this topic? I find this interesting... TIA tenrec tenrec@avcorner.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:29:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: safety > As a Canadian, I find it alien how people of other nationalities speak > so casually about firearms. I will not claim to have great experience > with ankle rigs since I have only ever worn one around the LAX firing > range in LA. However, the LEO who lent it to me (and insisted that I > wear it for my entire visit to the range for reasons known only to him) > was of the opinion that it was only useful for a backup piece due to the > ackward and time-consuming draw speed. I am of the opinion however that > you would want to carry a revolver in it as the only autos that you > could trust not to go off in extremis would be a Glock or a GB24, both > of which are far to heavy to wear and to bulky to conceal. Re your first sentence, you seem to be getting the hang of it just fine... :) I like Ayoob's term, a firearm is just another piece of 'safety equipment'. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:31:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: e-mail addrs Re the question about the missing addrs from some e-mail headers... Yes, we're still working on it. Several folks have looked into it (including me), but none have figured it out yet. One of these days... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Kalki Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 21:33:56 -0600 Subject: eskrima: Zatoichi and the Baby Carriage Mary Lou, he's not jiving you. If I've got a memory (duh) I think that there was more than one Zatoichi movie featuring the baby/carriage. I don't think that it was a Hong Kong product, Japan yes? Be well, Mik ------------------------------ From: Michael Koblic Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 03:57:55 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Shoulder rigs >Problems with shoulder holsters: > >1) Difficult to conceal unless you button your jacket, which reduces your draw speed. >2) Poor weapon retention. Too easy for someone to grab it. >3) Easy for someone to stop your draw by checking your arm during the drawstroke. >4) Difficult to draw with safe muzzle control; too often people will sweep other people behind or to the sides of them. >5) Most shoulder rigs are very uncomfortable. > >Jay > Interesting! Can you expand on advantages of other concealed carries? Mike Koblic, Quesnel BC ------------------------------ From: Talio Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 00:43:59 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Prof. Vee passes on VISITACION, FLORENDO M. VISITACION-Florendo M. January 4, 1999 at the age of 88. Father of Edward, Laura, and Bladimir; grandfather of Cari, Joshua, Julie, and Dylan; father-in-law of John and Beverly. A tenth degree black belt and W.W. II Veteran, Grand Master ''Prof. Vee'' was the Founder of Vee Jitsu (''The System of Systems''), a form of self-defense unique in its incorporation of diverse techniques drawn from various martial arts. His decades of teaching enriched the lives of generations of martial arts students throughout the United States and in other parts of the world, and the valuable legacy of his art and philosphy lives on in us all. Time and place of Memorial Service to be announced. - -- Hormat, Roberto Torres Talio Self Defense Academy Pencak Silat Perisai Setia "Iron Sharpens Iron, So One Man Sharpens Another." Prov. 27:17 ------------------------------ From: Patrick Davies Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:21:33 -0000 Subject: eskrima: Samurai Assassin The film was called Samurai Assassin (I think) and was a cult classic The ninja had his wife killed by a warlord and so wheeled his son around in his pram while on the road of revenge. The spaghetti western films must have borrowed from this because it held all the characteristics that made Clint eastwood the star he became. From: "Byrne, Mary Lou" > My fiance swears that he has seen a Japanese (or maybe Hong Kong) martial arts movie, circa 1960's or so, in which the hero goes around pushing a baby carriage that is all tricked out with the latest James Bond-type weapons. I am pretty sure he's hallucinating, but he recalls it with fond clarity from his bygone youth. If anyone could confirm the existence of such a movie, and maybe supply me with a title, I would be most grateful. pat Aberdeen Martial Arts Group ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:08:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: eskrima: Re: Chicago area instructors? Howdy all! A friend in Chicago asked me if I could recomend any FMA instructors in the area. Anyone have sugestions? Salamat in advance! Pete Kautz Arnis-Kali Ithaca ------------------------------ From: "Jon Howard" Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:28:25 -0000 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #3 Hi there re this article about "10 myths of knife fighting" could somebody please post it (or a brief synopsis of it) please... >Hock gave his support for each assertion in the '10 myths' article. If you think he's >wrong, give your side of it. Do you believe there's only one effective way to hold a >knife? Support it. Do you think that knife fights end with the first cut or stab? Prove it. >Talk about the issues, not the personalities. > >Scott Kinney > - --------------------------------------------- Jon Howard - jon@full-fat.com "The mind is like a parachute, they both work best when open" - --------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:05:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #6 ************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.