From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #7 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Thurs, 7 Jan 1999 Vol 06 : Num 007 In this issue: eskrima: email address eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #6 eskrima: Sword and the Single Father eskrima: Re: 10 myths online eskrima: Ankle Stuff+ eskrima: Lone Wolf and Cub eskrima: The "Telling" Cut eskrima: Babycarriage from hell eskrima: Seminar in Modernized Phillippine Martial Arts eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #6 eskrima: Prof. Vee's ceremony eskrima: Schools in Chicago Area eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Deal, Chuck" Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:05:35 -0600 Subject: eskrima: email address Alain Burrese, What is your email address? Thanks, Chuck Deal chuck.deal@andrew.com ------------------------------ From: "Jan A. Miernyk" Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 11:19:49 -0600 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #6 Hi Pete, >Howdy all! A friend in Chicago asked me if I could recomend any FMA = instructors in the area. Anyone have sugestions? Salamat in advance! Pete Kautz Arnis-Kali Ithaca< Well Nate, are you going to take this yourself or does modesty prevent = this? :-> Nate Defensor, a fairly active member of this list, is a *very* knowledegab= le and gifted instructor of the FMA. And a very pleasant guy as well! = Guto Nate Defensor, Filipino Kali-Eskrima Academy of Chicago; guronate@wwa.= com Walk in beauty Dr. Death miernykj@mail.ncaur.usda.gov ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:49:02 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Sword and the Single Father A Howl of Greeting to All: On a personal note, I just returned from Virginia, where Cindy, DBIMA's VP in Charge of Reality, has been there for the last three weeks on family matters. She will be there another week. The indulgence of all with pending orders with us is asked and shortly after she is back she will be back on top of things as usual. Similarly, the January Technique sequence will have to wait until then. On the subject of fathers taking the baby son to work in feudal Japan, the name I remember was "Shogun Assassin and Son". I saw it in 1982 I think and it was on a CD the size of an LP record-- a technology that didn't catch on, perhaps it was ahead of its time. I thought the movie was great. The best of the samurai movies have an intensity, an emotional content if you will, that makes most Hollywood stuff pale. Rare in the this genre, there actually are plots with themes that make it possible to watch with your woman and not just your buddies. A piece of trivia: the music/soundtrack on "S A & Son", at least on the early 80s CD version I saw, was by the guy (Lindsay something?) who was the lead singer for Paul Revere and the Raiders. Thanks to all for the help regarding Zatoichi. A couple of quick questions more: About the actor who played him (Shintaru Katsu was it?)-- was he really blind? If I remember correctly, someone mentioned a stuntman doing some of the fight scenes-- what is known about how much Shintaru did and didn't do of the fight scenes? And is the reverse grip he favored considered a sound structure, or was it more a choreographing device for safety on the set with a blind man whizzing the thing around-- i.e. the grip has a much shorter range and the point trails? I really liked these movies, and am now inspired to go track down the Shogun Assassin series too. Woof, Crafty Dog PS: Thanks to all those asking about the second series of DB videos. It is in "pre-production" now. In English this means that we're getting ready-- i.e. Top Dog is coming over every Monday night and helping me get my excrement together. ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 12:50:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: eskrima: Re: 10 myths online > Hi there > > re this article about "10 myths of knife fighting" could somebody please > post it (or a brief synopsis of it) please... Go to Hoch's web page and it is there along with two other articles, one of which was expanded and printed in Black Belt (the "In Search of Modern Hand to Hand Combat" artcle) which did not seem to ruffle feathers like the "10 Myths" piece... www.americanknifefighters.com Pete Kautz Arnis-Kali Ithaca ------------------------------ From: Kalki Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 11:15:30 -0600 Subject: eskrima: Ankle Stuff+ > As a Canadian, I find it alien how people of other nationalities speak > so casually about firearms. > Sorry if my post was at all offensive ... just trolling the waters of the experience assembled here. I don't like the sticks, knives and firearms on the streets of America either ... but they're there and I have to deal with that for the health and well-being of myself and those dear to me or otherwise associated with me in good faith (e.g., neighbors, other law-abiding citizens). Kinda like, "Dose tings got fangs mon, what is best for us to be doing?" Hey, I don't like the idea of what I might be required to do without a firearm, considering that I'm confident that there are things that we can do barehanded that might make a fatality less likely to prevent that an off-target gunshot wound. Don'wan'hurt no one. > I will not claim to have great experience > with ankle rigs since I have only ever worn one around the LAX firing > range in LA. However, the LEO who lent it to me (and insisted that I > wear it for my entire visit to the range for reasons known only to him) > Interesting ... not the same topic, but I recall reading of an instructor who insisted that everyone wear a vest on range at all times ... an instructor lost his life on range while demonstrating something ... I think that a pistol involved was supposed to be unloaded. Anyone recall this incident? It happened at a respectable school ... can't remember any details. > I am of the opinion however that > you would want to carry a revolver in it as the only autos that you > could trust not to go off in extremis would be a Glock or a GB24, both > of which are far to heavy to wear and to bulky to conceal. > How about a DAO mini nine (Kahr, Intratec)? Frankly, I'd rather only - -need- a 21" stick/ASP/etc. but situations may command: do otherwise. I wouldn't expect a firearm to come into play before impact weapon or blade unless facing a firearm at firing distance or able to get to it to deal with multiple opponents (less work? :-) if the situation warrants it. I'd rather splinter someone's shin with a stick and get lost than do something noisy or participate in a blood trail that I'd have to explain if survived. I don't know what life is like in Canada, but there are some pretty nasty highly mobile meanies down here. Hey, I'm a mild-mannered-gentleman-kind-of-guy, but I know what it's like to get sharp in mind and calculate just how quickly I could play ghost and hurt multiple people before stopped or before I vacate the scene (just an "intellectual exercise", don'wanna'go there and don'wanna'incriminate m'self ;-) If the good guy can, of course the bad guy will if he so chooses. Look at B'more and Chicago. Whoa, I thought D.C. was rough... Curious, how does casual talk of firearms compare with casual talk about using a blade or "bludgeon"? I like Ray's quote of Ayoob re: "safety equipment." If we could govern all usages of weapons with that mindset we'd be doing OK IMHO. Literally translated, however, 'utopia' means 'nowhere'. "Gotta make the best of ..." ["Best of"] "A bad situation..." ["Bad situation"] -Gladys Knight and the [Pips] :-) Be well, Mik ------------------------------ From: "Byrne, Mary Lou" Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 10:02:00 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Lone Wolf and Cub Greetings, fellow film buffs! Well, let me just say that you guys are just beyond awesome!! I am totally digging the instant gratification in my search for the Lone Wolf and Cub films. I just love watching samurais hack one another to death, so I'm looking forward to checking these out. And thanks especially to Scott, who pointed me to the web site where they're available. As Scott mentioned, Animeigo is distributing the Lone Wolf films on VHS and laser disk. They have a terrific "Samurai Cinema" area at http://www.videoz.com/SAMCIN/ALL/INTRO.t?ID=C9369823142927154, leading off with a tribute to the late, great Toshiro Mifune. The whole site is just breathtaking and well worth a look. Speaking of Toshiro Mifune, I just purchased the Criterion Collection version of the Samurai Trilogy on DVD from Amazon.com -- good price, absolutely awesome films, and you get the original theatrical trailers on the disc along with the movie. These three films, starring Mifune as Musashi Miyamoto, are just fantastic and I recommend them highly. They're also available on tape at most big video rental outlets. Regards, Mary Lou "Anything worth doing is worth doing to excess." ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 10:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: The "Telling" Cut Happy New Year all! There has been some discussion regarding getting cut during a blade encounter and if you please, I would like to get something clarified. It was explained to me that tourniquets were worn by Filipino Warriors so that any incidental cut would not cause them to bleed to death and hinder their ability to annihilate the enemy. Similarly, I was taught when not in use the back-up hand is placed over the heart to assure that any stab to the heart would require that it first go through the hand; essentially the hand acts like a shield. Obviously any slash or thrust to the body in a bladed encounter is undesirable, but in some cases, cuts will happen. It was concluded then that the emphasis must be placed on the "telling" cut. In the end, the annihilating cut was the focus. (I believe it was said to me, "I will lose a hand, you lose a life") Is this a common concept throughout FMA? Salamat in advance and I apologize if this has been beaten to death in past post. Ron Incidentally, with all this Samurai movie talk, in many of the duels you will see the enemy cut down, then a close up of the Samurai standing over his dead opponent with a slight cut at the Samurai's forehead will a small trickle of blood running down the face. ------------------------------ From: "Gary 808" Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 19:22:55 -0000 Subject: eskrima: Babycarriage from hell I have read that Shintaro guy is a brother of the Zatoichi actor. Not sure about that though. As other have mentioned, it should be available on Bugei releases. I saw the whole series for sale at Tower Videos last summer but it may depend on each location's buyer because most Tower Videos in my state don't carry more than two of the series. tenrec wrote: - --------------------------------------------------- > This was part of the baby carriage from Hell series of Chanbara films, > released during the '60's...I believe it starred Shintaro Katsu (of > Zatoichi fame)...I believe Clint Eastwood actually purchased (or is the > term optioned) the film rights to make spaghetti-western versions of > them... Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ From: "big Joe A." Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 12:17:20 PST Subject: eskrima: Seminar in Modernized Phillippine Martial Arts A two day seminar in Modernized Phillippine Martial Arts, being taught by it's founder Norlito B. Soriano will be conducted on March 13th and 14th in San Jose, California. It wil be held at: Solari Community Center 3590 Cas Drive San Jose , California 95111 Fee: $80 per day Topics Covered : Day 1 will cover the first five basic lessons of the Visayas Style of stickfighting. This day is open to the public. Day 2 will cover intermediate and advanced lessons of the visayas style of stickfighting. This day is only open to current and former students of Mr. Soriano. For more Info. contact: Joe Artigas (408)266-2931 or E-mail me at Ninjoe@hotmail.com Pls. make phone contact between 10 A.M.-7 P.M. Pacific Standard Time. If I'm not there please leave a message and I will get back to you as soon as possible. - -----------*********Absolutely NO cameras Allowed******-------------- P.S. Space is Limited So reserve now. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Brian McCarthy Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 15:19:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #6 > > From: Talio > Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 00:43:59 -0800 > Subject: eskrima: Prof. Vee passes on > > VISITACION, FLORENDO M. > > VISITACION-Florendo M. January 4, 1999 at the age of 88. Father of Edward, Laura, and Bladimir; grandfather of Cari, > Joshua, Julie, and Dylan; father-in-law of John and Beverly. A tenth degree black belt and W.W. II Veteran, Grand Master ''Prof. > Vee'' was the Founder of Vee Jitsu (''The System of Systems''), a form of self-defense unique in its incorporation of diverse > techniques > drawn from various martial arts. His decades of teaching enriched the lives of generations of martial arts students throughout the > United States and in other parts of the world, and the valuable legacy of his art and philosphy lives on in us all. Time and place of > Memorial Service to be announced. A memorial service will be held on Sunday, January 17, 1999, at the Riverside Memorial Chapel 180 West 76th St. and Amsterdam Ave. in Manhattan. Brian McCarthy ------------------------------ From: Talio Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 16:44:19 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Prof. Vee's ceremony Greetings to all: I spoke with Prof. Vee's daughter today, she stated that there will be a ceremony at the following location, Prof. Vee's ceremony will be held on Sunday Jan, 17th , 3pm at Riverside Memorial Chapel, 180 W. 76th St( 76thand Amsterdam Ave). N.Y. - -- Hormat, Roberto Torres Talio Self Defense Academy Pencak Silat Perisai Setia "Iron Sharpens Iron, So One Man Sharpens Another." Prov. 27:17 ------------------------------ From: "Deal, Chuck" Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:59:31 -0600 Subject: eskrima: Schools in Chicago Area >Howdy all! A friend in Chicago asked me if I could recomend any >FMA instructors in the area. Anyone have sugestions? > >Salamat in advance! > >Pete Kautz >Arnis-Kali Ithaca Islander's Karate Guru Ken Smith (708) 460-7360 Teaches Modern Arnis The school is in Orland Park 30 miles south of Chicago Chuck Deal chuck.deal@andrew.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 15:12:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #7 ************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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