From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #35 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Wed, 27 Jan 1999 Vol 06 : Num 035 In this issue: eskrima: Re: winter carrying eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #34 eskrima: January Sequence eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #32 eskrima: Brass Knuckles eskrima: traditional uniforms n stuff eskrima: Online Bookstore eskrima: Stickbags eskrima: Glove Liners eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #34 eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #34 eskrima: Making a kife and sword? eskrima: Kali/Arnes bags. eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "gte/tireboy" Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:00:38 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Re: winter carrying Howdy, Thanks for the info I've gotten so far. Some info I knew from past experience and past discussions on this list and some new. I got to thinking last night about knives during the winter and Crafty mentioned something similar to it during his last post. What knives work best against heavy clothing? For myself, during really cold weather, I wear a parka. During kinda cold weather 10-40 F, I wear a leather biker jacket. Winter clothing, to be honest, is practically armor for the upper body. Some of the serrated knives that digest members carry would make short work of the parka and have trouble with the leather on anything other than a stab. A sharp even edge knife would probably do the same or fair a bit worse on cutting but the same on stabbing. And considering who we are expecting to get cut by, the knives the normal attacker has isn't anywhere as good as what we carry. Most Taiwan cheap knives don't cut for diddly, but stab just as well as high quality knives. It would seem that those of us in cold climes have a few advantages. 1. Its cold, fewer folks out there waiting in the cold to do muggings. 2. We're pretty much wearing light armor during cold weather. So, you simply needing to watch out mostly to protect head, legs, and stabs. This is fairly simple, but I'm pressed for time. Any thoughts about these ideas? Eric ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:31:17 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #34 In a message dated 99-01-26 16:34:40 EST, you write: << Also, never consent to a search and never, ever tell the LEO your knife is for self defense. If asked, and I never have been, I will tell him I'm a knifemaker/distributor, show him my business card and explain that I'm evaluating the knives I'm carrying. >> I habitually carry a Mini-mag (small flashlight) and a pair of pliers on my belt as well as my fixed blade. When I say I carry it for work it's really hard to argue it these are useful tools to have handy. Gee maybe he could try to force the issue saying I was carrying burglary tools, but my lawyer would be in liver quivering joy over the possibility of a false arrest suit. But I would also like to add my endorsement to the statement that politeness is your best way to avoid trouble. Animal ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:05:23 -0800 Subject: eskrima: January Sequence Yip Yip! With apologies for the delay, I am delighted to report that the January technique sequence is up at: www.dogbrothers.com It is on preventing grappling and features Salty Dog. Woof, Crafty Dog ------------------------------ From: thom Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:49:57 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #32 John Frankl writes: >>My questions are why a folder at all if self-defense/radid deployment is a primary consideration? How do you deal with the gloves? What, besides cosmetics, makes a folder "tactical"?<< Mind you, I am no knife fighting expert, LEO, or anything even moderately impressive, but I do carry a folding knife daily. Here is my reasoning: My folder tucks neatly into the pocket or waistband of my right side regardless of what I am wearing. Anything from suits to shorts will leave only the clip showing, while making it easy to reach. As a result, I only have to practice/play with one drawing motion, since my knife is always in roughly the same place. This means that I never have to wonder where I put it today, or reach for it and feel that sickening feeling that comes from forgetting something important. As far as gloves go, it is a matter of practice. To be certain, my thick ski mittens make it tougher to open, but I have gotten used to it. The lighter gloves are pretty easy to work with by comparison. I am not sure that this is a textbook definition (read: I don't know what other people mean when they say it.) but I consider a tactical folder to be anything of decent size to be combatitive, which comes equipped with a one handed opening option and a belt clip. Others may define it more precisely... Most importantly, I think of my knife as either a deterrent tool, or a weapon of last resort. Honestly, I have noticed that most bullies only want to hurt. They do not want to BE hurt, so most of them walk if confronted by anything they're not sure of. I would much rather not be bled upon myself, but I would prefer the option of ending things quickly should it go that far. Stay safe - --Thom ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 19:52:53 EST Subject: eskrima: Brass Knuckles Other than old gangster movies, and some photo's of gladiators, I have seen very little about brass knuckles, knuckle busters/cestus, etc. There is a quick clip of the "Yashai Warlord" Blaise Loong, using them on his video. Does anyone have any experience using them or play sparring with makeshift ones?? Tom Furman...tcsno@aol.com ------------------------------ From: tenrec Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 03:05:51 +0000 Subject: eskrima: traditional uniforms n stuff Jim Lowe wrote: >So what exactly is a "traditional FMA" uniform? I'm betting it's what ever you >were wearing at the time. ;) (Sorry, I couldn't resist.) Ja...there have been questions raised as to whether the "traditional FMA" uniform is accurate or culturally correct...IMHO, and from what the old-timers have told me, the traditional uniform was simply street clothes or the "camisa chino" and "farmers pants" (later red pants became the standard, ca. 60's-70's, I think because of Remy Presas' Modern Arnis)... Can anyone tell us who first wore these "traditional FMA uniforms?" I mean aside from the Bayanihan Dance Troupe... And here I thought everybody on the digest was just "too laid back" this month... Another topic: Does anyone know of any stub or knob that can be attached to a penknife/swiss army knife main blace which allows the knife to be opened with one hand only? I believe I say something like this in a knife mag years ago, but cannot track it down now? Anyone? Anyone? tenrec tenrec@avcorner.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:46:27 EST Subject: eskrima: Online Bookstore Hi All, I just finished the latest update on our online book site... over 100 martial arts and related books reviewed! All with links to Amazon.com. Please feel free to drop by and check it out. And much thanks to those who have been sending me copies of books for review. This latest update should contain all of them. http://users.aol.com/taoart/amwa/amwa.htm Let me know what you think! M. Gardner AMWA http://users.aol.com/taoart/amwa/amwa.htm - A Comprehensive Martial Arts and Self Defense website: With an online bookstore, public bulletin board, articles, and over 1000 links. ------------------------------ From: "Michael Melone" Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 04:35:43 -0000 Subject: eskrima: Stickbags This is an open question to those of you interested in getting stick bags. What are some of the features you find useful in a stick bag? How many sticks should it hold? Do you like draw string or a flap type closure? On a flap type closure should it close with a snap or velcro. What type of material, denim, leather, nylon or something else? I'm designing a stick bag and any info you all could give me will be much appreaciated. Ciao Mike GET YOUR OWN FREE, PRIVATE E-MAIL ACCOUNT FROM RECYCLER.COM -- FREE CLASSIFIEDS, FREE AUCTIONS, AND LOTSA R'COMMUNITY -- HTTP://WWW.RECYCLERMAIL.COM ------------------------------ From: Kalki Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:05:06 -0600 Subject: eskrima: Glove Liners OK, OK ... logo on back, I wear them with the logo over the palm. Since it's a liner, wearing them this way makes no diff. Be well, Mik ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:10:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #34 > I missed the previous catchwrestling discussions. Has anyone trained > with Matt Furey and seen his proficiency with hooks? I trained with > him before he got into catchwrestling, his takedowns and > control-groundwork were incredible, but his submissions weren't > great. I'd love to hear an update on how he's come along. > Last year at the 2nd Annual American Grappling Summit Mat Fury showed some of his prowise with "hooking" along with his amazing skill in Shuai Jiao. He made a great point of showing how wrestling was a martial art, and detailed some of the hooks that work well as counters to the common BJJ techniques and standoff positions. He went into techniques for when in the guard, when being blocked with the leg when in side controll, and in several other positions. He is an incredibly skilled and even better conditioned athlete! His teaching of the submissions was also tactical in that you were attacking the opponents position ("He wants to go to the guard, well, ok - so counter from there!") and not simply trying to get an armlock or whatever. He was showing a bigger picture. Pete Kautz Arnis-Kali Ithaca ------------------------------ From: "David W. Fulton" Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:13:26 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #34 At 04:36 PM 1/26/99 -0500, you wrote: >From: "Marc Denny" >Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:59:47 -0800 >Subject: eskrima: Cold Carries & its just a tool, officer <> > On legal issues, of course this varies wildly not only from jurisdiction >to jurisdiction, but also from LEO to LEO, and context to context. >Regardless, it may be a good idea to already have one's thinking clear as >to all the good, legal reasons to carry the tool known as a knife before >entering into conversation with some perturbed constabulary. (BTW, here in >California, self-defense is NOT a legal reason-- to the contrary it is an >admission of felonious intent to carry a weapon.) For example in my life I >use the tool known as a knife in the following ways: Hmmm...no wonder they call you "Crafty"! :o) BTW, has anyone heard of people having trouble with LEO's for using a cane in self defense? Any suggestions for special handle configurations or wood types that would be attractive and conducive to both uses? TIA. Dave. ------------------------------ From: John Gaasland Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 07:27:49 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Making a kife and sword? I would like to make a wood knife and sword for my daughter as a gift. Can someone tell me where I can find some specifications or drawings that will help me do this? Thanks, John Gaasland. ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:32:01 EST Subject: eskrima: Kali/Arnes bags. hmm I make stick bags ..I'll have to check my records and see who I made the "biggest" bag for..LOL Barb ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:16:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #35 *************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.