From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #43 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Mon, 1 Feb 1999 Vol 06 : Num 043 In this issue: eskrima: Attributes eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #42 Re: just a few recommnedations eskrima: Books eskrima: Hilot eskrima: Duds eskrima: NJJ? eskrima: Tai Chi Fighters (slight reprise) eskrima: Re: Functional Tai Chi eskrima: Re: Tai Chi Fighting eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:04:10 EST Subject: eskrima: Attributes In a message dated 1/30/99 9:05:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, eskrima-digest- owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I agree with you, it is not something most people just roll into. There are exceptions however: Chris "the Tree that Walks" Poznik fought, and won, after nine lessons with me. We have many stories about this man (pried open a fighting pit bulls jaws with his hands(!) but he did lose a fingertip (!!!), a high level wrestler (once threw the Russian Olympic Gold medallist twice in a match) former bounty hunter, Royce Gracie is reputed to have said that he is the strongest man he ever wrestled, etc etc you get the idea. He has the tendon strength of an orangutan and in strength I am to him what a small female is to me, yet he's only some 12-15 pounds bigger than me. He's also a brown belt, going for black, in Machado BJJ. >> As Dan Inosanto said,.."Talent is God-given, .. be thankful!"...I am well aware of the natural attributes that some are born with. Maybe Crafty could elaborate on the training methods used by Chris Poznik for strength, Big Irv, for durability,...or Top Dog for power and entering with his kangaroo, etc. You mentioned on your tapes about cultivation and maintainence, and your former instructor, Paul Vunak, concentrates on attribute development. How about letting the masses in on the plyometrics, strength, and endurance angles??------>Tom Furman..tcsno@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:09:19 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #42 Re: just a few recommnedations In a message dated 99-01-31 15:47:36 EST, you write: << .capt fairbairn put out a book called 'get tough'.....it is very very basic stuff....but the interesting part is the diagram of the human body withe the major arteries and veins.......he lists the depths below the skin surface and approximate time for death to follow.....dont really know how valid it is >> greetings to all..... in regards to the above book.... does anybody know how valid it is??? also can anybody else recommend any books with similar information?? peace and harmony... tonessssss acrm666@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:30:00 +73600 (PST) Subject: eskrima: Books > << .capt > fairbairn put out a book called 'get tough'.....it is very very basic > stuff....but the interesting part is the diagram of the human body withe the > major arteries and veins.......he lists the depths below the skin surface and > approximate time for death to follow.....dont really know how valid it is >> > > greetings to all..... > in regards to the above book.... does anybody know how valid it is??? > also can anybody else recommend any books with similar information?? Check out the books available via http://www.martialartsresource.com, the Eskrima side. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:07:14 EST Subject: eskrima: Hilot Someone else was inquiring about this so I'll add my question to his. Is there any material out there book, video, website that has info. on hilot ? Or secondarily, is some of the info. on hilot related to shiatsu or trad. Chinese medicine so by studying those discilplines one could get a clue on hilot? BTW the story of the Japanese stylist disarming his opponent by taking a stab wound to his hand, is similar to one told to me by Guro Nate Defensor that some of you are probably familiar with of a Fma stylist going against a superior knife fighter wherein the Fma stylist disarms and defeats his opponent by taking a stab wound/disarm of the knife to his hand. Happy training Sid "Vicious" Stein Sidney525@aol.com Fil. Kali-Escrima Academy of Chicago/Defensor Method ------------------------------ From: tenrec Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 03:36:14 +0000 Subject: eskrima: Duds PinoyKowboy (shouldn't this be spelt Pinoykobboy?) >Me came from Luzon via Cavite City they wear White T-shirt,Red Loose >Drawstring Pants,Bandana around the Neck and Rice Strawhat front is flap up . Ja this is what I was talking about, but without the farmer's hat... Others opted (70') with jogging pants and tees, others just street jeans and tees... tenrec tenrec@avcorner.com ------------------------------ From: Kalki Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:11:37 -0600 Subject: eskrima: NJJ? > Prior to the rise of NJJ I had never > thought of a choke as anything other than a lethal move ... > Sorry muchachos ... meant BJJ ... my non-typist digits at work again. Be well, Mik ------------------------------ From: Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:17:16 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Tai Chi Fighters (slight reprise) I forgot to mention Tsuei Wei, who supposedly had 8 kills in hand to hand combat during the Chinese Civil War. Founder of the first accredited acupuncture school in the U.S. (in Oakland), his idea of being armed is carrying a toothpick when leaving a restaurant. This guy looks the part of an old Taoist priest perfectly .... Jeff "Stickman" Finder stickman@autobahn.org ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 00:26:26 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Re: Functional Tai Chi >From: gold@ij.net >Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:41:45 -0800 >Subject: eskrima: Tai Chi Fighting > >>Functional tai chi? Shuai jiao. Check out the cheng style taiji book and >>video offered on the USSA homepage. > > We have a Shuai Jiao grandmaster here in the Bay Area, and some of my >students cross trained with him. It's brutally effective, but I wouldn't >call it Tai Chi Chuan ....... BTW, Marc Sabin's current teacher, Patrick There is a strong similarity between yang style forms and shuai jiao. I know this is the FMA list and history and reasons for this is not what I will go into. >Lee, does Chen (Cheng?) Style. The level of push hands that I just For the above reason. Cheng deng sheng "created" chang style taichi. In short, its basiclly shuai jiao forms strung together to flow like a taichi form. Some call it a modifyed yang form. "We" call yang style taichi modifyed shuai jiao... :) To put things more on topic. Is'nt there a stick judo? Judo throws using sticks? Now, i'd like to see more of that. >experienced would be perfect for a bouncer. >Jeff "Stickman" Finder >stickman@autobahn.org Bouncers should defintly concentrate more on the push hands and chin-na stuff rather than breaking people's necks... :) Turiyan gold@ij.net ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 07:07:40 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: Tai Chi Fighting Hello, I saw in an interview that Punong Guro Edgar Sulite studied and practiced Tai Chi. He didn't go much into detail about principels he used from it, but talked mostly about how it helped him relax, espically before sparring. Does anyone from Lamenco have any insight into weather or not PG Sulite was using body mechanics or internal energy applications from Tai Chi when he taught or when he was fighting? Thanks, Joe ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:59:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #43 *************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.