From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #77 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Tues, 23 Feb 1999 Vol 06 : Num 077 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #75 eskrima: yo-yos eskrima: Re: Isometrics eskrima: Re:YOYO eskrima: modern arnis n stuff eskrima: Re: A comparison of styles eskrima: Lactate etc. eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1050 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:44:31 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #75 In a message dated 2/21/99 4:12:38 PM, you wrote: <>me <>JFinder Thanks for the information regarding this. I believe Mr. Clements should be commended for having the open mind to mingle with FMAs and also realise when his info was in error. Now we won't have to keep addressing the inaccuracies that the HACA essay produced. The only criticism I had about his essay was that it was from the perspective that he had all the correct info- since it was mostly a critique of another well known FMA's writings. Eurocentric individuals tend to rely on his words more than from some individual whose culture they are not too familiar or interest in. Having seen the very best sabre and foil fencers produced by the US (attending trials and having a sibling train with the Westbrook school) and the great coaches which have migrated to the US from Europe- I definitely agree that if one played the thrust and linear footwork with these guys- you'll end up being a human pin cushion. My brother mentioned that when he used some of the lateral and traingular footwork (although very limited on the strip space) - even the higher level guys took awhile to adjust since they are accustomed to 'running' through a guy and the guy defending while retreating and advancing against their beat. It would be great to see what would happen if the fencing strip were redesigned into larger circular 'ring' with the electronic sensors on the swords picked up via remote. - --Rafael-- ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:56:22 -0800 Subject: eskrima: yo-yos >As far as yo yo weapons are concerned. Outside of a garrot, what good is >it? If someone catches it you are a fish on a hook, or you will lose your >finger! I prefer yo yo's as toys, and leave more conventional weapons for >self defense. I thought it was originally for hunting, not fighting. You know, sit by the trail and stun the little bunny as it goes by ... >I agree with the Stickman. Just curious, but does anyone know this guy? The lack of follow up in this regard does nothing to allay my suspicions that Haro is no expert. Escrima is well known in Stockton, so I'd wager that anytime a Filipino gets busy with a knife, assumptions are made. Since most students seem to get into this art in early 20's (late teens at earliest), unless he is trained in-family, the "expert" designation seems presumptive, but it does look good on a report. Besides, most folks I consider to be real experts use much better discretion than taking out a bum. Jeff "Stickman" Finder] stickman@autobahn.org ------------------------------ From: szorn@webtv.net (STEVE ZORN) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:49:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: eskrima: Re: Isometrics I have been involved with isometrics, dynamic tension, and weight training for years and I completely agree with all of you on the fact that during an isometric muscle contraction you should breath in a relaxed manner. However, as I look through all of the old isometric books I have, they clearly state to inhale and hold this breath during a complete 5-7 second isometric contraction. This and the fact that holding the breath during exertion is natural is probably what started this bad habit. Steve ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:28:52 EST Subject: eskrima: Re:YOYO In a message dated 2/22/99 10:38:30 AM, you wrote: <> Folks that have read my previous posts on this list know that I am a stictler about giving Filipinos credit for what they have accomplished, but a source in the Philippines just e-mailed me and told me this may be the stuff of urban legend- this same guy Flores was also supposedly the originator of the 'FLOuREScent' light and sold it to GE... yeah right. I'd take this with a grain of salt unless someone else can add some more legitimate info. - --Rafael-- ------------------------------ From: tenrec Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 03:01:58 +0000 Subject: eskrima: modern arnis n stuff Arnis Student Philippines wrote: >Hi. I'm a modern arnis student (novice) based in the Philippines and a >long-time lurker on this digest. You make some interesting points...offhand and IMLE, Modern Arnis is a good place to begin learning (and even stay with if you are comfortable with it)... P.S. could you provide your email-address next time (or email at my address below)...I would like to field a few questions to you if that's okay (some off-topic PI related q's) thanks tenrec tenrec@avcorner.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:59:41 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: A comparison of styles In a message dated 02/22/1999 04:51:55 PM, Arnis Student wrote: >I'm a modern arnis student (novice) based in the Philippines and a >long-time lurker on this digest. I live in Columbus and also a long time lurker. I believe that I've posted here only once or twice. >I know each arnis/eskrima/kali style has its strengths and weaknesses, >but I'd like to ask anyone and everyone who has extensively studied the modern >arnis of Remy/Ernesto Presas AND one or more other style (Doce Pares, >Lameco, Caballero, PT, etc.), what he or she thinks the former's strengths >and weaknesses are vis'-a-vis' the rest. And perhaps even state what >style, in his or her opinion, is better (for self-defense and combat),as >well as why. Biases are inevitable, but not necessarily unwelcome if >explained. Being that the Midwest (more specifically Ohio) is not exactly a hotbed of FMA and due to the fact that I've not seen other FMA besides Remy Presas' Modern Arnis and Vee JJ (GM Florendo Visitacion), I would like to see the responses to Arnis Student's queries. Right now, it's more of an academic interest than anything else. So if any of you intend to privately e-mail Arnis Student regarding his question, I'd like to be copied. >I'm thinking, study modern arnis first; get proficient at it (which would >take a lifetime of studying, I know); but certainly later seek out >instruction from other styles, for growth, using modern arnis as my "base". > I guess I need to know your opinion on whether it would be better to use >another style as the base and just learn the "positive" aspects of modern >arnis as an adjunct. I think that you've got a good strategy here. I've got about 15 years in Vee Ju Jitsu (which is my core art) before getting in Modern Arnis (for about a year now). The nice thing about having Vee JJ as a core art is that many of the principles/concepts are quite similar to what is found in Modern Arnis, which has made my transition into Modern Arnis much easier than I had thought. I was quite fortunate to find Modern Arnis as my instructor (Daniel McConnell) is practically a neighbor of mine. Never did I think that I would find an FMA school in Ohio. I think that it's a good strategy to use Modern Arnis (or any other FMA) as a base art and master it first before investigating other arts. The thing that you want to avoid is to become the jack of all trades and master of none. Take care Brian Johns Columbus Ohio billyja695@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Michael Koblic Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:29:45 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Lactate etc. >Does >lactate pass through the blood-brain barrier? An excellent question. It should not, as it is an ion. It certainly is not generated in the brain to any significant degree as you correctly say. I really cannot vouch for the details of the physiological mechanism how the lactate impairs judgement. One could postulate pH changes, other ion shifts etc. I was more concentrating on the fact that under anaerobic metabolism (of the skeletal muscle) high blood lactate levels correlate with impairment of judgement. I was purely theorizing as to how it affects learning. BTW I had an interesting experience last week: A tennis pro was trying to make my serve less embarassing (unfortunately I find it easier to find people willing to hit tennis balls than heads!) I hit about 250 of them after half an hour of hitting ground strokes. The last 50 were probably the best. I suspect that Tuhon McGrath was right all along - I was just too knackered to hit anything else but a a relatively smooth and slow motion, involving only the large muscles of the body. It always amazes me how a slower tennis serve motion (or a slower golf swing!) produces a much higher racket-head/clubhead speed. IMHO stick work is not all that different (actually, doing stick work has helped both my golf and tennis). Enough drivel, Mike Koblic, Quesnel BC ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:18:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #77 *************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.