From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #86 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sat, 27 Feb 1999 Vol 06 : Num 086 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Plyometrics and NYC Silat eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #85 eskrima: elbow to head --> parkinson's eskrima: lock up Mik's coffee before he writes again! eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #85 eskrima: RE:Iowa eskrima: Plyometrics eskrima: Abu Dhabi Results eskrima: Custom Stick Bag eskrima: Re: Peter Kautz eskrima: Re:Jeff Finder eskrima: Stick Twirling eskrima: RE: silat in NYC eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1050 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Todd D. Ellner" Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 20:39:30 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Re: Plyometrics and NYC Silat >Also, >Anyone know of a good Silat instructor in NYC? I just talked to a Silat player who works for the Indonesian consulate in Vancouver, Canada. He knows a legitimate teacher in Queens called Taryana Sastranegara. Don't know any more than that, but it should be enough to track him down. Todd ------------------------------ From: jmfrankl Date: Sat, 27 Feb 99 00:20:56 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #85 >no matter >which tournament one goes to, there will be rules to abide by......which >means >you cant use certain techniques in a situation where one would want to use >them in order to end the fight as quickly as possible....... Think about war. Potentially much more brutal than your average bar fight and still (despite Klaucewitz theories to the contrary) anything but "all out." Although nukes and chemicals may be the deadliest weapons out there--the ones that would "end the fight as quickly as possible"--they will also up the ante to levels that some feel are unacceptable. LEO's are the same story--a couple of rounds from a sidearm are the quickest way to neutralize any threatening situation, but obviously "good shoot"s are few and far between. Same thing in the street. One cannot "nuke" (i.e. eye jab, groin kick, throat chop) every guy who looks at one wrong, makes the unwise drunk comment about a woman, or even shoves one for that matter. The final decision to escalate, or not, is personal and I do not propose to make it for others, but some thought beyond "Better to be tried by twelve...." might be useful before deciding to end every fight as quickly as possible. John ------------------------------ From: Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:14:40 -0500 Subject: eskrima: elbow to head --> parkinson's >From: Cory Andrew Eicher >Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:59:05 -0600 (Central Standard Time) >Subject: eskrima: Re: elbows > [snip] > >You are absolutely correct in this... it's ok to take a punch to >the top of the skull once or twice while you are in the process >of closing with someone, but continual pounding in practice leads >to some unfortunate results (Mohammed Ali as an example). > >With this in mind it seems evident that we should try to avoid >either pounding or getting pounded in the head as much as >possible, to prevent eventual lifetime brain damage. [snip] OK, referring back to a previous thread on taking stick shots to head with helmets/fencing masks and boxing's blows to head leading to Parkinson's Disease - ---> see I am not the only one thinking that repeated blows to the head will lead to Parkinson's as indirectly written by Cory by mentioning Ali as an example :-) Is it possible that it is a genetic disorder due to lack of serotonin _AND_ repeated head trauma? Very best, Hy bakayaru@pipeline.com ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:39:10 -0800 Subject: eskrima: lock up Mik's coffee before he writes again! A Howl etc: Well, it looks like Mik has been at the caffeine again. We've been around this mulberry bush of diet before, so I'll be brief. I would posit the examples of Eskimos and the American Indians before the white man as examples of healthy people with significant animal protein. I offer the general feebleness and fragility of so many vegetarians (certainly not all, the Tarahumara Indians of Mexico do very nicely on beans, corn and corn beer) as an argument in favor of animal protein. I believe that man's evolution into a hunter has been one of the most significant steps in his evolutionary history and is a major factor in why we left the chimpanzee behind. However the animal protein of our environment can be quite different from that of the Paleolithic period. Its fatty and riddled with drugs, hormones, and anti-biotics. Just today I saw a piece in the newspaper that they have found bacteria on chicken feed for which we have no anti-biotics. I trust my free market credentials are in pretty good order, but when you have the agro-industry giving anti-biotics to our food supply so they can jam more animals together at the cost of destroying the effectiveness of one of the great scientific advancements of this century, you have a cost not being born by the buyer or seller and as such a violation of the one of the cardinal rules of the free market. It may or may not be coincidental that the attorney for Tyson Foods, the largest employer in the state of Arkansas, was the advisor to Hillary Clinton during her remarkable run of good luck in commodity futures at the time that her husband was running for Governor. Or it could be that they simply put her name on the winning side of commodity straddles at the end of the day and so put $100K of laundered money in her pocket. And it may be coincidental that the Clinton Administration's first Secretary of Agriculture got in trouble for, amongst several things, not following up with increased safety regulations of chicken and beef supply. Woof, Crafty Dog ------------------------------ From: "Jeffrey Monaghan" Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:48:28 -0800 Subject: eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #85 Jeff Harris, If you are training under Rick tell him I said Hi. He used to do Reiki and Tai Chi. I used to train with him in Beaverdale. We were the only people in town. If he doesn't remember, tell him I'm the Guy who used to practice Silat/JKD/Inosanto-LaCosta. We used to train in his basement. This was in 1992-1993. Jeff Monaghan ------------------------------ From: "Jeffrey Monaghan" Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:49:05 -0800 Subject: eskrima: RE:Iowa Hey Matt, Where do you live? I grew up in Des Moines. I used to drive to Chicago to go to seminars with Dan Inosanto. There is a friend of mine named Rick but I lost touch with him. He is a 1st Dan in Modern Arnis under Remy Presas. If you go to Bobby Baranegan's Chinese Kempo school on SW ninth he may still be in contact with him. There is also an informal group under a guy that trains with Rick Feye. Pete (?) is a full instructor under Larry Hartsell in Cedar Rapids. There is a guy under Larry and Dan in Dubuque who runs a commercial school, Dean (?) but I forget his name. I started in Pekti Tersia under Vic Harris but he moved. Then I trained in Iowa City/Coraville with Langely West in 1990. He opened a school and it was still going after I moved back to Des Moines, but the last time I went back it was closed and he had moved. I don't know if he is still there teaching out of his house or moved to another state. But there were about six original members besides me that trained there until 1994. He was an apprentice under P.Vunac's line and switched to Dan I. Some of his students are probably still around. We used to drive six hours each way to train once a month, so I'm sure they are still training. But other than that, it's one of the reasons I moved to SF, CA. Jeff ------------------------------ From: Peter Sampogna Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 11:25:17 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Plyometrics Does anyone have any suggestions on incorporating plyometric training into martial arts workouts? Which exercises, scheduling, etc. check out a book by Health for life Explosive Power 213-450-0070 by the way their ab program kicks ass Pete Sampogna ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 09:33:47 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Abu Dhabi Results A Howl etc: Here are the results from Abu Dhabi: Egan Inoue beat Renzo Gracie. under 65k: Royler Gracie 76K: Jean Jacques Machado-- in very impressive form-- all victories were by submission, including the quickest in the tournament-- 44 seconds, with the longest being only 5:09 (matches were 10 minutes). 87K Kareem Barklaev 98K Jeff Munsen: Rigan Machado lost in the semi-finals in overtime (15 minutes) by a mere advantage to the eventual winner, Jeff Munsen-- who won the finals in 40 minutes. 99K and up: Mark Kerr Open Class: Roberto Traven first, Sakurai second, and Rico Rodriguez, a 290lb, 21 year old purple belt from Machado Jiu Jitsu, took third. Superfight: Mario Sperry on points. woof, Crafty ------------------------------ From: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:29:05 EST Subject: eskrima: Custom Stick Bag My stick bag finally arrived. It came out great. If you all want well made custom bags, get in contact with Specialty Outdoors. They should be able to help you. By the way, 1050 denier Ballistic cloth is much thicker than 1000 denier Cordura. This bag should last me my lifetime (I hope!). Specialty Outdoors Sewing http://www.nextdim.com/users/pschwyn/index.htm E-mail: pschwyn@nextdim.com _______________________ Kelvin Williams kel620@aol.com Modern Arnis Student ------------------------------ From: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:15:57 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: Peter Kautz <> I agree, the more knowledge is shared the more we realize that we all have bits and pieces of the whole puzzle. <> Thanks Pete! - --Rafael-- ------------------------------ From: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:23:04 EST Subject: eskrima: Re:Jeff Finder <>JF Jeff- I find that this reaction is universal so far on the list- your post and Pete's begin almost identically..heh. From someone who 'discovered' this essay about a year and a half ago... the recent events has eased the annoyance factor a bit. Whoever thought of including Clements in the Mardi Gras seminar should be thanked. - --Rafael-- ------------------------------ From: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 15:17:13 EST Subject: eskrima: Stick Twirling I'm having some trouble twirling my stick. When I do the #3 and #4 cut through strikes(Modern Arnis system), I have a hard time twirling the stick at the end of the cut through. How long does it take for the wrist to be able to execute this motion? Does anyone have any suggestions on exercises that can "loosen up" my wrists? Thanks in advance, Kelvin Williams kel620@aol.com Modern Arnis Student ------------------------------ From: "james lankford" Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:16:08 -0500 Subject: eskrima: RE: silat in NYC if you can make it out to Princeton, NJ http://www.pamausa.com/silat.html ------------------------------ From: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 15:08:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #86 *************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.