From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #89 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Mon, 1 March 1999 Vol 06 : Num 089 In this issue: eskrima: ED v6 #87 eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #88 eskrima: cont. eskrima: Head blows and Parkinsons eskrima: Looking for FMA eskrima: Melanin and Carotene eskrima: PAMA eskrima: People Eating Tasty Animals eskrima: Hernia eskrima: Head cases [none] eskrima: back to FMA... .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1050 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lee yow ching Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 23:51:44 +0800 (MYT) Subject: eskrima: ED v6 #87 In EDv6 #87, Ray wrote: >Ok, folks... Time to get chubby. No more diet stuff. > If this matter gets further discussed in private email, i'd appreciate a forwarded copy please. regards and respect, Mel Penang, Malaysia. ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:17:09 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #88 In a message dated 3/1/99 10:38:25 AM, you wrote: <>PK Peter, I forgot who posted that statement so I don't know who said such things about Clements. However, I have met and seen some of the old school Russian and european sabre/foil masters who migrated to the states to know better than question their skill with a blade. I think it would be like a ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:29:04 EST Subject: eskrima: cont. I think it would be like a Canete who definitely supports the WEKAF tournaments but everyone knows they can wipe the floor with alot of folks in a real stick fight. You made reference to the Dog bros., I never heard of them belittle or downgrade a Cacoy or Leo Gaje. Same here with the fencing masters- we can't make blanket statements and say they don't have skills outside of the sport. We're talking about folks who were born into fencing families and some like Westbrook (and he is not on the level of some of the old guys) train in other martial arts. One has to acknowledge them and make one's points without having to belittle or downgrade another's art. Unless, Clements goes over to Russia or Europe and takes on their best - it's not productive. But that's just my opinion . - --Rafael-- ------------------------------ From: Cory Andrew Eicher Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:07:18 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Subject: eskrima: Head blows and Parkinsons (From bakayaru) OK, referring back to a previous thread on taking stick shots to head with helmets/fencing masks and boxing's blows to head leading to Parkinson's Disease - - ---> see I am not the only one thinking that repeated blows to the head will lead to Parkinson's as indirectly written by Cory by mentioning Ali as an example :-) Is it possible that it is a genetic disorder due to lack of serotonin _AND_ repeated head trauma? (End quote) Just to make sure that I didn't accidentally put my foot in my mouth here, I am NOT medically trained and don't know anything about Parkinson's... I do however know that repeated blows to the head are likely to have a detrimental effect on the brain's functions. Cory ============================================ Have you seen my garden? It is most peculiar, Nothing there that grows looks anything at all like plants, I hear their voices... -Danny Elfman, "Whole Day Off" ------------------------------ From: "David W. Fulton" Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 13:24:32 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Looking for FMA I'm trying to help a friend find an FMA teacher. He's located in Bristol, Va, which is in the south-western corner of the state, near Tennessee. He does have some FMA experience (mostly Inosanto blend). TIA. Dave Fulton dwf@computerpackages.com ------------------------------ From: Kalki Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 13:07:48 -0600 Subject: eskrima: Melanin and Carotene The Bible is the Bible. Belief is belief. I try my best to leave beliefs alone. I was taught that to erode someone's faith .... any faith, is a sin ... so I have great respect for all belief systems that guide people towards being better human beings. Not trying to erode any faith here, just trying to present physiological facts, so I quote: "The color of the skin is due to ... melanin. The amount of melanin varies the skin color from yellow to black. This pigment is found within the basale and spinosum layers and in the granulosum of all Caucasian people. In Negroes melanin is found in -all- epidermal layers ... protecting the body against radiation. Another pigment called carotene is found in the corneum and faty areas of the dermis in Oriental people. Together carotene and melanin account for the yellowish hue of their skin." Principles of Anatomy and Physiology Tortora & Anagnostakos Many med-related types out there will recognize the title/authors. This is the text that was used by the physio department at the University of Minnesota, Twin Cities. I recommend it for everyone's bookshelf. Good reading and very informative in the factual sense :-) Be well, Mik ------------------------------ From: Drew Zimba Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:22:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: PAMA >if you can make it out to Princeton, NJ >http://www.pamausa.com/silat.html Rick Tucci is a VERY competent practitioner of the systems of kali and silat he mentiones in his web page. His rating (personally, mind you) as an INSTRUCTOR, however, leaves much to be desired IMVHO! One example: He claims to instruct Bukti Negara, but not once in the four months of attending his silat classes did he EVER have us work on the sambuts. BN practitioners on the list, please correct me if I am wrong, but I am under the impression that the sambuts are an essential part of the beginning BN curriculum. They were designed into the curriculum by Pendekar Paul to teach proper body alignment, sensitivity and distancing. If they are left out, is it really BN instruction? It has been rumored that Mr. Tucci has been placed on the "in-active" list of instructors by Pendekar Paul for just this reason! Another example: I purchased a pair of Jeff Finder's synthetic sticks after beating up my "complimentary" pair provided by PAMA. The very first class I used them in I was harassed by Guro Tucci for using them. He said they would shatter and hurt someone. I showed him that he was mistaken by taking a full-power shot at a steel support post with no ill effect to the stick. He then told me that I would have to use some ragged community rattan until I brought my sticks back because I would not develop the proper "stick sensitivity" with Mr. Finders composites. Again, more experienced practitioners, please correct me if I am wrong, but in the Inosanto Blend (under which banner Mr. Tucci instructs), isn't it stressed that the stick is a training substitute for the blade? If so, then why does it matter if "stick sensitivity" is developed? Shouldn't we be looking for "blade sensitivity"??? Sorry to bitch and moan. I feel that your money would be better spent on private lessons from one of Mr. Tucci's assistant instructors (who really do all the teaching in class anyway, Tucci demos, he doesn't instruct). Just my personal views, Drew _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Drew Zimba Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:28:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: People Eating Tasty Animals >Ok, folks... Time to get chubby. No more diet stuff. >Take it to the PETA forum. That is People Eating >Tastie Animals... >:) >Ray Terry >raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Hey, if we wern't supposed to eat animals, then why are they made out of meat...;-) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Kalki Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 14:53:19 -0600 Subject: eskrima: Hernia Sorry for lack of response to a direct question ... I was trying to take a break :-) I don't remeber who asked us about hernia symptoms, but since there were a few responses I decided to defer ... but gotta follow-through... Inguinal hernia, been there. Symptoms? The bulging and travel of the nerniation can go a long way before you feel pain. In my own case I was steadily pursuing a habit of doing all kicks 100 times each everyday when I first noticed something odd. At first I thought nothing of the slight 'something' that went back to normal on its own, but as it progressed it got to the point where I'd be kicking and the sucker would pop out ... I'd pause, manually push it back in, and continue (crazy, eh?). I realized something was awry but felt no pain. I therefore did not rush to do anything about it. Some time passed and the "pop out" started to happen while biking ... yeeow, main, dat wuz PAINful!!! Quickly got myself scheduled for herniaplasty. 6 weeks to get back into training, 6 months to get back in shape. I'd waited too long. A friend got the same "treat" at about the same time and was back into the pool swimming like a dolphin the next week. he got treatment -immediately- on noticing the first signs. Perhaps you've done that already. Moral: Don't wait, get it repaired. The hernia can be inguinal or femoral. The inguinal can take one of two paths: oblique (follows the spermatic cord right into the scrotum I think) or direct (goes over the pubis and down into the scrotum). Better check those, it's been awhile and I can't find my pathology book :-) The femoral goes down into your leg into the femoral triangle area. Women can get the femoral variety during pregnancy. It's a mistake to think that only the exertion of work or athletic activity can cause herniations of these types. Suffice it to say that one should avoid constipation, keep the body well-hydrated, don't rush. High consumption of whole grains and other bran/fiber-rich foods help prevent these problems (don't need no psyllium pills ... people need that stuff because they consume too much of the wrong -stuff-). Sorry for saying something about diet there, but it's true. Applies to the hemorrhoidal arteries as well. Why include these comments? Because we can weaken structures in the body with one set of practices and set up the damage that can happen during other practices. So, say one weakens certain support structures as a result of various dietary/lifestyle practices then goes and slams something out there in the world somehow ... and right then something gives and there's a sharp, burning pain... It doesn't usually happen all at once, but rather after a gradual buildup by a seemingly unrelated process. Be well, Mik ------------------------------ From: Michael Koblic Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 07:45:17 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Head cases >OK, referring back to a previous thread on taking stick shots to head with >helmets/fencing masks and boxing's blows to head leading to Parkinson's >Disease I don't know about Parkinson's, but Dementia Pugilistica is a well described condition. Mike Koblic, Quesnel BC ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:54:19 -0800 Subject: [none] A Howl etc: Mik wrote: "Perhaps I should be satisfied to simply encourage the view of the scientist/Gnostic who wants to know, not just rest in belief." I take this to be an additional comment on top of his vigorous rejoinder to a sentence in my post in which I wrote "I believe" in the importance of the role of hunting in human evolution (ergo animal protein is part of our evolutionary history). I certainly share Mik's belief in the validity of the scientific method of thought, but I believe he is missing my point. I have read more than a little to the best of my IQ on the subject of evolution, human evolution, evolutionary psychology and related matters and continue to do so. And one thing I have come away with is that science, as is often the case, is not in accord in the matter of human nature or human diet. There are different positions. Thus, my use of the words "I believe" is not indicative of a thought process analogous to believing in the tooth fairy, but rather one of acknowledgement that there are other interpretations of the imperfect evidence in this area possible and that reasonable, scientific people might disagree. To not acknowledge this might come across as arrogant. I believe that this may have been what another poster may have had in mind. Woof, Crafty Dog ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:15:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: back to FMA... Come on folks... Back to FMA. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #89 *************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.