From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #97 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Fri, 5 March 1999 Vol 06 : Num 097 In this issue: eskrima: Largo Mano and Twirling - Not eskrima: Sinawali eskrima: warpage eskrima: Adrenaline eskrima: making Tiger Balm eskrima: phone calls from the RP eskrima: Bolo's, Barongs, etc. eskrima: Dog Brothers Martial Arts Association & eskrima: Re: Grappling eskrima: Re: AOL access - "Reality Check" eskrima: Mentals eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1050 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Al \"Got This Fish On The Move\" Sardinas" Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 12:19:10 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Largo Mano and Twirling - Not Recently Malian wrote: .... in largo mano, you come down and twirl your bolo inwards and out impacting with a tight grip at your windows center and following with the figure eight into angle two going out twirling outwardwards impacting at center with firm grip coming back up and stop and go to Modern Arnis's Stick form number two....." First of all I have to admit that although I studied Modern Arnis for about 6 months 22 years ago I don't understand what is really being mentioned here. But, from my knowledge of Largo Mano my thought is twirling and Largo Mano like oil and water don't mix. If I can twirl my weapon and make contact with my opponent this means that I am no longer in an effective Largo Mano range because twirling shortens the distance of contact thus making me an easier and closer target for my opponent. Respectfully, Al Sardinas Student of Garimot System of Arnis ------------------------------ From: Kalki Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 12:03:33 -0600 Subject: eskrima: Sinawali Mr. Lastra... Hope you didn't take any offense at my play on words, i.e., "seen-a-wally." Thanks for your informative post. Particularly reinforcing was ... > To > better know sinawali is to study the function and relationship of each > individual movement within it and how these relate to the other ways of > weapon movements. Then learn how to spontaneously apply these against > random angles of attack while maintaining total control. > ... this is the way that I've been viewing it but have yet to meet anyone who teaches or works with it this way. As a result, on my own I've used various segments of the 6-count (and the La Costa 8-count), for example, to train flowing from checking/striking or striking/checking to low-line kicking. Very, very useful approach. There are natural places for adding shin kicks with the sole of the foot (sipat?), pushing kicks with the heel, low-to-mid level roundhouse kicks, sweeps, etc. The side kick can also fit in but in my limited experience, not as readily as the others (takes more time/maneuvering than the others). IMHO sir, we would do well to hear more from you and others with this type of experience. In an Inosanto seminar that I attended back in '85 Guro Inosanto told us to "add the kick" into Sombrada (spelling?:-) More people would probably have better success at doing this if they had experience with working kicks into Sinawali so that the body patterns become natural, spontaneously flowing. Be well, Mik ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 10:22:37 -0800 Subject: eskrima: warpage >p.s. Crafty and Ron, now that I know a bit about knife making, I know why >the scabbards on those barongs don't fit. They fit in the Philippines but >the wood was fresh. Tropical hardwoods especially should be dried/cured >for about 3 yrs before worked otherwise they shrink, warp, etc. >Especially when going from the tropics to the desert (LA). Sorry. Same reason I was told in Mactan not to waste my money on the beautiful guitars made there. Warpage renders them unusable very quickly. Jeff "Stickman" Finder stickman@autobahn.org ------------------------------ From: Kalki Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 12:51:58 -0600 Subject: eskrima: Adrenaline > Since one of the psychological effects of adrenaline is the presence of > negative thoughts, > Not critiquing here firend, just curious ... how do you connect adrenaline with negative thoughts? I think I understand what you're getting at, but the psychological effects are not caused by adrenaline (epinephrine). The psy-effects/negative thoughts are related to the fear that caused the sympathetic nervous system to do its thing which causes the release of epinephrine/adrenaline and the potentially related fear of failure (no plan or plan unsure). The adrenaline/epinephrine - -intensifies and prolongs- whatever is already going on at this point. There rests the importance perhaps of "pre-event" conditioning. What we do with the initiating fear determines what we experience once the sympathetic nervous system does a grand discharge and tells the adrenals to dump some epi and norepi into the bloodstream because the fit is about to or has actually hit the shan. If we haven't got the mind on the right rails by then our internal fight may be more difficult to win, thereby jeopardizing our performance, whatever that might require. The experience of emotion is by definition a combination of mental and physiological changes. When epi heightens the effects of sympathetic discharge we're liable to interpret the physiological changes, along with the mental "stuff" as a far more heightened emotional state which will also exaggerate the mental aspect of emotion, i.e., the "affect.". In the brain, epi (adrenaline) makes us more alert and promotes learning. There may be some interleaving in there for sure, but alertness and more vivid experience of emotion and the potential jumping around typical of the psyche in an emergency situation may be more responsible for a lapse into negative perception of how things are gonna go. One of the highest forms of survival strategy vis-a-vis threat situations is being elsewhere (haul). That too may play a part in the experience of negative thoughts (save self) ... then the epi serves to help us to get to somewhere else :-) and feel positive about being there instead. Ah, pardon the noise. Sorry if this technical tendency of mine seems picky. I'm gonna change my ways in this posting thing (no mo'guarana) ... sum it up to say that we should step into the psych process before the adrenaline gets dumped into the blood because whether negative or positive it will push us further in the direction that we're going psychologically. Regular training and mental rehearsal can go a long way in this regard. Our armed forces and police forces should use more stuff like that, psych training that is ... dangerous as that might be (not for the trainees, for the society I'm thinkin'). Be well, Mik ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 11:03:22 -0800 Subject: eskrima: making Tiger Balm I found this link, might be of interest to those into making their own balms: http://www.aikidofaq.com/making.html For those who like to browse, there is a great free download oprogram called Webferret, which simultaneously accesses 11 search engines and categorizes the results. Best of it's kind I've found yet ... Jeff "Stickman" Finder stickman@autobahn.org ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 11:13:29 -0800 Subject: eskrima: phone calls from the RP For those living in the Philippines (or visiting there) you might want to check out this website: http://www.cebunet.com/ 10 cents a minute to call the USA! Jeff "Stickman" Finder stickman@autobahn.org ------------------------------ From: "David W. Fulton" Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 14:21:48 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Bolo's, Barongs, etc. At 12:03 PM 3/5/99 -0500, John Frankl wrote: > >Thanks for the url Dave--does anyone have Kris's? Since you mentioned >your not looking to display/collect I am assuming you want something to >use. My sense is that getting something from a custom maker here might be >a good way to go. > >You can base your design on any picture you like, choose the steel, >handle material, edge profile, etc. Also--Crafty will remember this >one--grip size if you have a hand larger than the average Philippine >Islander of 100 years ago, blade length, etc. If you want something to >bang with, antiques are not cheap. If you want a razor-sharp sword, >today's makers are awesome. Either way you win. Yes, I definitely want something functional. I was trying to find sources like Kris Cutlery and Visayan Legacy first though because I would think a custom blade would be a lot more expensive. And, Vedo wrote: >I'm not an expert on weaponry but,,, > >I have purchase a Kris Knife and Sword Set from Visayan Legacy and will so >in the future and I do recommend them for their product and Price their >speediness in delivering can't be beat, their Quality/$ in my book will do >all justice :-) > >I think (imho) you can't go wrong. Thanks for the feedback Vedo. I don't recall them having any knife & sword sets, or any knives at all for that matter, on the web site. Do you have a hard copy catalog, or did I miss some stuff on their web site? Do you have the specs on the blades you bought from them? I wrote them to find out about blade & handle lengths; types of woods & metals used and construction methods (ex. how blades are affixed to handles) but haven't heard back yet. Thanks again. Dave dwf@computerpackages.com ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 12:30:04 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Dog Brothers Martial Arts Association & A Howl of Greeting to All: A mere months behind schedule, I am delighted to announce the formation of the "Dog Brothers Martial Arts Association" (DBMAA). Info can be found on our website, which has just gone through a major revamping at the hands of Cindy, our VP in Charge of Reality. The March technique is up too. It is an example of the second of the 7 ranges of DBMA called "stick squared" and is an excerpt of a staff fight from the most recent Gathering. http://www.dogbrothers.com Woof, Guro Crafty ------------------------------ From: Lonnie Pollard Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:09:39 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Re: Grappling >A long long time and several posts ago, someone queried about Dumog. He >didn't get any answers, so I'm re-posting the issue. Are there any >materials out there that address this aspect of FMA? Just curious, are you looking for information about Dumog in particular, or are you open to other styles/types of Filipino Grappling? ------------------------------ From: "Jesse Greenawalt" Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 18:38:17 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Re: AOL access - "Reality Check" I am unfamiliar with the workings of AOL. Is it possible to access this material without being an AOL subscriber - perhaps via the web? jester - ----- Original Message ----- >If you have access to aol then I suggest checking out Mr.Quinn's >folder titled >Reality Check. He's a no nonsense guy with excellent >communication skills. >He'll break things down pretty good and thorough. Let him know I >sent ya. - - --Rafael-- ------------------------------ From: Michael Koblic Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 05:46:49 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Mentals >I'll second that Peyton's and Animal's books are well worth reading. Animal >wrote the forward to mine, so I guess I'd put it in the same catagory. :-) > >Alain Burrese Another of that ilk is "Deard or Alive" by Geoffrey Thompson, a British Martial Artist/Bouncer (Paladin Press). You can tell it's British as a whole chapter is devoted to headbutting! Good book all the same. Mike Koblic, Quesnel BC ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:37:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #97 *************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, directory pub/eskrima/digests. 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