From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #99 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Mon, 8 March 1999 Vol 06 : Num 099 In this issue: eskrima: Shisher (Allen) Inocalla eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #98 eskrima: warping wood eskrima: awareness of the opponents reach eskrima: Kris Cutlery eskrima: Siniwali Another Take eskrima: instructor eskrima: reality check eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1050 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve and Roberta" Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 14:11:42 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Shisher (Allen) Inocalla Does anybody on the list know the current whereabouts of Shisher (Allen) Inocalla ? Thanks, Steve Van Harn ------------------------------ From: John Frankl Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 14:52:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #98 > Jeff, > > You know that my kamagong sticks are just fine--away from Mindanao. > They have the limitations of natural wood, but they are otherwise just > fine. My beautiful guitar from Lilang's on Mactan is not warped. > There are woods suitable for export. Ebony is one of them. > > Ron Kamagung was the wood my handles and scabbards were made from and they warped. Not badly enough to notice in a stick perhaps, but enough to make tight fitting scabbards too tight. John ------------------------------ From: Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 12:03:50 -0800 Subject: eskrima: warping wood >You know that my kamagong sticks are just fine--away from Mindanao. >They have the limitations of natural wood, but they are otherwise just >fine. My beautiful guitar from Lilang's on Mactan is not warped. >There are woods suitable for export. Ebony is one of them. Even big heavy police batons can warp when left in hot cars. For the most part, we don't care if a big thick stick gets a slight bend; we probably don't even notice. On the other hand, guitars are thin pieces of wood glued together, so you got lucky yours didn't warp. Go into the back of any guitar shop and you can see dozens of guitars with warped necks and bodies made from temperate North American woods, let alone tropicals. As a former semi-pro guitarist, I know how fast these things can go bad ... Jeff "Stickman" Finder stickman@autobahn.org ------------------------------ From: Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 13:21:29 (PST) Subject: eskrima: awareness of the opponents reach Dale Hinton wrote: > From: "Virginia Martial Arts" > Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:48:04 -0500 > Subject: eskrima: bambooing >> Kevin wrote:<> Does anyone do any drills specifically to cultivate an awareness of >> the opponents reach? I hate to slip an opponents strike, only to >> take myself out of range. Maybe this comes only with sparring, but >> any shortcuts would be appreciated. Having seen Gat Puno Abon Baet, >> I would especially like to hear from the Garimot Gang..>> > Mike Zimmer's group from the Great White North does something cool > called bambooing. Like to jump in here Mike? The concept of "bambooing" is that we try to sway away from a blow and come back to the attack just as a bamboo plant would sway in the wind. The feet don't necessarily step much. that way, you can stay in range for your counter. This is the boxer's "snapback". In Germany, some of the Balintawak groups use the term "waving". I prefer the term swaying myself, since "bambooing" is not very good English. The boxers do very similar stuff with their slipping, bobbing, weaving, and snapback motions. I don't know if all boxing coaches use these terms, but this is what is used in the boxing books I own. For some pictures of two fat guys bobbing and weaving, Villasin Balintawak style, see my web article at http://www.islandnet.com/~gmzimmer/elements.htm In Villasin Balintawak, we do a number of drills that involve practicing evasion at close range. One drill that I do with my students is to strike at them slowly but continuously, with left hand or stick, from all angles, and force them to evade but not block. I try to get them to do it with minimal stepping, but use angulation of the torso, bending of the knees, twisting of the feet and torso, and ducking, to evade. I must emphasize that for a beginner, I move my stick at 1/5 (or less) the speed that I would for fighting. The idea is to learn to move the right way, the right amount, to judge distance, develop timing and rhythm. Stepping is permitted, but we try to slip and hit at the same time when possible. We have a few other drills for this, but I can't really describe them, you need to see them. Note that in Balintawak as I know it, the notion of triangles as an explanatory framework is not used. Also, I think that the "accent" we have for moving is a bit idiosyncratic compared to other Balintawak groups. This may be my instructor's personnel style, or it may have been Jose Villasin's approach in the late 1950s, early 1960s. In the final analysis, I can only speak for my sub-style. Regards, G. Michael Zimmer Vorticity Martial Arts and Villasin Balintawak Eskrima Association ------------------------------ From: Michael Koblic Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 05:50:57 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Kris Cutlery >I don't recall (Kris Cutlery) having any knife & sword >sets, or any knives at all for that matter, on the web site. Kris cutlery do cary a knife and a longer bladed weapon (?Bolo ?Parang ?sword) in a set called Espada y Daga. The bigger weapon weighs about a pound. BTW, my wife has a Gim from the Kris Cutlery, the wooden scabbard is so far OK. Mike Koblic, Quesnel BC ------------------------------ From: "L. E." Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 09:18:26 PST Subject: eskrima: Siniwali Another Take Hi to all: Just one more centavo to add to the perplexity. GM Ramiro Estalilla Jr. teaches a unique twist to the Sinawali by merging or blending with the opponents strikes. In an earlier post, Guro Denny had stated that Guro Inosanto had definitely seen something that they hadn't seen before. Amongst other things I assume that they were eluding to this? After playing this concept (one of the core's from Kabaroan) the Sinawali becomes more "active" (if I can use that term), in such that there become's one partner whose role it is to be a feeder and the trainee who responds accordingly (similar to focus mitt training). I guess one way to look at it would be kind of like an "active Mok Jong". What happens then with the Sinawali is that the pattern of symmetry becomes disrupted and assymetrical hitting takes place and you are forced to move unpatterned concentrating only on the strikes coming in either left or right hand whichever is available (sometimes using one hand to thwart several strikes). In doing so, you can bail out of the pattern or get back into a patterned response (part of the fun). If this sounds difficult to the trainer, it's also difficult for the feeder as well, being that the purpose of merging in Kabaroan will take his weapon "off line" making it more dificult to recover. This leads into "Chaos Sinawali" which is good too! Ultimately though the whole idea is to hit the opponent. That's what we look for to end Sinawali. I know... Say what? Sorry for the confusion. Maybe anyone else who've experienced this can give their perspectives much better than I. Mabuhay y'all, Lino Espejo ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: John Khan Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 21:57:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: instructor Looking for an instructor in Philadelphia,PA. Thank you,John kingzulukingflp@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Drew Zimba Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 06:47:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: reality check >>> If you have access to aol then I suggest checking out Mr.Quinn's folder titled Reality Check. He's a no nonsense guy with excellent communication skills. He'll break things down pretty good and thorough. Let him know I sent ya. - - --Rafael-- >>> Can you access this folder if you don't have AOL?? If so, how? Thanks! Drew _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? 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