From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #125 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sun, 28 March 1999 Vol 06 : Num 125 In this issue: eskrima: FMA footwork patterns eskrima: Re: challenge eskrima: Tire Dummy eskrima: Ted Lucaylucay Pocket Stick eskrima: Rock's Seminars eskrima: PAWMA demos eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #124 eskrima: are your posts being bounced back??? eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1050 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 15:37:19 -0800 Subject: eskrima: FMA footwork patterns > "I am aware of the silat footwork patterns that are used as diagrams for > training exercises. You dont fight this way, but they build sound body > mechanics. Do any filipino styles practice exercises other than the male and > female triangle?? I know there is other footwork, but do they draw patterns > and do formal patterns?? Would a filipino stylist use a saw tooth like Top > Dog, or like Pendekar de Thouars "sutut miring"???" The "saw-tooth" pattern you refer to is from Pekiti which is most definately a FMA. Pekiti has many patterns, of which I have learned but a few. If you think about it, taking the 45, 90, and 180 degree lines you can create many geometric patterns. Triangle, boxes, saw tooth, diamond, etc, all arise from various combinations. The Largusa-Villebraille system does use a circle pattern, actually a series of circles, to train various footwork patterns. The Perez-Lumbad system I studied used angles and circles. I am sure many other systems do also. Regards Michael > > > Just wondering, TCSNO@aol.com > > ------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 18:38:47 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: challenge In a message dated 3/27/99 5:33:00 PM, you wrote: <> Thanks for clearing this up again Tom! I didn't mean to disrespect the catch wrestler, I gave more credence to the post than it deserved. My fault. Now it seems that Gilbey's book created rumors which attempt to damage two men who certainly didn't deserve it. About Guro I. being challenged, I have seen him crank a hold when he needed to and I've also let seen him politely go through a technique someone was showing which he had already shown the seminar folks the day before. He did not attempt to make the guy look foolish but always there to see if anything new could be learned. - --Rafael-- ------------------------------ From: Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 20:46:23 EST Subject: eskrima: Tire Dummy < < Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 18:08:58 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Ted Lucaylucay Pocket Stick This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------9931EC0560A6FE9EF206069B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James Farthing wrote on, 27 Mar 1999 09:49:04 regarding eskrima: Ted Lucaylucay > > Sorry, but I don't have any of his videos to sell. > > What I would like to know however (thanks for reminding me) is, has > anybody seen his pocket/hand stick video? Is it something like the > Yawara (aka Kubotan)? What does it contain etc.? > I have Ted Lucaylucay's pocket stick video. It is well done. Ted was a very crisp, accurate technician, quite fast. His pocket stick work was, if I understood him, based on both FMA and Wing Chun. He did a lot of trapping and checking along with the strikes. It is not very much like Yawara in that regard, there is much more sensititivity training in the pocket stick than I ever saw in Yawara. But, the hitting is going to be similiar, there are not that many ways to hit. His pocket stick looks way more like Balintawak Eskrima than most of the other FMA styles I have see so far, a fact which I find quite curious. His sticking tends to be briefer than ours, and his blows more purcussive, on the average, but the techniques are very close to ours. Regards, G. 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This evening I went to see an exhibition put on by the Pacific Association of Women Martial Artists (PAWMA). Like any demo, some parts stood out more than others. The first performer was an excellent TKD stylist, but then you'd expect that from an Olympic medalist. Several other segments stood out in particular. One was by a Kenpo practitioner who did a decent kata & self defense segment with a metal fan, based on Rene Latosa's principles of Escrima. The next to last performer was a woman from the East Coast who did an interesting knife form from Indonesian kung-fu (they didn't say what style). There was a wonderful segment by two Bay Area Aikidoists and a Jujutsu teacher from Monterey (all 5th dan) that had some GREAT self defense that included live sword work. However, the most interesting part for me was a demonstration of naginata by two 7th dan women that included self-defense tactics against a sword (no joke there, partners! The sword got zip) and some full contact sparring. Not Dog Brothers perhaps, but those tiny middle aged Japanese women hit hard enough for me to hear clearly in the balconey. Not an art one sees everyday, and pretty impressive to see done so well. Jeff "Stickman" Finder stickman@autobahn.org ------------------------------ From: vikaroo Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:25:05 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #124 Greetings Digest Members; I just wanted to announce that Chief Dan Medina is hosting the 2nd Southwest Gathering of the Masters Martial Arts Camp '99. I don't know if any of you read about the one two years ago, but I attended and had a lot of fun. This year, the camp will feature clinics with Richard Bustillo, Guru- Jun Fan/JKD, Daniel Medina, Chief Instructor USA- Derobio Escrima, Al Delacruz, Professor- Chuan Fa, Melcor Chavez, Chief instructor U.S. Muay Thai Team, Frank Trujillo, Sigun- Thaiboka, Frank Rivera, Sifu- Hung Gar, Greg Jackson, Chief Instructor- Gaidojutsu and Doug Corpolonga, Sifu- Yang Tai-Chi. This will happen August 27th - 29th, 1999 here outside of Albuquerque, New Mexico at Singing Hills camp. Besides the clinics, there will be a ropes course, and there is an outdoor Olympic size swimming pool. If you want more information, you can contact me at this email address. You can also call the coordinators whose numbers are as follows: Dan Medina (505) 530-9360 or Frank Trujillo (505) 836-4946. Thanks for your attention. Respectfully, Vikki Melnick - --------------3F68976803673EAACC71BA9D Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [ 50 lines deleted. 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Vikki Melnick - --------------3F68976803673EAACC71BA9D-- ------------------------------ From: Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 10:25:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: are your posts being bounced back??? FYI... Are few people have mentioned that their posts to the list are getting bounced back with a 'user unknown'. - -IF- you notice a 'relay.orbs.org' mentioned in the bounced back e-mail header then your e-mail is being bounced back because of the following... (from my limited understanding of this stuff) Check out the site http://www.orbs.org It is an attempt to filter out SPAM. There are sites that allow anyone and everyone to route e-mail through their site. I believe this is called open routing and it is a bad thing, bad in the sense that anyone (i.e. a SPAMmer) can send out their (mostly) worthless e-mail. Sites that allow open routing get listed in the database maintained by www.orbs.org, businesses check incoming e-mail against that database, if it comes from a site listed in the database it is rejected. This does not mean that YOUR site is a site that permits spam. It means that your site is routing through a site that permits spam, perhaps w/o their knowledge. So, if you submit a post to the list and it is bounced back with a 'user unknown' look for a line in the header mentioning relay.orbs.org. If you see relay.orbs.org tell your postmaster (postmaster@your.domainname) to check out www.orbs.org and to please route through a site that does not permit open routing. A much better explanation can be found at http://www.orbs.org. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 10:26:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #125 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.