From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #143 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Thurs, 8 April 1999 Vol 06 : Num 143 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #142 eskrima: Liner locks eskrima: re The Combat Continum eskrima: Swords eskrima: Re: Spyderco Endura eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #142 eskrima: Khalid Khan? eskrima: Klingon, Romulans and Ferengi, oh my! eskrima: Lionheart eskrima: CSE website & sale eskrima: Brollys eskrima: Knives, knife carry/use laws n stuff eskrima: Re-Doggy help eskrima: Stress Training eskrima: umbrella eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #141 eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #142 eskrima: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #142 eskrima: Re: Matrix Reply eskrima: Fw: reflections of a rock eskrima: real time silat/kun tao Re: eskrima: Liner locks eskrima: . .......................................................................... 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Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Talmadge Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:54:15 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #142 > Just a short note to everyone owning Benchmade Ascents, formerly > Eclipses: recently, there was quite a few reliable reports in the knife > industry about the blades suffering lock failure, and closing. The > problem was with the mid-sized model, number 830, i believe. Check by > holding the knife edge up, and rapping the blade spine a few timeson a > table or something hard. You probably want to wear gloves. Joe S., It was the larger model only, the 840. No one was able to get the mid- or small-size to fail. Benchmade has since put in stiffer springs, so newer versions should not fail. I've never actually liked the 840, the ergonomics turned out really strange. The 830 and 820 fit my hand better. cheers, Joe Talmadge jat@cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Michael Koblic Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:51:08 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Liner locks >Re Spydercos, I used to only carry Enduras and Delicas. However now I try >to carry only liner lock knives (or roller lock). If you grip a Delica or >Endura hard enough and just right you will unlock the blade. After it happened >to me once I never carried my Endura again... > >Ray Terry I think you have just opened a major can of worms. Last time this was discussed on the rec.knives those that seem to know better than I felt that liner locks are more prone to accidental unlocking than lock-backs (NB Cold Steel does not do many liner-locks). The new locks (rolling lock of REKAT, Axis lock of benchmade, Body Lock of Chris Reeve's Sebenza) may be the way to go. No doubt we are in for a deluge of posts on the topic. (Me? If I cannot run away, use a fixed blade.) Mike Koblic, Quesnel BC ------------------------------ From: "JYCHOW.AU.ORACLE.COM" Date: 08 Apr 99 08:55:34 +1000 Subject: eskrima: re The Combat Continum Tom, I may be out of line here, but I hope and pray that not only I, but all my students, and those after them as well, will never be given the oppotunity to use the art for fighting and wars. I am not spiritual nor religious, but there are perhaps some repercussions for hurting others. I would certainly not qibble about exerting my right of defence in a peaceful and cordial manner, but wars, mercenaries, secret police etc are dicy to me. I turned down an offer to teach the Special Forces years ago because I can not trust such groups to be self defence type of people. I fear my Creator = too! And I fear the karmic repercussions even more. In fact, I have changed my Kali Illustrisimo to being stick-based instead of the original blade-based after encountering a few blood-thirsty students. And I have inserted a prayer for common safety and happiness of all to be recited at each class to instil the training that they will never = abuse the art, not cheat themselves that they are not abusing it (yes, don't we have all sorts of ways to justify our opinions?). Personally, I fear the repercussions of even indirectly being the cause of some unfortunate incidents. I feel this acutely. Maybe I am too sensitive. I have heard of people who came back from comas reporting all the very minor and indirect inflictions incurred. eg. Somebody whose only involvement was working in the store in USA, packing the bullets that American GIs used = in Vietnam. He could feel the pain of each bullet penetrating the enemy. His 'conscience' seem to remember such minor things at death. It seems that our subconscious and spirit is very much more far-reaching than we think. I do not mean I lower the standard of the art. I just changed the emphasis = to train students to be worthy and peaceful citizens of the world. My wish = is to change blood-thirsty students to happy peaceful ones. I channel their unhappiness, frustrations and aggression to martial arts activity with proper guidance and direction in order to change their mind-set. However, 'each to his/her own'.......... You have to find your own conscience and your own path. You may slam me........for speaking out etc. It is okay. Cheers! John Chow ------------------------------ From: Michael Koblic Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 18:32:59 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Swords >From Animal > >Try a sword. A quick trip to a local gunshow can usually net you a 440 >stainless Katana for a reasonable price. With due respect and deference: Having recently researched a sword purchase I am under the impression that a *stainless* steel for a sword is a bad idea. One should aim for a carbon steel (1050, 1095) if one wants a "using sword". For details www.swordforum.com BTW, I like the idea of a 4ft Assegai (from Cold Steel) it has a 12 inch blade and after a few drills I have the impression that one can use it at a "largo mano" range or close up (where 26 inch katana may not work as well) - just my 2 kopecks, I hope I never have to find out for real. Mike Koblic, Quesnel BC ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:40:23 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Spyderco Endura I carry the Spyderco Endura II or the CRK&T Apache II. The Endura II is the all steel version of the Endura, which is a good choice if you want to use it for pommel strikes because of the extra weight. The Apache II is a bit smaller with a 3 1/4" ATS-34 blade. I prefer folding knives that can be opened with one hand, have a plain edge(or a combination serrated/plain edge), and are useful for utility and self defense. Good knife catalogs: www.fe3stone.com www.abc-direct.com www.cutleryshoppe.com ____________________ Kelvin Williams kel620@aol.com Modern Arnis Student ------------------------------ From: Mike Casto Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #142 Jeff Finder wrote: << >I, however, personally prefer the synthetic clip. Until recently, I did too. However, a couple of months ago I was walking through a doorway with my Endura in my front right pocket, and the clip snagged the metal latch liner in the door jamb and snapped off. Now my clipit doesn't clip no mo'. A metal one can be replaced or bent back into shape. >> As I understand it, if you send your knife to Spyderco, they will replace it for free ... with the new version of the knife which has a metal clip. Mike === Mike Casto Assistant Instructor Asian Fighting Arts Filipino Kali/ 5099 Springboro Pike Indonesian Pentjak Silat Dayton, OH 45439 Phone: (937) 293-5520 URL: http://www.guild-hall.com/afa/ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: " " Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 19:15:45 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Khalid Khan? Out in Usenet, I saw a message advertising a 2-hour video by one ``Khalid Khan'' in Karachi, Pakistan. It is claimed he trained under Grandmaster (Angel) Cabales between 1987 and 1991. Does anyone know this fellow? I am curious because the posting recommended learning "Serrada" via this videotape over training with an actual instructor. Curious recommendation, and one I fully disagree with. - --- Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. -- John Kenneth Galbraith - -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums ------------------------------ From: tenrec Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 04:24:05 +0100 Subject: eskrima: Klingon, Romulans and Ferengi, oh my! Someone wrote: >Klingons were Mongols. I thought the Romulans who were based on the >Japanese culture I thought the Romulans were patterned after the Romans... tenrec tenrec@avcorner ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:42:24 EDT Subject: eskrima: Lionheart Does anyone know the website and/or address for this company(Lionheart)? They sell stickfighting products on the east coast. Thanks, Kelvin Williams kel620@aol.com ------------------------------ From: "C. Herrman" Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:58:45 -0400 Subject: eskrima: CSE website & sale Hello, Just wanted to let everyone know that the Cabales Serrada Escrima website developed on behalf of Master JC Cabiero has a new home. It is now located at: http://userzweb.lightspeed.net/serrada7 Please forgive the Sale Announcement which follows. I think some of you may be interested - apologies to those who aren't. - ----- To celebrate spring, Escrimador Master JC Cabiero has decided to offer an amazing special on all CSE International merchandise. All orders placed by May 31, 1999* will be discounted 50% OFF THE REGULAR PRICE!!! (*While supplies last!) This includes all books, videos & apparel. Whether you are a student of Cabales-Serrada Escrima, or just interested in expanding your library of Filipino Martial Arts knowledge, this special offer should not be missed. Books: B1.) The Pure Art of Cabales Serrada Escrima regularly: $29.95 sale: $14.95 Videos: V1.) The Foundation length: 37 min. regularly: $34.95 sale: $17.45 V2.) The Nucleus length: 36 min. regularly: $39.95 sale: $19.95 V3.) Segment 1 - Basic Level 5 length: 40 min. regularly: $29.95 sale: $14.95 V4.) Segment 2 - Basic Level 8 length: 35 min. regularly: $29.95 sale: $14.95 V5.) Segment 3 - Basic Level 12 length: 35 min. regularly: $29.95 sale: $14.95 Apparel: A1.) CSE Short Sleeve Shirt color: gold regularly: $19.95 sale: $9.95 A2.) CSE Long Sleeve Shirt color: black regularly: $25.95 sale: $12.95 A3.) CSE Sweat Pants color: dark blue regularly: $25.95 sale: $12.95 A4.) CSE Cotton Jacket color: gray w/ black sleeves regularly: $59.95 sale: $29.95 Please visit the CSE website at http://userzweb.lightspeed.net/serrada7 for a more detailed description of each product. The website also contains information on the history of Cabales Serrada Escrima, Feliscimo Dizon, Grandmaster Angel Cabales, and Master JC Cabiero. Shipping and Handling: Add - $4.00 per item (United States) $6.00 per item (Canada) $12.00 per item (Overseas) *California residents add 8.25% sales tax. Make checks payable to: CSE International 5441 N. Sunrise Ave. Fresno, CA 93722 ?'s about the sale should be directed to: serrada7@lightspeed.net Thanks for your time and sorry for the long post. "This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or random as a blaster. An elegant weapon for a more civilized age." - Obi Wan Kenobi - ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:55:20 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Brollys >does anyone know of a resource for umbrellas designed to tolerate >combat conditions? That is, perhaps an umbrella with a particularly heavy >and resilient frame which could be more readily used as an impact weapon, >kali-style, and not just a hook/poker? I've had an umbrella for many years now that I particularly like. Rather than one of those skinny, easily broken metal rods, this one has a rattan center with a curved handle. Of course, the nylon and the little spines that support it still absorb a lot of energy (I still can't figure out how some of those Brits get theirs rolled so TIGHT), but it feels much stronger than your run-of-the-mill metal umbrella. Can't recall where I got it, or if it's still being made; I probably found it in a department store. FWIW, I still think it would do more damage with a thrust than a slash. "Doing a job RIGHT the first time gets the job done. Doing the job WRONG fourteen times gives you job security." Jeff "Stickman" Finder stickman@autobahn.org ------------------------------ From: tenrec Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 05:08:00 +0100 Subject: eskrima: Knives, knife carry/use laws n stuff Mr. Terry (idol!) wrote >If you grip a Delica or Endura hard enough and just right you will >unlock the blade. This happens (a lot) with the SOG Auto Clip I have...probably because the sideplates are of a "too deformable" synthetic material. O ja, the "auto-clip" feature also gave out too quickly. On carrying knives and use: A couple of legal questions: 1. Blade length: Some cities don't allow knife blades over a specified length. If you were caught, would you automatically be charged with carrying a deadly weapon? 2. Blade carry: Is carrying a "legal-length" knife concealed illegal? 3. On using the knife: Is it legal to use a knife for self-defense, and under what circumstances? (For example: Defending oneself against multiple unarmed attackers, defending oneself against a single attacker wielding a blunt instrument, etc.) I understand that the specifics vary from city to city, but all responses are welcome, particularly from LEOs out there. (If these were covered/answered in earlier EDs, if someone could perhaps point me to them.) On home defense: Depending upon your particular city's laws on home defense, and I suppose if you don't want to use a shotgun, a crossbow might be a quieter solution...don't laugh, I know someone who keeps one for home defense. Otherwise, a bolo would probably do... tenrec tenrec@avcorner.com ------------------------------ From: Rocky Pasiwk Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 00:16:38 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Re-Doggy help > All answers should go directly to Rock via private e-mail. > Sorry Ray I actually meant to mention that at the end of my post, but forgot, you know me, typing spell and thinking all at once, I need a nap!!!! Rocky ------------------------------ From: "G. Michael Zimmer" Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 21:45:10 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Stress Training For those interested in the effects of stress on learning and performance, I would recommend a book by Bruce K. Siddle. For on-line purchase, try http://www.calibrepress-catalog.com/index.cfm . Here is some of the information quoted from the Calibre Press web site. I thought that the book was well worth the price of $19.95. "Sharpening the Warrior's Edge: Psychology & Science of Training" by Bruce K. Siddle. "Maximum your reaction time, visual perception and combat performance to defeat attacks­and survive with the peak performance-enhancing lessons shared in Sharpening the Warrior's Edge." "Sharpening the Warrior's Edge is the first text which examines survival and combat performance from a scientific perspective. Author Bruce K. Siddle methodically brings together one hundred years of research which identifies the relationship between survival stress, the heart rate and combat performance." ... " ... why combat performance and reaction time deteriorates under the effects of survival stress why and how perceptual and visual narrowing occurs during combat an insight into Survival Stress Management techniques designed for combat how to develop a training methodology which combines educational psychology, neurobiology, principles of learning and motor learning research. " "Most importantly, Sharpening the Warrior's Edge explores the psychological and spiritual components which establish the warrior mind-set. This pioneering text is a must read for "modern warriors"-you professionals who must be ready to face a combative situation on- and off-duty." ... "Bruce K. Siddle is an internationally recognized authority on use of force training and the effects of survival stress on combat performance. As the Executive Director of PPCT Management Systems, Sidle has trained thousands of criminal justice use of force instructors, as well as specialized units within the U.S. Department of State, Federal Bureau of Investigation, U.S. Secret Service, Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, Federal Law Enforcement Training Center and special operations units within the U.S. Army and U.S. Navy." Regards, G. Michael Zimmer Villasin Balintawak Eskrima http://www.islandnet.com/~gmzimmer/vorticit.htm ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:44:28 EDT Subject: eskrima: umbrella << I thought I'd give it a shot -- does anyone know of a resource for umbrellas designed to tolerate combat conditions? That is, perhaps an umbrella with a particularly heavy and resilient frame which could be more readily used as an impact weapon, kali-style, and not just a hook/poker? >> An umbrella got me out of a fix once, a few years ago. I don't have any special made umbrellas, but the one I had collapsed into a smaller size. I like these better, since if one is liable to use it like I did, it is probably raining and the umbrella has already accumulated lots of water and resistance. A large umbrella seems to have all that material flailing about- like you're under water. The small one I had gave me the opprtunity to collapse it really fast while the psycho was babbling bout how he was gonna kill so and so in such and such a manner and by the time he realized my umbrella was wrapped up and good to go - it was too late. Oh, pick one with a good punyo surface and tip too. - --Rafael-- ------------------------------ From: "Tim Kashino" Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:42:05 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #141 - ---"Somebody" (Sorry,I don't recall who. Hope you aren't skighted) wrote------------------ >unique that they are well known to most who study the >history. That is not enough reason to justify the >weight of carrying a short sword around if it's >only use is fighting. If that is it's only purpose the weight is better off being used for more ammo, grenades, water, or a pistol.> I do argee on the weight thing. Humpin' an 80 pound rucksack and an individual or crew served weapon system is bad enough without any other "non-essential" (I'm lacking a better term here) crap. - ----Paul Martin wrote--------- >Good comment about the weight going to ammo and supply >over steel. I disagree with the idea that hand to >hand is rare on the modern battle field. It is not >preferable, but consider the history of Vietnam and >the Republic of Korea troops that have reportedly >killed VC and NVA offensive troops with their bare >hands. True, but this was mainly because they ran out of ammo and their only other option (besides being killed or captured) was to close with the enemy and kill them with whatver they could use. >There are many instances in the modern battle arena >that don't involve American forces that go to CQB >range rather quickly. Like I said it is not >preferable, but it is also not out dated as a reality. Does anyone remember Somalia? This was another case of some of our boys running out of ammo and running out of options. >Consider too, the idea that American military doctrine >is changing gears to prepare for more urban combat >environments over open field combat. This is >because of the effectiveness of manuever warfare which >focuses on taking out key targets instead of going toe >to toe in a "stand up" fight. This kind of battle >environment means very close contact and rapid >engagements. Check out Richard Marcinko's S.O.S. >Temporaries advertising video and you will see >the CQB training incorporated into the room entries >and close contact. Nicely put, Paul. However, the bottom line is that it happens more often than historical records show, and when it does it's mainly a matter of neccessity rather than choice. Tim Kashino Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ From: "Tim Kashino" Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 23:05:23 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #142 - -- I'll drop this subject after this Ray, I promise. While I am known by my associates for carring more than a few blades for whatever reason, a soldier who is not versed in knife combat would be better served by using his rifle to bludgeon the enemy rather than using a knife. Hand to hand combative methods are often neglected by our (US) modern military forces; even in the realm of special operations. My final comment on the subject is that it is better to have a tool (blade) and not need it than to need it and not have it. Like Cecil said, a blade is an itegral part of a soldiers equipment. Choosing a carry blade for the field should be based upon three things: 1. It's size. Large enough to kill, but small enough not to snag on things around you. Weight may be a factor, but the extra weight from a carry blade is next to nothing compareed to the weight of a soldier's gear. 2. "Utilitarian" design: a soldier's knife is a tool as well as a weapon. 3. The soldier's familiarity with blade combatives. 'Nuff said there. Tim Kashino Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ From: Sunny Graff <105605.2047@compuserve.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 03:54:00 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #142 Could anyone recommend any videos dealing with training with wooden dummies? Please let me know where I can order them. I=B4ve only seen one advertised from Paul Vunack. Does anyone know if it=B4s any good? Thanks= ------------------------------ From: "Robert Masson" Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 04:25:53 PDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Matrix Reply << I was wondering if anyone else on the list has scene "The Matrix" and would like to comment on the fight scenes. I'd like to know what better experienced ma's have to say about them. Thanks for your time. >> Hello List REaders! Well I seen The Matrix recently and was VERY impressed by it's story- line, it's special effects and yes the visual treat that were it's fight scenes. Thye were spectacular to watch and very cimematic.. Much like the clasic "Hong Kong" Movies with lots of intricate hand traps and perfect locks and singular punches.. Beautiful to watch.. And my hat is off to the performers.. obviously some very skilled MA's did that.. But it is cheorographed.. Just like doing Box Sumbrada is essentially a cheorography of movements.. It's looks amazing to watch but the rules are defined and you know what to expect largly.. So when people ask me how eral "Kung Fu" Movies are I say that each move is real.. But in reality you would never get to see them all so nicely strung together.. Nature (and Reality) has a different esthetic... So folks.. Go out and see the Movie (It's a GREAT Film!) Be wowed by the moves... Hell.. go and rent a Jackie Chan film afterwards too... It's great inspiration... But don't be too disappointed if things don't work out just perfectly next time you are sparring.. *wink* Gotta go to work al.. Have a great one! Rob Masson Boston, MA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:23:03 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Fw: reflections of a rock A Howl of Greeting to All: On a more reflective note, Rocky wrote: "Any ways all this ranting about various gods, has got me thinking about, a few things that were mentioned and since their (sic) are a number of us who make part of our living doing seminars, it got my melon thinking. I know Danny I. has some get (sic) reasoning behind his theory of teaching with the stop watch and all, ( if he still does that ) and I know of a few others who like to bombard the customers at seminars, with a tone (sic) of stuff, so they get their fill, or maybe to keep them coming back, or I have heard and I do believe that it works sometimes that if you get a lot of stuff thrown at you, some of it gets locked away in your memory banks, and a few months later when you re-learn it, it just sort of falls in place. So I was wondering what others' plan when they do a seminar, I personally try to get a feel for how and what kind of martial artist have shown up, and while I like to give them enough for their money, I also like to make sure that everyone gets at least a few of my things down good so they can take them home and add them to their arsenal, , , , . Any ways I was just wondering how others do it , , , " On the stop watch, I think it may be as simple as he has a lesson plan for the day and the seminar as a whole and has an idea as to how much time he wishes to invest in a certain block of material. The art of teaching seminars is an interesting one. Guro I. usually is in front of large, unusually diverse groups in terms of both interests and skills and he tries to teach so that there is something for everyone and so that for those ready to absorb it that there is a larger, deeper lesson in addition to accumulating sundry techniques. In my case the groups are usually quite a bit smaller ;-). In my early seminars I leaned towards working people on what I perceived them as needing first. In most cases this is Power and Footwork basics. And in most cases, people don't understand what it is to really focus and groove on something. Thus, I would start out making them do rounds of the basic power swings, left and right-- the idea being "This is how you need to really train in order to OWN the material." But I noticed a couple of things. One, a lot of people don't want to hear they can't hit hard enough to hurt a poodle and that their footwork is seriously Caucasian. Two, a lot of people don't want to learn that what they need involves work. They would rather learn to flash a twiggy stick and bitchin' disarms. Three, a lot of people don't like working their other hand-- in great part they suck at it and it messes with their ego to look bad in front of other people and/or themselves. And four, they tend to assume that that is all I/the Dog Brothers/DBMA/real contact stickfighting are about. I feel I owe it as a teacher to not pander and to teach what needs to be learned. There is an important lesson in making someone who has never done rounds working on their primal swing while paying attention to the details of good mechanics to do so. But I have also come to appreciate that it is important to give more of a sense of where all of these basics are headed at the higher level- indeed, that there is a higher level-- many people seem to think that in application that there isn't. Best of all is to show a simple version of a drill and a more advanced version so that people can work at the level of which they are capable. Also I now try to have a clearer sense of pacing between the physical and the technical. For example, the technical may often best come after lunch, when people are still digesting. There's much more, but the dog is looking at me cross-eyed. Its time for his walk. Hope this helps Rock. Woof, Guro Crafty > > PS: Good luck with the surgery whatever it is. ------------------------------ From: Drew Zimba Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: real time silat/kun tao From the news headlines I've been seeing, it looks like there is rioting and religo-ethnic violence in parts of Indonesia again. Has anyone seen any video clips of honest-and-for-true clashes where the indigenous fighting styles have been employed? Drew _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: eskrima: Liner locks > >Re Spydercos, I used to only carry Enduras and Delicas. However now I try > >to carry only liner lock knives (or roller lock). If you grip a Delica or > >Endura hard enough and just right you will unlock the blade. After it happened > >to me once I never carried my Endura again... > > > >Ray Terry > > I think you have just opened a major can of worms. > Last time this was discussed on the rec.knives those that seem to know > better than I felt that liner locks are more prone to accidental unlocking > than lock-backs (NB Cold Steel does not do many liner-locks). > > The new locks (rolling lock of REKAT, Axis lock of benchmade, Body Lock of > Chris Reeve's Sebenza) may be the way to go. I have heard of liner locks failing, but never seen it myself. I have personally failed several lock-backs, a couple of times without even trying. I hear that roller locks are excellent. Mr. Talmadge, you wanna jump in here? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #143 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.