From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #159 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Fri, 16 April 1999 Vol 06 : Num 159 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #157 eskrima: Another interpretation eskrima: list eskrima: Rebrotherhood eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #158 eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #158 eskrima: multiple responses eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1050 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:55:55 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #157 Ray, This is your list......... and it also carries my name Inayan Eskrima. AND UNLESS YOU HEAR OTHERWISE FROM ME PERSONALLY - I FULLY SUPPORT YOUR DECISIONS. Anyone not liking what you do or how you run this list can and should go elswhere. Suro Mike Inay ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:57:10 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Another interpretation A Howl etc: In the context of a thread about being able to play, Al wrote: "I know I may get flamed on this but I went to my 1st Filipino Arnis tournament in 1980 (maybe early 1981). It was held at the United Nations. I remember Tom Bisio and Akmed (sp.?) fighting each other and I think Tom won. Back then Akmed was one of the most impressive Arnis practitioners I had ever seen. Anyway getting back to the subject, Tuhon Gaje "played" with Guro Inosanto at the end of the event. The sparring was most impressive and in my analysis, Tuhon Gaje was the better of the two that day." At the risk of sounding a bit like "my teacher never loses", I would like to point out that Tuhon Gaje is a teacher to Guro Inosanto in Pekiti Tirsia and if I remember the story correctly it was a PT tournament. Thus, and all those who know Guro I. will agree I think, for Guro I. to try to win against his teacher at his teacher's demo would be totally contrary to character. Indeed, I think it speaks very highly of his character to engage in this "play" when those in the audience may be drawing conclusions as to who was better. Woof, Crafty PS: On another front, just today life has given me yet another lesson on how ready some people are to misinterpret things. Thus, allow me to point out that I have the highest regards for Tuhon Gaje as a fighter as well as a teacher. When we had a friendly spar in Bacolod, he lit me up, laughing hysterically the whole time-- a wonderful experience. ------------------------------ From: "Grantham, Stephen" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:01:49 -0700 Subject: eskrima: list I don't always agree with Ray's decisions on the list, but I defer to his right to make those decisions because it is his time and dedication which gives me much information and leads and ideas. I don't know the history between him and Jeff, but I defer to his judgement. If he feels this is the best way to cool things off, so be it. You have my support Ray. Steve Grantham sgrantham@microage.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:39:59 EDT Subject: eskrima: Rebrotherhood In a message dated 4/14/99 11:53:26 AM, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << The Brotherhood of FMA's? >> Filipinos historically fought one another even when they were fighting a larger threat. To see their predominantly American based online students act as the forefathers is to be expected. How pinoy!... the old manongs would be smiling right now..heh. - --Rafael-- ------------------------------ From: Christopher A Quitevis Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:26:45 -1000 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #158 > ------------------------------ > > From: "Eric Van Skike" > Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:22:13 PDT > Subject: eskrima: Matrix Fight scenes/ > > Would people be intersted in me putting up video clips of the major > fight scenes in the matrix neo/morpheus -vs- agent/neo -vs- agent(s). > How'd you get the clips anyhow? You're talking about the movie right? From a MA point of view is it worth watching? Looks interesting but not too sure..... ------------------------------ From: Jesse Manibusan Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 02:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #158 - --- eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com wrote: > From: > Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:55:58 EDT > Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #133 > > < take care of them > is to humblely and geekily pretend stupidity. >> > > Sadly, seminars allways seem to bring out the hot shots. > (One reason to bring > a partner with you.) some of your schoolmates in Eskrima class qualify as these "dicks". They hit your hands hard, look at your girlfriend as she's patiently waiting for class to end so she can take you home, and they go full force when maestro is watching. These idiots couldn't even defend themselves in a real fight. I am about tostart training in a new BJJ/Muay Thai dojo after not training in Myah Thai for almost 5 years (I think) and when I go in, I am just going to play dumb and start from scratch. Believe it or not, I am actually looking forward to doing basic techniques that beginners do rather than moving on to advanced techniques I used to do before. I thnk because I am wiser now and my body is 5 years older, I can handle having ot be patient with basic techniques without the urge to blow my back out with those damn Muay Thai kicks/knees. ANyone have any thoughts on re-starting training after a long break? Mindset? Maturity level? Body re-conditioning? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Patrick Davies Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:52:08 +0100 Subject: eskrima: multiple responses Why does the boxer do roadwork? After all he doesn't win by running but by punching. Why skip? The wind and athleticism gained by such activities allows him to be in better shape and therefore be able to compete by having the right attributes. Soccer players kick a ball repetitively on one foot not allowing it to touch the floor. This isnt used in a game but develops the co-ordination and feel necessary to perform at your best. Why train to do a jab cross if the jab will knock him out? Used to work with a bloke that called his right hand "switch" as it turned their lights off. Then he met this bloke who didn't go down and he got dimmed ; ) What happens if that first response doesn't knock them out, doesn't stop them, doesn't even phase them? Of course the training is to learn how to deliver a solid hit but what if you miss? That must be part of anyones training program the miss. Familiarity to reality I call it. By training multiple responses you load the memory banks in my opinion. You shouldn't be thinking "oh he's feeding a whatsitcalled" because by then its too late. You should be reacting by instinct developed by repetition. If the first one fells them then great but if not the opening of the window is allowing the next shot in and so on. The difference between the art and reality training? Depends what you train in but there is stuff which is dead flowery which makes my training interesting but also develops footwork which, as I cant do it now, will become second nature in a few years time thus becoming one with real life training. Its creating the rigt attributes for being more proficient in kicking ass. Pat Aberdeen Martial Arts Group, UK From: Michael Koblic > I do not wish to enrage anybody further but perhaps somebody (Guro Crafty?) could explain to this martial hack (artist is too strong a word) the following: What is the purpose of learning multiple responses to a single attack? I understand that in a stressful situation it is better to rely on one or two of instinctive responses rather than freeze while selecting the most appropriate of a dozen or so counters. Watching the DB1 tapes set responses to an attack are never mentioned. Is this a difference between the Art and the practical application? Is this something one only appreciates as one reaches the very top of the art? Mike Koblic, Quesnel BC pat * Phone: +44 (0) 1224 795314 * Mobile: 0410 401111 * Smtp: Patrick.Davies@Halliburton.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #159 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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