From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #177 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Mon, 26 April 1999 Vol 06 : Num 177 In this issue: eskrima: Fw: Returned mail: Service unavailable (fwd) eskrima: Re: TKD eskrima: attacked by people on horses eskrima: The Effectiveness of the Garimot System eskrima: Seminar in Syracuse eskrima: complete systems eskrima: bummer eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1050+ members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Fw: Returned mail: Service unavailable (fwd) > <<< 554 Service unavailable; [207.217.120.18] blocked using relays.orbs.org > 554 ... Service unavailable This got bounced back so I'm trying again. > A Howl etc: > > Someone, sorry I forget who, recently posted a question about self > chiro-type "adjustments" and chiropractors etc. I said nothing, thinking > that some of the more qualified than I on the Digest would speak up, but > they haven't and I do have, how rare! an opinion in this regard. > > I too have done what you describe for years (some serious injuries along > the way) and recognize your description of relief from these > self-adjustments. This is what I can offer you: There is probably some > misalignment somewhere-- probably NOT where you are doing these > self-adjustments. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT POINT. A good chiro (and not all > are good) can help. IF the problem keeps recurring (which is what the case > was for me) you may need to go to bodywork. In Los Angeles, we are blessed > with an abundance of bodyworkers-- but I know that in most parts of the US > this is not the case. It may take a while (and $) to find the approaches and > practitioners that work best for you. The idea of the muscular skeletal system that guides me is to see it as a system of tensegrity (look it up-- I don't know how to define it-- only how to use it!). If something keeps needing adjustment it means something in your muscles, your posture, is pulling it out of > alignment. The extraordinary amount of sitting done in modern life can be > a powerful contributor to problems. (shortened ilio-psoas, quads, hams, > quadratus lumborum etc) But all the bodywork and the adjustments are only > supplements to the work you must do on your own. > > In my case, I lift weights, but not as a bodybuilder-- rather with one of > the principal purposes of creating good posture. How I combine exercises > as well as which exercises I regard as very important. Stretching is very > important. In my case, I use the "Iso-max" stretching strap (it holds you > in a perfect straddle stretch) while I read my daily three newspapers (WSJ, > LA Times, and Daily Breeze for those who want to know ;-} ) Thus my > hamstrings and calves really get to let go slow and deep. And between > sections of the paper or in moments of reflection over something I've read > I'll reach over to one leg or the other to get the Quadratus lumborum as > well. To conclude I'll go in to Sphinx/Cobra for the ilio-psoas bringing > the heels towards the butt for the peak contraction/extension of the hamstring, > especially the head that crosses the hip joint. Peak > contraction of opposing muscles triggers release mechanisms of the target > muscles- in this case the ilio psoas/quads. I mention these details not because my routine is special, butrather to indicate how it needs to integrate into your life so you actually get around to doing it consistently. > (in my case the time would be spent reading the newspapers anyway) and to > share what I regard as the key points to hit. If you have access to good > yoga (not mushy-mushy-flop-on-the-floor yoga) this can be real good too-- > balance of strength and flexibility. > > Ultimately you must find what works for you-- my thought would be that > what you describe however is a sign to begin looking for what causes what > you describe and to clean it up. Remember, "Symptoms and their causes > are usually in different places" (sayeth the Crafty Dog-- please credit if you > use it) A well aligned muscular-skeletal system functions better and lasts longer. > > Woof, > Crafty Dog ------------------------------ From: Terry Tippie Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:07:06 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Re: TKD When I lived in Seattle I good friend of mine is an olympic TKD competitor (ex. Korean team). I liked sparring with him because I wanted to familiarize myself TKD lines of attack and timing, which is much different than what I was doing. He wanted to do the same for the boxing/Muay Thai rooted stuff I was doing. We soon found we could learn to read the other guy well enough to make it much tougher for the other person. I also got to learn all the TKD re-counters to my Muay Thai counters to his moves. That was fun, friendly competition that we both benefitted from. I am grateful to the art of TKD for sending me many students over the years. I always liked the fact that the TKD schools I have seen seem to have discipline and respect as a basic part of their programs. Regards, Terry Tippie ------------------------------ From: "Richard Killick" Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:08:46 +0100 Subject: eskrima: attacked by people on horses <... You just never know when you'll be attacked by someone on horseback. :) > As I was getting up after my fight with Top Dog at the last gathering, the first thing I saw was a warrior Woman on a horse ride by. No Eric did not hit me too hard in the head, but I did wonder just for a second. I sure Crafty Dog has it on video and can back me up! Does any body on the list practice a Filipino art, in which the training is just for the sword, not the stick. using swords only in training or does everybody just practice with both? Has any body on the list seen Burmse sword fighting? Is it like the Thai stye, I may have found a contact. Regards Richard Killick. ------------------------------ From: "Al \"Got This Fish On The Move\"" Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:17:22 -0400 Subject: eskrima: The Effectiveness of the Garimot System I have studied many arts and have been exposed to many practitioners who would give anybody a run for the money. Any martial art whether it's Chinese, Filipino, Korean, Japanese is great and one can be guaranteed to learn effective fighting techniques unless one can not be taught. But personally for me my preference is the Garimot System of Arnis, a system which is very effective in all ranges and types of combat. One advantage to studying this system is that it's techniques have been honed by the necessity to survive in the streets and in the many battles in the Philippines of years ago. Another advantage is that it's chief instructor and founder, Gat Puno Abon, is very much alive and available to teach his art to any dedicated sincere student. I would like to make it clear that I'm not knocking Mr. Terry and others about all the different styles they are studying to be an effective street fighter (I did it for 16 years). I'm just saying that the Garimot System, IMO is a complete martial art system to be considered. Respectfully, Al Sardinas Student of Garimot System of Arnis ------------------------------ From: "Kevin Black" Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:14:20 PDT Subject: eskrima: Seminar in Syracuse Hello all- The Syracuse University Filipino Martial Arts Club is proud to host a Modern Arnis Seminar, featuring Punong-Guro Timothy J. Hartman and on Friday, April 30, from 7-10 pm, in Syracuse University's Archbold Gymnasium Exercise Room, on the SU Campus. Mr. Hartman holds the rank of Lakan Lima under GM Remy Presas, and is the President of the Can-Am Chapter of the International Modern Arnis Federation. The seminar will cover stick, knife and open hand techniques, and is open to all styles, for a nominal charge of $20, $10 with student ID. If interested, please email me ASAP, or call (315) 437-5963. Kevin Black President, SU Filipino Martial Arts shillelagh2@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: complete systems I agree that complete systems are great. Inayan is a complete system and we get to work a variety of martial aspects. IMHO However the real trick to mastering the essential aspects of something is to work on it all class long, class in and class out, for a year or two or three. e.g. one will not learn ground fighting by only working on it once every month. You need to roll several times a week for an hour or more at time for a year or two to get the basics down. Yes? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: bummer Just back from the X-Ray dept. My shoulder has been bothering me for a couple years. Finally had -the- test for a rotator cuff tear. Yep, it is torn. The dye leaked out... Had my left rotator cuff repaired a few years back. Not much fun, so I'm not looking forward to that same procedure on the right shoulder. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #177 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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