From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #184 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sun, 2 May 1999 Vol 06 : Num 184 In this issue: eskrima: RE:Conditoining eskrima: Techno-peasant on the loose eskrima: FMA and asthma eskrima: Southeast Asian Fighters eskrima: Cracking joints eskrima: It is like a finger.... eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #183 eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #183 eskrima: Anybody know about Yaw Yan? eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1050+ members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Leland Predon" Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 08:53:18 PDT Subject: eskrima: RE:Conditoining In my Muay Thai class I kick a normal sized (hard as cement!) 250lb bag about 50 times with each leg, and then do the same with a (softer)heavy Thai banana bag afterwards. I cannot kick the harder one at full force yet, but I kick the banana bag full force. Look at the redness of your shins after your kicking session, the red should cover the whole shin and it will tell you what areas are not being hit. If you find you cannot get a certain area you can kick upwards (like a groin kick) into the bottom of the bag with the trouble area... but be careful doing that. I condition my knees on the hard bag as well, and I always use bag gloves when using the bag... some elbow techniques are hard to use on a heavy bag, lucky for me, we have an uppercut bag at the gym, and a lot of good training partners to hold thai pads for me. Hope that helps.... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 12:49:17 EDT Subject: eskrima: Techno-peasant on the loose From Animal Well folks after months of pulling my hair out as the web page programs either crashed themselves or took my system down with them I have finally managed to put up my "No Nonsense Self-Defense" web page. (Although I had to learn how to write html code to do it but that is another story.) Anyway the address is... http://www.diac.com/~dgordon The idea is teaching people how to be safe from crime and violence, so if you teach SD as well as FMA take a look. ------------------------------ From: Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 13:28:57 EDT Subject: eskrima: FMA and asthma Greetings, One of my female students began FMA a month ago because she couldn't handle the heavy aerobic pace of her old TKD school due to her asthma. Today she told me that doing sinawali drills has helped to alleviate the asthma as she can feel the vibrations from the sticks traveling into her chest and actually helping her breathing. She has described the eskrima classes to the doctor and the effect it has on her and the doctor has agreed that what she is doing would be great for her asthma. She has also told me that ever since she's been swinging the sticks, she now takes her asthma medication once every 3-4 days instead of every day and she can breathe better than ever. Can any medically minded people explain what's actually happening here? Is it that the movement and vibrations caused during sinawali is actually massaging the lung cavity? This could be a cool new benefit of FMA training :-) Ken ------------------------------ From: " " Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 12:32:28 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Southeast Asian Fighters From: John Frankl Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:14:46 -0400 (EDT)Subject: eskrima: great fighters "I'm looking for information (bios, articles, web sites, etc.) for some ofthe Greatest Southeast Asian fighters of all-time. Legends like Diesel-noi,Mike Inay, Chai Sirisute, DeThourars, etc. I'd appreciate any cooperation. Clay Parker"Save for Diesel-noi, I personally find your list more of a "great teachers" than great fighters. This is not to say that all of the above-mentioned teachers are not also good fighters, just that their fighting ability is not the reason you and I know of them. Chai Sirisute himself admits that he never was a champion of Lumpinee or Rachadamnern and was little known before the U.S. seminar scene. While DeThoars, strictly speaking, is not Southeast Asian. In any case, the common denominator among Inay, Sirisute, and DeThoars is number of students not number of fights won (and not to make Rocky too happy but I would say the same thing about Bruce Lee).John Frankl Thanks, John. In addition to Diesel-noi, who would you consider among the great Southeast Asian fighters? - -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums ------------------------------ From: Michael Koblic Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:48:09 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Cracking joints >BTW - Apart from Crafty's piece on skeletal alignment, everybody seemed to >ignore my post about joint cracking, any takers (see ED issue 170), I've had >a few private responses asking to forward any replies, but the real >"med-heads" seemed to be more interested in Ray's one-man defence of TKD. My understanding is that the noise produced during cracking one's joints is the sound of vaccum being broken between the two joint surfaces. No structural changes take place. Mike Koblic, Quesnel BC ------------------------------ From: "Mark Harrell" Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 14:03:17 PDT Subject: eskrima: It is like a finger.... From: Mike Casto Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #182 <> **************************************************************** This sounds alot like what the Late Bruce Lee said in 1973: "It is like a finger, pointing away to the moon... Don't concentrate on the finger or you will lose all the heavenly glory". "Do you understand"? Guru Harrell _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Eddie Teo Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 11:50:52 +0800 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #183 Hello to everyone on the list. Just wondering if any FMA instruction was available in Singapore, or if anyone with previous/current FMA experience residing in Singapore was interested in doing some training. Any help or information in this area would be much appreciated. Thanks. Paul Teo ------------------------------ From: "Jeffrey Monaghan" Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 21:08:24 -0700 Subject: eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #183 I passed on commenting about cracking your neck by hyper-extending it because I'm guilty of doing the same thing. It feels much looser and more mobile after I do it. There is a temporary condition that can result from it but it slips my mind. It causes dizziness and pain or a tingling sensation. I think the popping noise is from a hollow vacuum that is suddenly created and then the blood rushing into the space or nitrogen bubbles but I really don't think they know...Not a lot of money going to research this effect. What I'm trying to say is that I don't think there is any agreement as to the cause. I was told by an ortho surgeon that it can cause degeneration of the disc. By his partner latter told me that it is harmless. So I don't know who to believe. I can ask around. As for the conditioning the knuckles... don't it can cause arthritis later in life. The hands are very fragile. One of the most common bone breaks is the boxer's fracture of the metacarpals in the hand. You can't condition against this. This is why boxers wrap their hands and wear gloves, it isn't to protect the other guys face. Hard to soft and soft to hard. This is why I love LucayLucay Kali, they use the forearms, backhands, and palm strikes to hit the face. They do use the knife in a boxing like motion in a reverse and normal grip. The knife is seamlessly integrated into the Panatukan boxing. They hit with the but of the knife and shave with the blade when doing the destructions. The motion of the blade is similar to the elbows. The blade hand is used EXACTLY as the empty hand. The striking drills are also the knife drills, etc. . Jeff Monaghan "The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese." ------------------------------ From: "G. Michael Zimmer" Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 22:55:05 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Anybody know about Yaw Yan? Anybody know about Yaw Yan? See http://users.netropolis.net/yawyan/ regards, G. Michael Zimmer ------------------------------ From: Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 11:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #184 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.