From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #204 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Fri, 14 May 1999 Vol 06 : Num 204 In this issue: eskrima: Dear John eskrima: Dear everyone... eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #202 eskrima: Titles eskrima: DB Head Shot Enlightenment eskrima: Master Feats eskrima: Infomercial eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1050 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Manalo Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Dear John John, If I told you my Master did see the old broken down tunnels in the Philippines when he was with Tatang Illustrisimo and Tatang Mena, would you believe me, or would you want me to ask my Master to point it out on the map of "Famous Warrior Training Facilities in the Philippines" for you?? If you pose a question, or dispute a statement, at least have the common decency to not disrespect someone's opinions or ask more than what can be given. If you've got such a big boner for hard proof, then find the tunnels yourself. As for titles, I put that there because I represent my organization as an advanced guro first and foremost. And, even though I'm considered a teacher, I'm still, and will always be, a student of my art and my culture. I also put my title to let people know that I am responsible for knowing a certain level of knowledge, and people can ask me questions on Eskrima beyond the basic level. What do you stand for, John? Peace, Bob Manalo, Jr. Advanced Guro IESA _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Dear everyone... Time to get off the tunnel vision thing. Do/did they exist? We will probably never know for sure. All we do know is that they are part of the very interesting oral history within the FMA. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:36:17 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #202 >Gat Puno Abon was concerned that he was going to have to turn >to one of his more viscous head strikes, but he wanted to avoid it because >of risk of likelyhood of severely dropping his IQ, all sorts of other >medical problems, and even death. Are "viscous head strikes" for thick people? (Sorry....:-)) ------------------------------ From: "Al \"Got This Fish On The Move\"" Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:15:40 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Titles Mr. Frankl, Did something Advanced Guro Bob Manalo Jr. write struck your nerve that you have to attack him for using a title bestowed upon him from his instructor? Is that Harvard.edu portion of your email address misleading? Do you have a title that you don't used because of your extreme humbleness? Anyway, if you recall, Guro Marc "Crafty Dog" Denny wrote a while back about titles and usage, which clearly justified one's prerogative of using one's title. Disagreeing and writing about something one wrote is one thing, attacking a person's title is childish. Respectfully, Al Sardinas Student of Garimot System of Arnis ------------------------------ From: "Al \"Got This Fish On The Move\"" Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:04:11 -0400 Subject: eskrima: DB Head Shot Enlightenment After reading emails from other members on the list regarding head shots and quoting Guro Denny, "Placement matters!" I will retract my question of whether or not participants hold back their power at Gatherings. My educated statement is that "Knockout strikes to the head will occur with the proper power and placement." Respectfully, Al Sardinas Student of Garimot System of Arnis ------------------------------ From: "Al \"Got This Fish On The Move\"" Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:56:24 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Master Feats Rick Rubien wrote: In E. D. #201 Al Sardinas wrote: "In my opinion a master's feats have very much to do with his art." " Personally I disagree with this statement for three reasons. 1) It is possible that someone with no skill can beat someone who may be very proficient in their art form (a master even). I know that this doesn't happen in theory however it can in the real world. 2) This just brings us back to the age old argument what is the best style. 3) It is the practitioner not the style that counts." Sorry Mr. Rubien I think you have misunderstood what I wrote and if you read your statements again you will see that you contradicted yourself. I did write what you quoted me but you forgot to include my other statement: "Like a champion boxer, sprinter, or a spelling bee champion, their feats of victory are a result of their art or training." As you can see I am not talking about one style over another (eliminate reason #2 and #3), I'm talking about training for an athletic event or studying for an academic event. Success involves training or studying to develop your skills. Mr. Rubien you also wrote: "If you don't practice your skill will not increase". If you firmly believe in reason # 1 then why practice, why increase your skill? You won't need it! And as you wrote these are my opinions. Respectfully, Al Sardinas Student of Garimot System of Arnis ------------------------------ From: "Al \"Got This Fish On The Move\"" Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:56:38 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Infomercial Mr. Frankl, Lonnie may have gotten carried away (lengthwise only) with his writings about Gat Puno Abon's prowess during his many fights but that does not give you the right to disrespect GP. Lonnie did not write an infomercial, what you read was his passion for his instructor. Since it seems you like very short stories about topics, maybe I can sum up what Lonnie wrote ( I will revert back to my old Brooklyn ways) - When it comes to fighting, Gat Puno Abon is a bad MF. Believe it or not, I say this out of no disrespect to you and others. And apologies to everyone for my use of language. Respectfully, Al Sardinas Student of Garimot System of Arnis ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #204 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.