From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #223 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Thurs, 27 May 1999 Vol 06 : Num 223 In this issue: eskrima: Cutting practice eskrima: Filipino Weapons eskrima: Feinting eskrima: Forwarded mail... eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #222 eskrima: James Bowie; Part IV Re: eskrima: James Bowie; Part IV eskrima: Carrying Sticks on Flights eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1050 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Beckett Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 07:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Cutting practice Many greetings to all!!! We have had success using various diameter cardboard tubing to test cutting techniques. Paper towel tubes work great for snap cuts, etc., while heavy duty shipping tubes are used for slashes and 'hacks'. I carry a Busse Steel Heart II that cleaves heavy guage 6' tubes with authority, and remains razor sharp. I have experimented with soda cans and find that they do work well, just make sure they are empty... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "David W. Fulton" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:39:10 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Filipino Weapons Has anyone purchased any equipment from I & I Sports, especially blades? If so, what was the quality like? For anyone interested, they have a site at: www.iisportsonline.com Also, for anyone in the mood to drool over some nice moro blades, check out: www.globe.com.ph/~palacio/moro_blades.html They have some very nice looking moro blades, that appear to be the "real mccoy". At those prices, it will be a while before I'll have to worry about actually getting any of my drool on one of them though. I'm leaving early today and further extending my holiday weekend (nah, nah, nah ;), so I'll go ahead and wish everyone a happy and safe holiday weekend (for all us "yanks"). Swing a stick, grill a steak, and pop a beer! Dave. ------------------------------ From: Kalki Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 22:47:54 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Feinting From G.M. Bustillo I learned the lesson of training to -hit- when an opponent feints ... he feints in -any- way, you hit him before he can do anything else, eh? Same thing in TKD and kung fu ... he moves you hit him/kick him first ... he starts, you finish. General idea behind training with such intentions is for us to cultivate quickness in reflexive aggressive response to opportunity. ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Forwarded mail... Forwarding this shout... :) Ray - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forwarded message: From: "Leo Gaje" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:20:10 PDT TO:ALL PRACTITIONERS & STUDENTS OF PEKITI-TIRSIA KALI SYSTEM FROM: GRANDTUHON LEO T. GAJE, JR. SUPREME GRANDMASTER OF THE PEKITI-TIRSIA KALI SYSTEM THE ORIGINAL INDIGENOUS FIGHTING ARTS OF THE PHILIPPINES SUBJECT:PEKITI-TIRSIA GLOBAL STANDARD POLICY OF INSTRUCTIONS,LIFE TIME MEMBERSHIP,PRIVILEDGES,ADMINISTRATION OF TITLES AND RANKING PROMOTIONS, ACCELERATION OF TECHNICAL ADVANCEMENTS, UPDATE INFORMATIONS MORE ABOUT THE INDIGENOUS ART GENERATED BY THE ADVANCED STUDIES, RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. BEFORE THE START OF THE MILLENIUM, THE YEAR 2000, THE PEKITI--TIRSIA KALI SYSTEM WILL IMPLEMENT THE GLOBALIZATION STANDARD POLICY OF INSTRUCTIONS, LIFE TIME MEMBERSHIP,OPPORTUNITIES AND PRIVILEDGES WHILE TRAINING IN THE PHILIPPINES, ADMINISTRATION OF TITLE AND RANKING STATUS, PROMOTIONS, ACCELERATIONS FOR TECHNICAL ADVANCEMENT,UPDATED INFORMATIONS MORE ABOUT THE INDIGENOUS ART GENERATED BY THE ADVANCED STUDIES, RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. THIS INFORMATION WILL BE FOLLOWED BY PRINTED MATERIALS IN FORMS OF BOOKS / PEKITI-TIRSIA IN ACTION, TRAINING MANUALS IN BOOK FORMS,TRAINING TAPES,DIRECT INSTRUCTIONS FROM GRAND TUHON HIMSELF CONDUCTING THE TRAINING. ADMINISTRATION POLICIES, DISCIPLINE AND PUNITIVE MEASURES POLICIES. SINCE THE PEKITI-TIRSIA KALI IS CONTINUING CONDUCTING EXTENSIVE RESEARCH INTO THE HINTERLAND OF THE PHILIPPINE ISLANDS FOR MORE HIDDEN TECHNOLOGY OF THE INDIGENOUS ART INCLUDING DUMOG-PANGAMUT, AN ART OF DIRTY TRICKS, MALAYU SIBAT,DAGASO TIRSIA AND THE ART OF LUGOD,THE HIGHER LEARNING OF PARANORMAL AND THE ART OF METAPHYSICS, LIFE MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN AND DISCOVER THE REAL SECRETS OF KALI. THE ART OF HEALING, A COMBINATION OF HERBOLOGY AND HILOT TOUCH MAKES THE LIFETIME MEMBER ACCESSIBLE TO LEARN DIRECTLY FROM THE INDIGENOUS MASTERS.AS OF TODAY ONLY THE PEKITI-TIRSIA SYSTEM WILL OPEN THE THE GRANDEST OPPORTUNITY FOR LIFE TIME MEMBER TO DEEPLY INVOLVE IN LEARNING THE ART OF INVINCIBILITY. TO PREVENT DUPLICATIONS AND CROSS METHODS IN THE TEACHING OF PEKTI-TIRSIA AS AN ORIGINAL ART, THE GLOBAL STANDARDIZATION WILL PROVIDE A SIMPLE , CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THE METHODICAL PROCEDURES TOGETHER WITH THE SERIES OF SUB-METHODS WITHIN THE SYSTEM.. FOR THOSE WHO HAD PREVIOUS TRAINING MUST ADOPT THE INSTRUCTIONAL STANDARDS IF HE OR SHE IS LICENSED TO TEACH UNDER THE NEW PROGRAM. OUR GENERAL HEADQUARTERS IN THE PHILIPPINES WILL PROVIDE ALL THE INFORMATION MATERIALS. PEKITI-TIRSIA PHILIPPINES, INC. GLADLY ANNOUNCE THE OPENING OF THE NEW BEACH LINE TRAINING CAMP IN DUMAGUETE CITY, NEG. OCC. WITH BRAND NEW HOTEL FACILITIES, A BEACH ON THE BEACH SWIMMING POOLS, SCUBA DIVING. WATER SKIING,MODERN RESTAURANTS WITH ALL KINDS OF FRESH SEA FOODS, THE LIFE TIME MEMBER WILL BE GIVEN 60% DISCOUNT FOR THE TRAINING COST AND DISCOUNTS ON HOTELS AND FOODS; THIS YEAR 1999 WILL BE THE OFFICIAL START OF THE SERIES OF TRAINING PROGRAMMS AND ACCELERATION OF INSTRUCTORS . FOR THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE KALI WORLD CONGRESS AND THE MASTERY TRAINING CAMP, I REQUIRE EACH ONE TO TAKE THE TRAINING IN THE ART OF INVINCIBLITY AND A COMPLETE REVIEW OF THE METHODS AND TO LEARN THE APPLIED TECHNIQUES FOR EACH METHOD FOR TECHNICAL SPARRING TO GAIN THE MASTERY FOR EACH MEHOD. THEN TESTING FOR PROMOTIONS AND ACCELERATION OF TITLES FOR DESERVING INSTRUCTORS. A SPECIAL TRADITIONAL CEREMONIAL ACCOLADE WILL BE BESTOWED TO THE PROMOTED INSTRUCTORS UNDER THE TRADITIONAL RANKING SYSTEM. GRANDTUHON LEO T. GAJE, JR. ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:35:54 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #222 >>If you do use feinting, does your follow through shot lack power due to the sudden change of angles?<< Nope, not at all. We typically use a whittik or abanico hit off of the feint, and don't lose a thing in the way of power or deception. Serrada is known for effective use of feinting, and Angel Cabales was a master of the feint, or "picking" as we call it. The fact that he survived many challenge matches using feinting (along with other tactics, of course) is testament enough for me as to its place in combat. Kim ------------------------------ From: "Kevin Davis" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:50:58 -0700 Subject: eskrima: James Bowie; Part IV Again quoting from Jeff Cooper's "FireWorks": "Bowie was badly hurt on the sandbar, and his slow convalescence is held by Wellman to have been the proximate cause of his next encounter. His weakened condition may well have seemed providential to a certain Natchez bravo with a knife reputation of his own. For Bowie was a famous man by this time--perhaps too frightening to be tackled when well, but a valid trophy even if taken at a disadvantage. It was only months after the Maddox-Wells duel that the two men met, armed with knives, and with left wrists strapped together. Sick or not, Bowie nearly severed his opponent's right arm above the elbow. That he did not kill him seems out of character, and this single case of leniency nearly cost him his life, for Bowie was ambushed in a canebrake shortly thereafter adn his assailants were assumed to have been in the employ of the man whose life he sparred. The canebrake episode lent fitting corroboration to the Bowie legend. He and his servant, both mounted, were fired upon at arm's length in full dark. Both were hit, the servant fatally, and one horse was killed. As the three attackers closed in to finish off the wounded men, Bowie killed one with a straight thrust from the saddle, a second as he slid to the ground, and then, as the third tried to flee, the famed knife was thrown and landed solidly in the back of the running man's head. As the noise of the scuffle drew men with lanterns, the call of "Who's there?" brought the storied reply, "Five of us. One alive." Here,certainly, is a killer. Fighting in legitimate self-defense, his is by no means willing to let it go at that. The terrible concentration of the instinctive destroyer is such that he will risk the loss of his weapon in order to prevent the escape of a man who is no longer a threat. This is the sort of personality that may indeed repel the tender-hearted, but it is one which is unabashedly exalted in the folklore of the American West. Score one for the killer-hero." Cooper goes on to say: "...he left the United States to become a Mexican citizen and the son-in-law and deputy of Governor Veramendi of Bexar. His character in legend stands as cultivated, accomplished, amoral, apolitical, ambitious, efficient, and lethal." I hope that members of the ED have enjoyed this thread. I know that I have benefited from input as to Bowie's possible connections to FMA and the FMA influence in New Orleans during Bowie's time. Furthermore, I would recommend Col.Jeff Cooper's other reads, "To ride, shoot straight and speak the truth" "Priciples of personal defense" Cooper is known as the dean of American pistolcraft and has killed in personal combat. His daughter also wrote a biography entitled, "Jeff Cooper-The soul and the spirit" Regards, KD ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: eskrima: James Bowie; Part IV > Orleans during Bowie's time. Furthermore, I would recommend Col.Jeff > Cooper's other reads, "To ride, shoot straight and speak the truth" > "Priciples of personal defense" Cooper is known as the dean of American > pistolcraft and has killed in personal combat. His daughter also wrote a > biography entitled, "Jeff Cooper-The soul and the spirit" I agree with your comments about Cooper. It was great meeting him at Gunsite a few years ago. Nice house! Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "J H" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:17:45 PDT Subject: eskrima: Carrying Sticks on Flights What about carrying bombs? Just curious. ;) Fry Bread Boy _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #223 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, directory pub/eskrima/digests. 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