From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #225 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sat, 29 May 1999 Vol 06 : Num 225 In this issue: eskrima: Personally I'd rather be drawn and quartered, but... eskrima: not being anti social eskrima: The Feint Deferred eskrima: Feints and misc [none] eskrima: Memorial Day .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tenrec Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 04:06:12 +0100 Subject: eskrima: Personally I'd rather be drawn and quartered, but... to Mr. Crafty Congratulation to you and best wishes to your better half! (Now what's little Moro-Moro gonna do for a TLC?) tenrec tenrec@avcorner.com /* Mabuhay ang Bagong Kasal! Mabuhay! Raise da roof! */ ------------------------------ From: Rocky Pasiwk Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 23:35:37 -0700 Subject: eskrima: not being anti social Sorry to all who have tried to e-mail me lately I am not being rude, my computer decided to kick me in the nuggies. I just go my mail for the first time in about 3 weeks I have over 300 e-mails obviously I am not going to read them all.so if it was important re mail me otherwise, you will be filed in the circular file can if you know what I mean. Congradulations Marc, and Cindy!! ------------------------------ From: Kalki Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 22:16:58 -0500 Subject: eskrima: The Feint Deferred I should have been clear and specific in my comment re: feinting ... sole focus was -unarmed- fighting. I have a related question for those in the know: How would you compare the usefulness of feints with differing weapons at different ranges of combat? Altho some of this may be intuitive (e.g., feint at long range??? "tool"-dependent, some may be useful, some useless/wasted), I'd just like to 'hear' some experience-based comments. Even locking and throwing use feints, e.g., in Shuai Chiao, an intended throw may be preceded by a quick push or pull (or hit) in a different direction, similarly Chin Na (Dumog, Hapkido, Aikido maybe?). Reiterating, my previous comment on feinting was re: sans weapon. Be well, Mik ------------------------------ From: "Dave Huang" Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 09:56:06 PDT Subject: eskrima: Feints and misc RE: Feinting, effectiveness of Feinting is effective if the other guy isn't that experienced. A lot of really good people, I think, treat the feint a "real attack" and deal with it accordingly. Guro R. Bustillo was showing us the other night that if you deal with the feint as an attack and counter-attack as you normally would, you would beat the guy with your own hit. He was using principles from kendo and JKD (hitting on the half-beat) also to counter the feint. Very cool. That being said, my limited exposure to the Illustrisimo system included uses of the feint (enganyo?), and it does so very effectively. Question: Does PIA (Progressive Indirect Attack in JKD vernacular) constitute a "feint," for the purposes of this discussion? Misc. 1) Congrats Guro Crafty! 2) Was curious, are there other systems out there doing much staff training? We were doing some at IMB. I spoke with Guro Bustillo who told me that the Villabrille system had some staff in their curriculum. Obviously, DBIMA does as witnessed at the last Gathering. What about the Wing Chun/FMA guys out there? Dave _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Subject: [none] Ray - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Forwarded message: >From eskrima-owner Sat May 29 11:47:12 1999 Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 11:47:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: BOUNCE eskrima: Non-member submission from >From eskrima-owner Sat May 29 08:47:08 1999 To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 08:36:23 -0700 From: " " Subject: Great Eskrima fighters I've read alot about many great Eskrima fighters like Angel Cabales, Floro Villabrille, Felizissimo Dixon, etc. Who do you feel is the greatest Eskrima fighter(s) of all-time? - --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 10:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Memorial Day To those in the US, enjoy the long weekend. Anyone else remember when Memorial Day was Decoration Day? Ray Terry ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #225 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.