From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #236 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Fri, 4 June 1999 Vol 06 : Num 236 In this issue: eskrima: sticks PVC/Tuhon Bill eskrima: kukri eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #234 eskrima: 3' walking sticks, originally from Burma. eskrima: Two Hands, staffs and spears/ gun technique eskrima: Looking for Lameco eskrima: Cold Steel Knives eskrima: What Crafty did next... eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HUBBARDNOW@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 22:59:13 EDT Subject: eskrima: sticks PVC/Tuhon Bill Comment on PVC shattering: can be minimized by only using schd 40 as opposed to schd 200 which will shatter easily in an ugly way. Confusion regarding comment in Tuhon Bill McGrath's excellent email specifically "smaller/less experienced/female,ect" I understand the less experienced category as I have often been in that position and been handed my head, or conversely taken advantage of same. However being large and strong have never found an advisories being "small" to be any kind of handicap. In fact in my experience from fighting anywhere from the street to a ring a small man often comes with an attitude and fury not easily matched. As for the comment on female don't tell me we ever have a chance for a fair fight with one of them :-). Respectfully John ------------------------------ From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Roberto Romeiro =?iso-8859-1?Q?Abrah=E3o?= Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 22:21:36 -0300 Subject: eskrima: kukri Dear Sir: I hava a little experience with the kukri. It's a chopping instrument - nothing more, nothing less. As the jambyia & the kumyia arabian daggers are defensive tools, and the ka-bar & bowie are fighting tools, and the A-F, F-S, V-42 are just killing, trusting tools. For each work, the right tool. Íf in a fight I'll want to cop a head, hand, arm, leg off of the oponent, I'll choose the kukri more than a 12-gauge shotgun firing buckshot! In real life, I carry a Gerber Mk.II & a jambyia, one for deffense, other for attacks. I think that I'll opt for a kukri along a trusting-apt tool, such as a ka-bar, a kriss, or a thick-bladed dagger. Anyway, I think the kukri is a offensive tool, except if you use it for blocking, but you must be accostumed to it's special angle of blade. In escrima, as well as in hap-ki-do, the movements put much more momentum to it's heavy weight, hence, much more copping power. Sir, do you like weapons? If so, please, visit my pages on the web: http://members.delphi.com/angelofwar/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/ar/firedragon/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/newsfromhomeland/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/mastermagician/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/security/index.html and this interesting site: http://www.alaska.net/%7Ejared/books.html Thank you. Your humble servant, Abrahão. ------------------------------ From: jmfrankl Date: Thu, 3 Jun 99 23:27:35 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #234 >Has anyone here experimented with using khukuris (singularly or in pairs) >within the FMA framework? If so, what were your impressions? I'm >considering purchasing some khukuris, since filipino weapons are rather hard >to come by, but the profile/forward balance of the blade concerns me. Interesting. I guess, like so many things in the Philippines, it's a regional thing. But the typical bolo I saw carried on Luzon, Oriental Mindoro, and Palawan had a forward curve. Not as drastic as SOME khukris but still substantial. It makes for a great and efficient hacking weapon, and, if the point is lined up correctly, an adequate thruster. I forged one out of 1095 that Tuhon McGrath saw (for Jack Bernard), perhaps he can comment? >Btw, does anyone else think it's odd, considering the popularity of FMA and >the number of FMA that emphasize the blade, that filipino blades are so hard >to come by? Practice blades in aluminum from Edges2 are pretty good. But if you are talking about real blades I would offer two possible reasons: Many styles stick to the stick work, and unless you are either dueling or working in the jungle, a real blade is not that necessary. >In fact, bigger blades (15" or more) in general, are difficult >to come by with the exception of machetes. Of course there are custom >makers, but the ones I've come across are expensive. Just out of curiosity, what do people out there consider expensive? reasonable? > >Respectfully, > >Dave Fulton. >dwf@computerpackages.com John Frankl ------------------------------ From: Ted Truscott Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:29:59 +0100 Subject: eskrima: 3' walking sticks, originally from Burma. From: Ken <> Ken, I teach cane work and walking stick skills and I want one, I really want one!! My wife wants one! Is there any way at all to find a source for them? Ted Truscott "the fighting old man" ------------------------------ From: "BILL MCGRATH" Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 23:35:08 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Two Hands, staffs and spears/ gun technique "Which arts use two hands on the stick?" In Pekiti-Tirsia there are a several places were two hands are used on the stick. In the Abcedario (basic 144 strikes) there 2 sets called "Bayonet" sets. Each set has 12 strikes with one hand on each of the stick palms down. The Abcedario also contains two "Double Force" sets in which the left hand grasps the wrist of the stick hand. This is to add force without hindering flexibility in movements. In advanced forms such as Seguidas ("Bridging" entries), Contradas (counters) and Recontras (recounters) you will find techniques in which the left hand (on a right hander) grips the stick a few inches to a foot above the right hand for power when scooping with the back of the stick, to add power to thrusts, and to aid in weapon retention in close quarters. The high position of this grip looks like the grip one uses to thrust with a bayonet equipped rifle. In addition, the first and second sets of Seguidas can be converted to spear technique. In the late 1970's Tuhon Gaje brought back from a trip to the Philippines a staff technique called "Tapada" (different than "Tapado") which uses a full head height rattan staff that is rather whippy . The techniques involve striking the lead foot of the opponent as one of the primary targets and uppercutting the opponent's arms on the rebound with movements taken from the alphabet. "Are firearms part of the Filipino martial arts?" Just to show that guns are pertinent to the FMA's, Pekiti-Tirsia has long had a body of technique Tuhon Gaje calls "Gun Seguidas". It involves 36 techniques for close quarters drawing, gun retention and ground work with a pistol (picture getting knocked to the ground in a bar fight and having to draw your gun while surrounded by hostiles). It puts you through every conceivable position and is very useful when things get tight and messy (pure Pekiti). There are also very specific techniques that deal with knife vs. bayonet equipped rifle, as well as pistol and long gun disarming. Regards, Tuhon Bill McGrath "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves from tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson ------------------------------ From: RBalicki@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 02:26:08 EDT Subject: eskrima: Looking for Lameco << Hi to all, A friend of mine is going to Los Angeles next month, he 's looking for = some Lameco Eskrima or some Inayan Eskrima people teaching in The Los = Angeles area. Any adresse will be greatly appreciated Mabuhay ng Eskrima Stephane, Paris France >> Hi Stephane, Please have your friend call me when he gets in to Los Angeles. I can take him through some Lameco workouts. My phone number is (310) 530-6753. Ron Balicki RBalicki@aol.com ------------------------------ From: RBalicki@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 02:36:41 EDT Subject: eskrima: Cold Steel Knives If anyone out there is interested I can sell Cold Steel knives at 20 % off retail. You can E-Mail me at MARSystems@aol.com Thanks Ron Balicki ------------------------------ From: "Jon Howard" Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:21:42 -0000 Subject: eskrima: What Crafty did next... Hi There. Did anyone on the list have the please of attending Crafty's seminar in Birmingham (England) last month. I was hoping to go but family pressures kept me away in the end. Could someone please let me know a little bit about what I missed. Maybe the big man himself can (when he get's back from his european tour *grin*) Yours in the arts... Jon... ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #236 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, directory pub/eskrima/digests. 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