From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #237 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Fri, 4 June 1999 Vol 06 : Num 237 In this issue: eskrima: firearms Seguidas eskrima: burmese walking stick eskrima: two handed style eskrima: desperately seeking rattan eskrima: Tragediddly rooty toot toot eskrima: Custom made "Bolo" Re: eskrima: two handed style eskrima: Seminar in Modernized Philippine Martial Arts eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Patrick Davies Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:47:53 +0100 Subject: eskrima: firearms Seguidas Tuhon Bill McGrath : "Are firearms part of the Filipino martial arts?" Just to show that guns are pertinent to the FMA's, Pekiti-Tirsia has long had a body of technique Tuhon Gaje calls "Gun Seguidas". It involves 36 techniques for close quarters drawing, gun retention and ground work with a pistol (picture getting knocked to the ground in a bar fight and having to draw your gun while surrounded by hostiles). Snip I saw Guro Inosanto demonstrate this at the Edinburgh(UK) seminar last November. Very impressive too. pat ------------------------------ From: lee yow ching Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:51:24 +0800 (MYT) Subject: eskrima: burmese walking stick In ED v6 #235 Ken wrote: >The appearance of the >wood is that it's semi-segmented, like rattan, but it has uneven, >attractive patches of alternating lighter and darker shades. If anyone can >identify this wood from my meager description, I'd appreciate it -- it >would make for some excellent tools for FMA'ers. Your description matches the burmese walking/hiking stick i have. Mine has a 'T' shaped handle instead of the regular inverted 'J' walking stick handle. It's not rattan, it's bamboo. Mel Penang, Malaysia. ------------------------------ From: "Galicha, JR" Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:36:33 -0500 Subject: eskrima: two handed style >>aren't there some "Dos Manos" (two hand) systems...?<< Is this style tailored for use of a Kampilan sword? We are talking about two hands on one stick and not siniwali, right? Also, I noticed that on some Kampilans there is a hook that curves out of the backside of the sword, about 4-5 inches from the top. Besides some obvious applications, anyone else know what this may have been used for? I hear very little of this weapon, and even less of those who actually know how to use one - besides those who "claim" to know, but actually just made up their stuff in their garage...:) Since it's one of the only "two handed swords" of the Philippines it's always drawn my interest. Does anyone know of other two handed swords of the PI. Jun Galicha IESA ------------------------------ From: "Branwen Thomas" Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:18:26 -0230 Subject: eskrima: desperately seeking rattan ...well, not *desperately*, but...I'm trying to find rattan wholesalers to supply our club. I own a bookstore (joy!), and have access to some gift item suppliers, but they only carry rattan furniture and planters. While I am not above whipping a chair at someone's head if it is the only weapon at hand ;), we do need decent rattan sticks at a reasonable price. We've been buying them from MA suppliers, which are usually in the US, and since we're in Canada (Newfoundland), the exchange rate is sometimes excruciating. My Sifu is also interested in perhaps making armour (a la SCA). If anyone has any addresses, phone #s etc for purchasing quantities of rattan, please post to list or email me privately. thanks, jocelyne branwen@seascape.com Roaring Girl * Purveyor Of Fine Books * Beater Of Bodhrans * Smiter Of The Wicked * * Owned By Angus, Most Elegant And Pleasing Of Cats * ------------------------------ From: kirk_righter@peoplesoft.com Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 16:01:16 GMT Subject: eskrima: Tragediddly rooty toot toot <> OK, so every time someone pulls a gun on me, I feint. Awright, awright, back to FMA... ------------------------------ From: "David W. Fulton" Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 13:54:29 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Custom made "Bolo" You wrote: > >Interesting. I guess, like so many things in the Philippines, it's a >regional thing. But the typical bolo I saw carried on Luzon, Oriental >Mindoro, and Palawan had a forward curve. Not as drastic as SOME khukris >but still substantial. It makes for a great and efficient hacking weapon, >and, if the point is lined up correctly, an adequate thruster. I forged >one out of 1095 that Tuhon McGrath saw (for Jack Bernard), perhaps he can >comment? John, do you have any on-line images of your bolo? I'd like to see what it looks like. > >>Btw, does anyone else think it's odd, considering the popularity of FMA and >>the number of FMA that emphasize the blade, that filipino blades are so hard >>to come by? >> >>In fact, bigger blades (15" or more) in general, are difficult >>to come by with the exception of machetes. Of course there are custom >>makers, but the ones I've come across are expensive. > >Just out of curiosity, what do people out there consider expensive? >reasonable? Well, the first problem is finding someone who actually makes filipino style swords, as opposed to big knives, or japanese or eurepean style swords (all of which are very different beasts to make I'm told). A custom knife (in a standard blade size for a knife) runs anywhere from $200 to $900+ and swords go for anything from $900 to $3000+. What would you concider reasonable for a bolo with an 15" long, 3/8" thick, full tang blade of 5160 or 1095? I realize certain makers can ask for more $$ because of who they are, but what do you think is reasonable, based upon having made one? For an idea of the basic design I'm thinking of, see: lugani.com/visayanlegacy/blades.html Their "Bolo Sword" is pretty much what I'm looking for style wise. Interesting note, it has a forward curve too though not as drastic as a khukuri. Dave. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: eskrima: two handed style Re two handed styles, Inayan Larga Mano is a two handed, 9 angle style. It uses a longer heavy cane and teaches one the proper use of the kampilan. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "big Joe A." Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 12:45:53 PDT Subject: eskrima: Seminar in Modernized Philippine Martial Arts Hi guys, It's me Big Joe again. I just wanted to ask a few questions as well as plug my instructors upcoming seminar. A few intersting questions came up last night in another M.A. class that I am taking. It really made me think why do I still do this. Why do I beat up my body training every week. I mean I've had several injuries while training from your run of the mill sprain to broken bones but I still continue to train. My question is why do we do this to ourselves? I know for me that after 6 years of training in several different martial arts the arts have become some what of an obsession with me. It's gotten into my blood and has become a major part of who I am. The training has helped me so much over the years by giving me confidence and control. They have given a feeling of empowerment. What have they done for you? What have you done for them? Think about this but don't respond. By the way my thanks to those who helped me realize what they really meant to me. Well enough said about that. Here comes the plug. My instuctor Norlito B. Soriano is going to be teaching a seminar in july. If any of you are free that weekend I suggest you check it out. All the info will follow this. Trust me it will be worth your time and money. Thanks for listening. Your friend in training, Big Joe Modernized Philippine Martial Arts The Fighting Stick We are pleased to announce a seminar in the Modernized Philippine Martial Arts. It will be conducted at Solari Community Center in San Jose, California. Prof. Norlito B. Soriano formerly of the Samahang Ng Arnis Ng Pilipinas (Brotherhood of Arnis of the Philippines, circa 1960’s) will be teaching this seminar. He is seventh generation in the Filipino Martial Arts as well as the head and founder of the Modernized Philippine Martial Arts. This seminar will cover the basics of the Visayas style of stick fighting. Fee: $80.00 for the full seminar / $20.00 for spectators Location: Solari Community Center 3590 Cas Drive San Jose, Ca 95111 Date: July 10, 1999 Time: Registration at 9:30A.M. Seminar begins at 10:00 A.M. and ends at 5:00P.M. Styles Covered: The seminar will cover the basics of the Visayas style of stick fighting. This style is a paired weapon style in the Espada y Daga lengths (i.e. one long and one short stick) which allows for greater flexibility in weapon range. This Modernized style was developed and refined by Prof. Soriano to be combat effective. Gear: You will need to bring a cup (if male), loose comfortable clothing, and a water bottle. All sticks will be provided. No hardwoods allowed. Absolutely no cameras allowed!!!! For more information or to reserve your place e-mail Joe Artigas at Ninjoe@hotmail.com or call him at (408) 266-2931. If the machine picks up leave a message and he will return your call as soon as possible. "The only constant in LIFE is Change." -N.B.S.- _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #237 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.