From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #246 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Tues, 8 June 1999 Vol 06 : Num 246 In this issue: eskrima: Black Belt Mag eskrima: IKF Article eskrima: Random Violence eskrima: Re: Enough Gun Stuff eskrima: Multiple arts martial arts tournament eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #207 eskrima: NYC PEKITI SEMINAR eskrima: Re: New York Pistol permits as background check for training eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. 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Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AnimalMac@aol.com Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:34:59 EDT Subject: eskrima: Black Belt Mag From Animal Hey folks for those you who who haven't picked up the July issue of black belt, I have an article that is an expansion of an old post here on the eskrima list about the four focuses of the martial arts. ------------------------------ From: Richard Marcaida Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 03:21:36 -0400 Subject: eskrima: IKF Article There is nothing wrong with questioning a certain technique after all we have our own views on certain things....but to say this and that is wrong is putting an exclamation point to a certain statement. Basing on what I read... " A big mistake- TBM is trapping his own knife hand............." Al you probably haven't met Tuhon Bill Mcgrath and seen what he can do or what he knows. I am not kissing as_ either and I know it wasn't your intention to say anything bad or discredit TBM's article. Just maybe you could've rephrased it a bit in such a way that it wouldn't have been misinterpreted. It did sound like "TBM is wrong and this is how it has to be". I know that was not your intention but that is what it sounded like on your first reaction on the article. Another question I have regarding "you should pay special attention to your opponent's weapon period" .I agree but you make it sound like controlling ones arm is wrong either ,especially with the word "period". I am of Filipino ancestry and lived in the Philippines all my life and studied under Grand Tuhon Leo Gaje, Grandmaster Tony Diego (heir to Kali Illustrisimo) ,Master Nap Fernandez (Yaw-Yan) for years and controlling your opponents arm is a similar thing to do in these arts. After all if he can't hold the weapon ,what good is the weapon or one thing I've learned from them is that when a snake is attacking you ,you don't control him by holding it's fangs but by the neck(if snakes have necks or you know what I mean). Chop off the snakes head and what good are it's fangs. Your thoughts on controlling the weapon is not wrong either but you made it sound like taking out the arm w/c holds the weapon is wrong either. Thing is, there is already an exchange words w/c is getting worse and I guess it's just miscommunication or misenterpretation. We are FMA's and it would be great if try to get along. Please don't take this as attack towards you Al nor am I taking sides. Just thought that my input could help clear things. Respectfully Yours, Rj Marcaida ------------------------------ From: Kalki Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 15:40:11 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Random Violence Funny thing ... growing up in D.C. I feared random violence over 30 years ago ... predominate concerns did not involve ballistics. I carried a blade all through adolescence and took up martial arts for survival, pure and simple, in response to my concerns re: random, criminal violence. Criminal violence will exist weapons or no. Murders, rapes, robberies, etc. will occur weapons or no. -ALL- forms of criminal violence have escalated, and I recall my last year's prediction of a surge in rapes has also begun (i.e., increase in rape has outpaced murder in some places). This I expected as a result of the easy availability of "high quality" (oxymoron maybe??) pornography via the 'web. Ask Bundy about that one, I ain't gonna comment any further. Our future, and that of our progeny is being dampened by the "well-meaning" amongst us who seem to think that the need for self defense is somehow detached from the need for self defense. What I mean is that the need for self defense increases and there are some who would like to make the would be defender the badg guy. Now that's psychotic cuz'!!! Pisture in your mind a recent case in Atlanta where a large crowd gathered to watch some guys rape a woman for hours. My first kung fu teacher once tols us to not try to stop something like that because the perps would kill us. That would probably be the case for sure these days. I once prevented the rape of a 15-year-old girl by a group of 4 ... they thought I was just another youngsta along for the "party." As they pursued their game they were unaware that I had ASP, tanto and Undercover Special with me. Didn't want to use any of it, but I remembered what Shih Fu said ... and went ahead. Fortunately the cops arrived before the fit hit the shan (I'd told my wife to call the cops before I left the house after seeing what was going down from our balcony). Now, what are we to do, let the perps get on with it or "Do the right thing?" Would I have used baton and/or blade, etc? Certainly! ...but with regret. I don't look forward to ever having to dole out any punishment ... even barehanded I'm certain that the effects could be lethal and don't want to go there. However, we must be able to make our response fit the situation, whatever that might require. Otherwise we lose and that could mean 'finis' for self and/or those dear to us. That's what martial is about, yes? Uh, by the way ... isn't violence randomly occurring throughout the ecosphere? It ain't nothin'new cuz ... that's why some of us critters got claws n'thangs ;-) Be well, Mik ------------------------------ From: J H Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:11:31 PDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Enough Gun Stuff Okay, no more cowboys and Indians! Can't we all just put away the sidearms and get back to talking FMA? Enough mud-slinging. Happy trails, ;) Fry Bread Boy _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Sidney525@aol.com Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:17:45 EDT Subject: eskrima: Multiple arts martial arts tournament I thought I'd give a blurb on what looks like an interesting tournaments. It includes everything form jujitsu to kenpo to muay thai to stickfighting. Where: Oregon, Illinois (NW part of the State) When:Saturday June 19 For all other info call Mike Mattox (815) 288-4998 Sid"vicious"Stein ------------------------------ From: Norshadow@NSTAFF.SUNYERIE.EDU Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:33:48 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #207 Recently, I attended a Connecting the Systems Seminar, hosted and conducted by Dr. Jerome Barber. The seminar was designed for instructors with karate backgrounds. There were several arts represented: 5 Fudozen Kenpo practicioners, 2 American Goju Ryu, 2 Isshin Ryu, 3 Shorinji Kenpo and 2 Tracy Kenpo. There were also 2 Modern Arnis and 1 Eight-step Preying Mantis practicioner as well as 5 students of Dr. Barber's. I was very impressed with the structure of the seminar and the way in which Dr. Barber had laid out the curriculum. The instruction began with the basic blocks common to most karate system, the inward, outward, downward and upward forearm blocks. Dr. Barber then added the Pancipanci Eskrima System footwork, combined it with the basic blocks and explained why there were difference between the karate footwork and the eskrima footwork when using the forearm blocks. Next he substituted a single stick for the forearm blocks. At this point nearly every one who had some doubts about the different footwork patterns and triangular stepping got the idea. The puzzled and skeptical looks were gone and a heightend interest in both the how and the why set in. This was really combat oriented stuff and several of the karate people were begining to get the idea that eskrima is more than an "add-on, art within your art, weapons training". He then taught two short stick against stick drills and one drill that involved empty hand against the single stick. Up to this point I was following along with some mild interest, but so far I "knew all of this stuff". Between several seminars with Dr. Barber and my own arnis training, I was cruising along very comfortably, then the "magic" began. From the empty hand vs. a single stick attack drill, Dr. Barber started to teach technique and variations. He began with the horizontal forehand stick strike to the head, then the backhand attack to the head. Suddenly I was totally engrossed with what he was doing. He was blending kenpo, arnis, silat, ju-jitsu and chin-na types of movements. He and his 2 assistant instructors, Debra and Kenny, were altering portions of the techniques for the different seminar participants on an individual basis, as needed. Some people would not need a modification, others would have the modifications made immediately as they were practicing with their partners. These alterations and adaptations were perfectly suited to the size, strength, flexibility and mobility of each person. They refered to it as "tailoring" and in several cases Dr. Barber and one of the assistants would team up and make the modification together, after observing the participant from different angles. I actually stpped working with my partner to follow Dr. Barber, Debra and Kenny around the floor so that I could see first hand what they were doing. Kenny was very receptive to having this self appointed "tag-along" and he would explain what he was looking at and why he was making certin changes or corrections with each person that he observed. The explainations that they gave on an indiviual basis and the manner in which Dr. Barber would summerize the whole technique with the coreections and adaptations was totally amazing. He explained where and from whom he had learned the variations. He showed us how he would blend something of ours into the technique. He made the system fit each person, no one had to fit into his system! He pointed out several places where height, weight and an individual's center of balance would allow one person to make a technique work quite easily, but another would would little or no success with same technique if done as shown. This seminar made me so much more aware of what my own instructor, Mr. Ken Armstrong, has been teaching me for the past three years. I was at the right place at the right time. This seminar lived up to its' title: Connecting the Systems. Dr. Barber was teaching us how Pancipanci Eskrima could help us to become more effective in our own systems or styles of martial arts. Thanks Doctor Barber, for a great seminar and the insights that you help me to discover. I would also like to thank, Debra and Kenny for their help and explanations. Lamont NorShadow PS: Thanks Ray, for your patience, and helping me through the computer problems at this end. ------------------------------ From: "BILL MCGRATH" Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:15:48 -0700 Subject: eskrima: NYC PEKITI SEMINAR This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BEB1EB.B265CEC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PEKITI-TIRSIA SEMINAR When: Saturday June 12th Where:Musical Theatre Works-440 Lafayette St. (Between 4th St and Astor = PL) in Manhattan. 4th FL Time: 1 to 5 PM=20 Cost: $40 Subject: Single Stick, Empty Hands and Knife with an emphasis on = acquiring combative skills quickly. Hope to see you there. Regards, Tuhon Bill McGrath 2nd Amendment tip: "the people" seems to have been a term of art employed in select parts = of the Constitution. The Preamble declares that the Constitution is = ordained and established by "the people of the United States." The = Second Amendment protects "the right of the people to keep and bear = Arms," and the Ninth and Tenth Amendments provide that certain rights = and powers are retained by and reserved to "the people." "the people" = protected by the Fourth Amendment, and by the First and Second = Amendments, and to whom rights and powers are reserved in the Ninth and = Tenth Amendments, refers to a class of persons who are part of a = national community or who have otherwise developed sufficient connection = with this country to be considered part of that community.=20 U.S. Supreme Court's decision in United States v. 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Time: 1 to 5 PM
Cost: $40
Subject: Single Stick, Empty Hands = and Knife=20 with an emphasis on acquiring combative skills quickly.
 
Hope to see you there.
 
Regards,
Tuhon Bill McGrath
 
2nd Amendment tip:
 "the people" seems to have been a = term of art=20 employed in select parts of the Constitution. The Preamble declares that = the=20 Constitution is ordained and established by "the people of the = United=20 States." The Second Amendment protects "the right of the = people to=20 keep and bear Arms," and the Ninth and Tenth Amendments provide = that=20 certain rights and powers are retained by and reserved to "the=20 people." "the people" protected by the Fourth Amendment, = and by=20 the First and Second Amendments, and to whom rights and powers are = reserved in=20 the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, refers to a class of persons who are = part of a=20 national community or who have otherwise developed sufficient connection = with=20 this country to be considered part of that community.
 
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