From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #253 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Mon, 14 June 1999 Vol 06 : Num 253 In this issue: eskrima: Achilles eskrima: Jacket, belt, chain, etc and dagger eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #252 eskrima: DIT DA JOW? eskrima: FMA/JKDConcepts/BJJ in Memphis eskrima: Great Eskrima Fighters eskrima: Re: GM Bustillo Seminar eskrima: Gurkha Knife Training..... [none] eskrima: Tom Bolden Summer Camp - July 10 & 11 eskrima: Looking for Yvonne Reiss and Chris Herman eskrima: Ill .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "BILL MCGRATH" Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:50:01 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Achilles A 45 year old supervisor at work had a complete Achilles separation during a basket ball game. He came down from a rebound and heard a "SNAP" and went down. It took him about a year to fully recover, but he was 75% back in 6 months he said. Twin Labs "Joint Fuel" has L-Glutamine (as Glucosomine Sulfate) Chondriotin and some other things in it to heal tendons. It has helped me with my dings and strains and has a good rep. I remember hearing that certain antibiotics temporally weaken the tendons. Have any doctors on the list heard this? If so, which ones and how long does this effect last? Regards, Bill McGrath ------------------------------ From: "BILL MCGRATH" Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 00:08:08 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Jacket, belt, chain, etc and dagger "Anybody know if FMA uses coats, jackets etc... with the use of edged weapons or with stick. Is there any instruction to be had on this subject. Are there any really good books, videos etc...? Comments?" Butch I have to divide flexible everyday weapons like jackets, chains, and belts into two categories. Distracters or Damagers. A Distracter is a weapon that can't brake a bone or do other serious damage to anything but the eyes. A jacket without something heavy like a padlock in the pocket (although the brass buttons themselves are no fun whipped in the face) or a thin section of chain (again without a padlock) would be a Distracter. A belt with a really heavy buckle or a heavy chain or a chain with a padlock on the end or any hard and heavy object in a cloth would be a Damager. You can get something of an idea of how to use Damager and Dagger (FMA D&D anyone?) from Espada y Daga if your EYD is the fluid type (I have seen the non-fluid type). The long weapon is used in circular motions and the short weapon is used to sneak in and out of the circles. With a Damager, I would put the long weapon in your dominant hand as you would normally with EYD. For Distracters, there are pros and cons to putting the long or the short weapon in your dominant hand. For clarity I'll assume you are right handed. Usually, with weapons like stick and knife or sword and dagger, you will want to use the longer, more difficult to control weapon in your more dexterous dominant right hand and the shorter, more easily controlled weapon in your left hand. Putting the Distracter in your right hand gives you more control, but your main weapon is your knife. If your opponent catches your jacket and attacks, you may quickly find yourself in the position of having to fight his right hand with your left. No big deal in empty hand, but a knifefight leaves you little margin for error (how much better is your left hand than his right?). If your left hand has the necessary dexterity (and if you are already doing Doble' Baston it should) then you can use the jacket, light chain, etc. with your left hand and keep the knife in your right. Work your techniques mirror image to your normal Espada y Daga work. Assume he will try to grab your jacket and work your counters accordingly. Question: Does anyone know of a FMA which has both: 1. A large body of EYD techniques. 2. As complete a series of left vs. right EYD techniques as the same systems' right vs. right? To be honest I haven't seen any and I think the reason may be cultural. Regards, Tuhon Bill McGrath PS. Who knows the English word whose Latin root means "on the left side"? ------------------------------ From: Kurokuwa@aol.com Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 01:36:41 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #252 Re: Coats and Jackets, Butch asked: " Are there any=20 really good books, videos etc...? Comments?" Butch, the new book I mentioned a few isues back on Spanish knife-fighting=20 contains a whole chapter on using the jacket -- by itself and with the=20 navaja. The jacket was a standard "weapon" in 18th and 19th century Spain. =20 Here's an excerpt: In some of the more traditional escuelas de armas blancas the exponents are=20 taught to hold the jacket in front of them in a fashion similar to the=20 matador's cape. The intent is to intercept any committed attacks delivered=20 by his armed opponent. Innumerable techniques are then used to ensnare and=20 restrain the captured knife and hand, the logical goal being to either disar= m=20 the opponent or turn his knife against him.=20 These techniques are also practiced at Don Santiago's Escuela, but the=20 jacket's use as a "cape" is the exception rather than the rule. Santiago=20 does not particularly favor these "cape" techniques because he feels that a=20 jacket held outstretched between the two hands can be too easily grabbed and=20 pulled by the opponent's left hand. In the space of a split-second the=20 exponent might then find himself stabbed or slashed by the waiting knife. =20 Rather than attempting to use their jackets as feeble barriers against a=20 knife, Don Santiago's navajeros use them to perform ver=F3nicas... ...At the Escuela, the jacket is held by the collar, tightly in the right=20 hand and loosely, if at all, in the left. As a matter of course, keys or=20 coins are kept in the jacket's side pockets to lend weight to its movements. =20 Rather than wait for an attack to intercept it, Santiago's students actively=20 use the jacket to whip and flail at their armed opponent. The jacket is kep= t=20 constantly in motion to lessen the likelihood of it being grabbed. They use=20 it to beat down on the opponent's thrusting arm. They use it to lash out at=20 the opponent's head. They use it to snap into the opponent's face, the eyes=20 being the ideal target... There's more, but I hope that helps. James Loriega New York Ninpokai ------------------------------ From: spudchows@webtv.net (michael cole) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 09:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: DIT DA JOW? HELLO LIST MEMBERS DOES ANYONE HAVE A RECIPE FOR DIT DA JOW? AND MAYBE SOMETHING ESLE THAT WORKS WELL. THANKS KEEEP YOUR STICKS UP M.L. COLE 155 rutherford drive vacaville, ca. 95687-6423 ------------------------------ From: John Frankl Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 14:47:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: eskrima: FMA/JKDConcepts/BJJ in Memphis Dear List Members, A good friend of mine may be moving to Memphis and asked me to see about training possibilities there. Do any of you know of any good instructors (preferably of FMA/JKDConcepts/Brazilian Jiu Jitsu) there? Thanks in advance. John Frankl ------------------------------ From: " " Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 11:50:47 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Great Eskrima Fighters Greatest Eskrima Fighters I am here to discuss the three most popular and, perhaps, greatest Eskrima fighters of all-time. Floro Villabrille, Angel Cabales, and Felicimo Dixon. Feel free to respond with you opinions, arguments or suggestions! Floro Villabrille  The venerable stick-fighting master who fought hundreds of full-contact weapons matches during his lifetime, many of which did not end until one fighter was left incapacitated or dead. Villabrille never lost one of these death matches. He was said to have superhuman strength and could not only punch nails through 2x4s with his bare fists, but then could pull the nail out with his hand. Angel Cabales  He did not believe in long fights. His longest fight was 11 seconds and he nearly killed his opponent. He trained under Dixon and together, they fought and defeated hundreds of opponents. On one occasion, he and Dixon encountered several huge Canadiens and injured them all. Felicisimo Dixon  An undisputed death match champion who was never defeated in combat. He trained and won many fights in dark caves; he also killed sharks with his knife during his nightly swims. Tought Cabales and traveled with him for nearly 20 years fighting together successful always. - --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ From: Dave Huang Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:23:25 PDT Subject: eskrima: Re: GM Bustillo Seminar GM Richard Bustillo is a name well associated with the FMA Community. For those who are new to FMA GM Richard Bustillo, along with Guro Dan Inosanto, were instrumental in the in the popularization of the FMA in the late 60s, early 70s in the United States through the Filipino Kali Academy. GM Bustillo will be conducting a day long seminar on FMA at the IMB Academy on July 10, 1999. Topics will include: Cabales Serrada Escrima, Larga Mano Escrima, and Kali When: July 10, 1999 1:00 pm to 5:00 pm. Where: IMB Academy 22109 Vermont Ave., Torrance Ca. (310) 787-8793 Cost: $45.00 preregistration, $55.00 at the door. Please call and preregister, if there are any questions, call the academy. GM Bustillo is one of the most respected figures in FMA as well as a great teacher. This will be a fun seminar for practitioners of all levels. Dave _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Eric Van Skike Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 19:20:22 PDT Subject: eskrima: Gurkha Knife Training..... a few weeks ago i mentioned an article in Maxim magazine, I was asked about it, and lost the magazine - -eric _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Kevin Davis" Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:29:19 -0700 Subject: [none] >So--anyone else out there with unfortunate experiance of Achilles tendon injury? How long before you could train again? Although I have not personally experienced this injury (and have no desire to) at least two friends have experienced it. (Interestingly enough both are police officers that tore their achilles in short foot chases when they were "cold" i.e.-they jumped out of their crusiers and ran). I picked up a book called "Martial Arts Injuries" by Joseph Estwanik(?)M.D. Dr.Estwanik shows pictures of an achilles tear and explains that the tendon is under "tension" and when the tear occurs the ends may be seperated by a distance (both ends look very similar to a mop head). Dr.Estwanik goes on to explain that there is no way that scar tissue can form because the distance is to great (this apparantly has been a past recommendation-casting and waiting for scar tissue to mend the tendon). In addition scar tissue is subject to retearing. Estwanik's recomendation "surgical repair." Now, my fiance is a physical therapist and she has reminded me that there is a difference between a partial tear and a full tear. Only an orthopod can make a proper diagnoses. Recovery depends on the severity of the injury. The last friend to have this injury is a jiu-jitsu player that has made a full recovery and is back training post surgery and rehab (several months). As an ACL knee reconstruction patient I can attest that 6 months to one year until you feel 100% is not uncommon. Good luck and listen to your doctor, KD ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Jerome Barber" Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:41:09 EST Subject: eskrima: Tom Bolden Summer Camp - July 10 & 11 I would like to inform the readership about PG Tom Bolden's Arnis/Eskrima Summer Camp, which will be held in Poughkeepsie, NY on July 10 & 11. The fee structure is $60 for a single day and $105 for both days. The training times are 10am - 4pm both days. PG Bolden will be teaching the Pancipanci Eskrima System and the topics to be covered include: Basic & Advanced stick fight concepts Knife survival strategies Weapons disarming & retention concepts Specialfootwork and evasion stratagies Reflex. speed & rhythm devlopment For more information you can contact PG Bolden directly at: (914) 471-0742 or by e-mail at either or This camp will also feature a Largo Mano Arnis presentation by PG Eddie Lastra, Chief Instructor of the Sayas-Lastra Arnis System. Camp participants will have an opportunity to compare and contrast the corto range styles of PG Bolden with the largo range style of PG Lastra. This type of comparative instruction is done in most North American and European FMAs camps / seminars. As more information is devloped about the Northern Philippines Arnis systems/styles of Arnis, the true spectrum of this vibrant MA will be realized. I hope that a number of you will consider attending this unique Arnis-Eskrima Camp. This a great opportunity to see and practice two different styles of the FMAs that in fact covers the entire range of combat: Largo, Medio, Corto and Buno/Dumog. ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Jerome Barber" Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:50:10 EST Subject: eskrima: Looking for Yvonne Reiss and Chris Herman I am trying to locate both Dr. Yvonne Reiss and Guro Chris Herman. If anyone can help me get in touch with these folks I would greatly appriciate it. I have two students who are moving to the Boston area in August and September. They both would like to continue their arnis training. I am seeking Dr. Reiss & Guro Herman's input regarding the instructors that they studied the FMAs with in Boston. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Replies can be posted directly to me: Sincerely, Dr. Jerome Barber ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Ill Hello from Bloomington, Illinois. Ray Terry ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #253 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, directory pub/eskrima/digests. 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