From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #262 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Mon, 21 June 1999 Vol 06 : Num 262 In this issue: eskrima: Eskrima in San Jose/Santa Cruz eskrima: Looking for.. eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #260 eskrima: Knife Videos Re: eskrima: Eskrima in San Jose/Santa Cruz eskrima: Greatest Athletes eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: watch dog Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:10:42 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Eskrima in San Jose/Santa Cruz Hi everyone, I'm planning to be in the San Jose/Santa Cruz, California area during the last week of June. Does anyone know of any kali/eskrima/arnis instructors or schools in that general area that would be worth visiting for short private sessions? ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ From: " " Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:13:33 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Looking for.. I'm looking for Dan Inosanto's book - Filipino Martial Arts. Can anyone help? - --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ From: "David Eke" Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:15:34 +1000 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #260 > Concerning undefeated champions: How many islands are there in the RP? > over 7,000? how many languages? over 100? Apart from the near universal > human capacity to improve the truth, it seems to me very easy to understand > that a lot of these guys just didn't meet up I'd have to disagree. Of the 7000 islands only about 2000 are inhabited with about 8 large islands in the Visayas. Many of these fighters came from the Visayas and had large reputations and would have been pretty easy to find if you were really looking. Language in the Visayas is not a problem eventhough there are many dialects they still pretty much understand one another. Even Cebu City has a number of (so called) undefeated champions and having lived there I find it pretty amazing that they didn't run into one another. IMO fighters are competitive and when they compete they want to be the best. Clearly you would seek out opponents with the biggest reputations and fight them. If these guys didn't meet up them I'd suggest there are other reasons apart from geography and language that stopped them. David ------------------------------ From: "BILL MCGRATH" Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:19:00 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Knife Videos Congratulations to all the winners of Allen Sachetti's WKC tournament held this past Saturday and of course special Pekiti-Tirsia kudos to Doug Marcaida's Pekiti-Tirsia group from Rochester, NY. Doug and his group worked extremely hard preparing for this tournament and I would like to extend my thanks for a job well done. Congradulations to: Jason Marcaida 1st Place Espada y Daga Mike Marini 3rd Place Espada y Daga Rich Paszek 1st Place Knife Marc Denny wrote: "PS: BTW a very nice post from Bill McG on complexity and simplicity in knife techniques. Good points, well explained. Bill has been on a bit of a writing streak of late, making many good points. If I may follow up with a question to one of his points? He mentions the knife videos found in the criminals' house and asks the question about how would one feel/what would one say if techniques one had taught in a video were used to bad ends? I confess to an emotional sympathy for the point he is making, but I also recognize a cognitive dissonance in my thinking in that I also reject the proposition that gun makers should be held responsible for the use criminals may make of their product, just as Chevrolet should not be held accountable for a drunken driver killing someone with one of its products (Tangential Q: Are Corvettes the automotive equivalent of so-called "assault" guns I.e. not really automatic, but looking like ones that are? That is, what legal purpose is there for all that speed?) I suspect Bill agrees with me on the point concerning gun manufacturers and their products, yet what is the difference with knife videos? Please understand that the question is genuinely that-- a question. " I don't profess to understand my reasoning on this point all that well myself. While I have accused of being slightly to the right of Attila the Hun, I really consider myself more of a Libertarian with a Conservative bend on social issues. I am as strong a pro-gun person as you are likely to meet. I am a life member of the N.R.A. and have lectured at Columbia University and before the N.Y. City Council on the unconstitutionality and counterproductiveness of gun control as well as written for Police Marksman magazine on the subject. Believe me when I say that I am in full agreement with Marc when it comes to firearms and product liability suits. I guess my stance on not selling knife videos to the general public is analogous to my views on charity. When I pass a truly destitute/hungry person on the street, I feel a strong moral obligation to go into my own pocket and buy them some food, but I also feel an extremely strong repugnance to having the government go into my pocket to buy them some food. I think my views on not selling knife videos has more to do with being able to look at myself in the mirror and know I did the right thing with the knowledge I have rather than any legal obligations. Maybe it's because I have noticed that knife seems to attract a higher percentage of "oddballs" than any of the other FMA weapons (you should see some of the spooky people I have had come up to me after demos asking to learn knife-one lady was right out of central casting for "Fatal Attraction"). The whole subject of knife training is something I am constantly walking a moral tightrope about. I feel that FMA knife work has the most practical modern use of any aspect of FMA that we can offer to the public, yet it is also the area that is most likely to be misused. For example, I would love to do a video on women's self defense with a knife, but how do you keep it out of the hands of potential rapists? How do you get this info to the people who need it the most without it getting into the wrong hands? Any thoughts on the subject would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Tuhon Bill McGrath ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: eskrima: Eskrima in San Jose/Santa Cruz > Hi everyone, > I'm planning to be in the San Jose/Santa Cruz, California area > during the last week of June. Does anyone know of any kali/eskrima/arnis > instructors or schools in that general area that would be worth visiting > for short private sessions? Well, Inayan Eskrima is all over San Jose and the surrounding area. You might contact Suro Mike Inay via his voicemail on 408-304-0806 if you're interesting in inquiring about privates. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: " " Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:54:40 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Greatest Athletes Check this site out to see who the 100 Greatest Athletes of All-Time: http://homepages.go.com/~rcpcpa/100greatestathletesof%20all-time Voice your opinion and let me know if you agree! - --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. 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