From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #277 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Mon, 28 June 1999 Vol 06 : Num 277 In this issue: eskrima: Re: 5 seconds for improvised weapons... eskrima: The Eyes And Accuracy eskrima: Machado Seminar Re: eskrima: The Eyes And Accuracy eskrima: Acuracy eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #276 [none] eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Fulton Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:30:08 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re: 5 seconds for improvised weapons... Roaring Girl writes: <> > at home i would start by throwing one of my cats at attacker's face >(there's usually one draped on or around me) and hope that he (the cat) >would forgive me...;) I love this one! A pissed off, freaked out cat, using their face as a scratching post would certainly buy you some time to better arm yourself, escape, or grab some popcorn and a ringside seat! The cat will probably forgive you, but I can't say the same for the intruder. Hmmm....I wonder if you could hold the maker legally liable in a case like this? Dave Fulton dfulton@computerpackages.com "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'...'til you can find a big stick." ------------------------------ From: "Al \"Got This Fish On The Move\"" Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:40:24 -0400 Subject: eskrima: The Eyes And Accuracy Guro Crafty Dog wrote: "Watch the tip of stick(s) with your eyes when you practice." At first this did not make sense to me but after thinking about it again my interpretation would be "Watch the tip of the stick when it meets your target". My $.02. Respectfully, Al Sardinas Student of Garimot System of Arnis ------------------------------ From: "Grantham, Stephen" Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:50:50 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Machado Seminar Seminar Announcement! Francis Fong Martial Arts Academy in Atlanta, GA will be hosting Jean Jaques Machado on the weekend of August 28 & 29! The seminar will be held from 12:00 - 4:00 both days for a cost of $80 per day or $140 for both days, if postmarked by August 1, 1999. Participation will be limited to 50 people. Don't miss this opportunity to train with this phenomenal grappler! Jean Jaques Machado is one of the 4 instructors from the Legends camp held at Guro Dan Inosanto's academy in June, the others being Guro Dan himself, Ajarn Chai Sirisute (Thai), and Sifu Francis Fong (Wing Chun). For more information or to request a registration form, please call the Academy at (770) 623-8090 between 6:00 pm and 9:30 pm EST. Steve Grantham Francis Fong Martial Arts Academy Atlanta, GA ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: eskrima: The Eyes And Accuracy > Guro Crafty Dog wrote: "Watch the tip of stick(s) with your eyes when you > practice." At first this did not make sense to me but after thinking about > it again my interpretation would be "Watch the tip of the stick when it > meets your target". Sounds like Ted Williams' advice for better hitting... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "BILL MCGRATH" Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:37:03 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Acuracy "How do you develop accuracy with your stick strikes?" I have tried this with my students and it seems to work well. 1.Tie a knot in a rope. Hang it in front of them and have them hit just the knot with the tip of the stick (some tape on the tip of the stick will help with focus). If you could find the right kind of ball to mount on the rope you could turn this into a two-man game of "tether ball". 2. Drill a hole in a post and glue a wooden peg into it. Hit the tip of the peg with the tip of the stick straight in like you are hammering a nail into a wall. 3. This might not be practical for everyone, but it is my favorite just because it was fun. We had a cedar tree that broke in half in a storm, leaving a 6 foot stump. I had students knock just the thin bark off the stump trying not to hit the wood beneath. 4. "Whittle" the tips off twigs with stick strikes (again with just the tip of your stick). 5. I realize most of you probably don't have a forest bordering your backyards so you could try this. Take four old rattans sticks. Lay two of the sticks on the ground separated by 10" and lay some 12" twigs across them making a "ladder" with the twigs the rungs. Lay the remaining two sticks on the ends of the twigs holding them down and tie the ends together to hold the twigs in place. Mount the ladder so that it is parallel to the ground and practice breaking the twigs one at a time with your stick. The dry twigs on the bottom of pines will probably work best. When you are at range and trying to get the maximum reach out of your stick or trying to break small bones like those in your opponents' hand, it is important to hit with the very tip of the stick. Accuracy will help accomplish this. Regards, Tuhon Bill McGrath ------------------------------ From: Jason Inay Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:56:50 PDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #276 From: "Jon Howard" Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:45:17 +0100 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #275 - Hang a what? > ><< I was wondering if anyone has developed any drills or exercises that will >allow a person to train accuracy but with power. >> > >My suggestion would be to hang a De Cuerdas stick. You could start out with >a 6 foot length staff and as you got better you could decrease the length of >the staff if desired. By decreasing the length it will speed up the reaction >of the staff hence helping you to sharpen both your targeting and reaction. >You can also try the numerous variations of the De Cuerdas. You can try >mounting the staff in the middle of a hanging tire thereby giving you a more >solid object to hit. You can hang one short stick in the middle of the main >staff or you can hang two sticks, one at each end of the main staff. If this >isn't enough, get a couple of machete blades, dull them down a bit and then >mount them on each end of the staff. Forgive my ignorance on this subject, but is this meant as some kind of training dummy / striking target, could somebody (anybody) post a little more info on this tool, how it's made - used etc... TIA Jon... Jon, and fellow ED'rs What Rob is reffering to is something that the Inayan System of Eskrima has used for years to train it's people.Essentialy it is a Staff that is suspended from above by first a rope and then a bungee or shock cord. When balanced properly this supplies you with, as far as I know, the only training implement out there that will hit you back. Hit one side and the other comes a swinging. It can also stab you too, ooh what fun!!! Rob also mentioned that you can put sticks, knives, or machetes at the ends or the center. Each feature of course has it's advantages and it's disadvantages. Once you have the apparatus suspended, have a whack at it. If you get a few of your friends together and circle around it. Being that it is a pendulum, albeit a violent one, it will go crazy with more than one person. Just make sure you keep your Guard up and protect your face. The nice part is you can hit it as hard as you like and you can only hurt yourself, rather than a moving partner. Contact me directly if that is not clear enough. Guro29 Jason Inay _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Kevin Davis" Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:07:06 -0700 Subject: [none] Reference the ongoing thread about women's self-defense: The points about the mental aspects of ladies protecting themselves have been well made. The problems that I have run into (and I'm sure some of you have) is that a self-defense course has to be really intensive and prolonged to overcome some women's lifetime of conditioning by family and society to avoid confrontation, be submissive, be feminine and to dislike hard physical contact. I am not demeaning those ladies on the ED that train hard, enjoy the contact and have the "amazon warrior" mindset. I still believe it's true that most stranger rapists (non date-rape) are not armed and initially attack their victims by a punch or slap with verbals threats and domination thrown in. The victim who in most cases has not been hit hard before is shocked and never "recovers" to defend herself. *An interesting video was made several years ago by a training group in New York "Modern Warrior"as part of a Japenese talk show's journalist time in the Big Apple she attended a woman's self-defense course at Modern Warrior. Apparantly Japanese ladies are raised and encultered to be even more submissive than American ladies. Anyhow the tape shows the internal turmoil that this lady had to go through to learn to fight back. **Now my nineteen year old daughter has informed me that her age group and younger is different. She believes that because society has changed and it's now okay for ladies to be aggressive most young women will fight back. A self-defense point for men is some of these young female gangsters now-a-days will cut your throat in a moment and are "more" aggressive than men. (IMHO it still has alot to do with how the lady was raised. Which brings up an interesting question of how you raise a feminine daughter who can/will fight back?) Now to the legal aspects of women's self-defense: Because it is a fairly accurate statement that most 14-15 year old males have more upper body strength than an adult female, women should not tie-up with men unless forced to. Remote controls like OC spray, sticks, and knives give the lady the ability to stay out of trapping or grappling range. In law enforcement we use a teaching/evaluation tool called "force continuums" which show the relationship between the suspects resistance and the officer's use of force. Even female police officers are by-and-large allowed to use more force than a male officer in similar circumstances. It is an interesting point that the standard for police officers in use of force in this country is "objective reasonableness" and that law abiding citizens in this country do not have to use this standard and as long as they are the victim of the attack and stop their counter-assault when the assailant is no longer a threat, this disparity of force concept is valid. (To put it bluntly you may hit him with a stick or cut him with a knife to defend yourself. However, once he's down on the ground and no longer a threat you can't slash his throat.) *After the assault get out of Dodge, call 911, and be phone your attorney if you use a knife. It is still true that in most jurisdictions a knife is still looked upon as a "thug's" weapon. *However you may, even if you're an innocent victim, depending on the jurisdiction, have to prove your innocence in court with the aid of an attorney. By-the-way most attorneys are really weak in this area. My two cents, KD PS - Tuhon Bill make the video. Good law abiding ladies need this type of info more than the "way, way out" chance some miscreant may get his hands on it. BTW even those good ladies are going to have to train hard to make those tactics and techniques work under stress. "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." Thomas Jefferson ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #277 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.