From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #281 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Thurs, 1 July 1999 Vol 06 : Num 281 In this issue: eskrima: response eskrima: First the guns, then the tire knockers eskrima: Women and self awareness... eskrima: Schools in Sarasota, Fl eskrima: FMA instructors in the Champaign/Urbana area? eskrima: learning the basics eskrima: clarification eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #278 eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SReiter000@aol.com Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 00:43:46 EDT Subject: eskrima: response >Once you have the apparatus suspended, have a whack at it. If you get a few of your friends together and circle around it. Being that it is a pendulum, albeit a violent one, it will go crazy with more than one person. Just make sure you keep your Guard up and protect your face. The nice part is you can hit it as hard as you like and you can only hurt yourself, rather than a moving partner. Contact me directly if that is not clear enough. guro dan tells a story of training this way- his also stated that he hit the sticks so hard that the opposing side stick hit him in the back of the head rendering him unconscious and was found laying in his backyard by his daughter dianna -- so be careful >A Howl etc: > > Creighton asked what I thought was a real good question about developing >accuracy. With the kind of self-honesty demonstrated, he should go far. I >like the other offerings in this regard and would like to add the >following: Watch the tip of stick(s) with your eyes when you practice. >This is incredibly simple, yet it is also incredible how few people do >this. > >Woof, >Crafty Marc - you know I'm the last one to be critical, and i certainly dont mean to be adversarial, however, do you REALLY think keeping on eye on your stick is a good idea? especially when training with a partner that you dont want to injure - maybe if you watched where you where swing you wouldn't hit (YOU KNOW WHO) - lol - when giving you priviates (refer to comments made in class) Guro Doug Marcaida has a excellent training method he developed (i believe) - - he has his students do technical sparring - he takes round stickers and places them on vital stops on the sparrers body's and the students can only hit )with soft sticks those dots - wise the points dont count - they wear armor while doing this so they can get off good shots - and it teaches them to aim. steve reiter ------------------------------ From: kirk_righter@peoplesoft.com Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 16:07:09 GMT Subject: eskrima: First the guns, then the tire knockers <> Well, as someone in favor of gun control and an FMA instructor, perhaps I'm qualified to answer this. While I don't believe in the banning of all guns, I certainly do believe that there should be rather strict controls as far as what kinds of weapons Joe Average Citizen should be allowed to own and who is considered Joe Average Citizen (parolees and mental patients don't get to be Joes, for example). I don't believe Joe should be allowed to own landmines, flamethrowers, or fully automatic weapons. I also believe in background checks. The NRA, on the other hand, has everyone believing that ANY control will open the floodgates and pretty soon we'll all be marched into death camps because we're not armed with machine guns with which to defend ourselves. I certainly DO believe in the right of self defense, and as a matter of fact constantly find myself aggravated by the hypocritical attitude of police officers who, having arrived late on the scene of a crime where the victim lies dead, responds to critics by saying 'hey, we can't be everywhere at once. You've got to take care of yourself sometimes'. But, when Joe Average Citizen DOES excercise his right to self defense, finds himself in cuffs and looking at serious jail time. As far as other types of weapons, I think these should be controlled to a certain extent. I don't know if I want to see everybody walking around with machetes, but I have a real problem with the law here in California that doesn't allow me to carry a stick in my car. (I happen to have a lead weighted hickory 'tire knocker' which I use to check my tire pressure, just like truckers use. Yes officer, I prefer this method to a tire gauge ;-) ) The problem I have with pro-gunners is that they lack the imagination to avoid an all-out, balls-to-the-wall approach to fighting any sort of gun control, instead of using their voting power and technical expertise to come up with sensible legislation. It's much easier to just use brute force and take the "simple solutions to complex problems" approach and follow Chuckie Heston's lead, which in a nutshell is this: Let everybody own anything they want, and put 'em in jail after they've broken the law. My response to that is, what about the guy who's dead? You can't bring him back. The bottom line is this: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is first and foremost, and outranks all the amendments to the Constitution, and I ain't happy when my next door neighbor with the full auto AK has just been told by his wife that she would rather take the kids and move in with her rumba instructor. Kirk ------------------------------ From: Ted Truscott Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:12:11 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Women and self awareness... I'd like to plug my friend's new book: "Total Awareness: a woman's safety book" by Darren and Beth Laur, from Sono Nis Press, ISBN 1-55039-098-8 sononis@islandnet.com/~sononis/ Chapter's include: Who attacks and why Be street safe Your stratedies - don't be a target The street interview Basics of escape, attracting attention etc. Everyday safety - home target hardening, home invasion, autotheft, car jackings, ATM, elevators etc, etc, stalking, date rape, roofies etc Resources include Animal, Gavin De Becker and Loren Christensen This is a very complete overview of the topic of awareness and how to avoid getting into trouble and would be a useful addition to any martial arts teacher who is interested in this aspect for his / her students...although written for women, it is useful for us all and I specifically use it in my seniors classes. ------------------------------ From: Jon Skelley Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 13:20:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: eskrima: Schools in Sarasota, Fl Hello all I will be in Sarasota, Florida at the end of July and was wondering if anyone on the list knew of a good place to train? On a side note, I would like to thank whoever it was that posted the books by Gavin DeBecker and John Douglas. I am currently reading The Gift of Fear and it is very interesting. Jon Skelley ------------------------------ From: Just This Guy Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 13:08:44 -0500 (CDT) Subject: eskrima: FMA instructors in the Champaign/Urbana area? Title says it all, I am looking for FMA, preferably Kali, in the Champaign, Illinois area. I'm moving there shortly and I want to make sure I have a Kali school. Best regards, Steve B ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: learning the basics > background checks. The NRA, on the other hand, has everyone believing that > ANY control will open the floodgates and pretty soon we'll all be marched > into death camps because we're not armed with machine guns with which to > defend ourselves. Wrong again. The NRA has been in favor of point-of-sale (POS) background checks for years and has proposed legislation to that effect. And 'machine guns' have been very strickly controled since the National Firearms Act of 1934. Learn the facts if you wish to be even slightly effective in debating this issue, or any other... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:30:02 -0700 Subject: eskrima: clarification A Howl etc: Doc F wrote: > Creighton asked what I thought was a real good question about developing >accuracy. With the kind of self-honesty demonstrated, he should go far. I >like the other offerings in this regard and would like to add the >following: Watch the tip of stick(s) with your eyes when you practice. >This is incredibly simple, yet it is also incredible how few people do >this. > >Woof, >Crafty I came in late to this thread and it caught my eye. I may have missed the whole point of this thread but...Crafty you watch the tip of the stick under what conditions? I Have never watched the tip nor do I watch the edge of a blade for that matter. I have tip and edge "awareness" however. Perhaps my thinking on this is Guro I's early statements to me as a rookie to watch a slower portion of the weapon/arm whatever and be aware of the rest of the weapon. , , ," ENDQUOTE Sorry for the ambiguity. What I mean is when one is stroking, that one should see where the stick is going. For example, choose an precise object in front of you-- a smudge on the wall, whatever. Have the tip of your stick when you swing go "through" that smudge. Apply the principle. HTH. C. ------------------------------ From: Shawn Albert Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 12:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #278 > From: Michael Koblic > Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:59:12 -0700 > Subject: eskrima: Cat flap > > Roaring Girl wrote: > >at home i would start by throwing one of my cats at attacker's face > >(there's usually one draped on or around me) and hope that he (the cat) > >would forgive me...;) > > > > I must disagree here. Surely most experienced martial artists will tell you > *never* to throw your weapon away! I would advise to grasp the said cat > firmly by the tail and swing it either in a circular motion around your head > (provided there is, indeed, room to swing a cat) or advance on the attacker > using a figure of 8 motion. From your post I gather that you have more than > one cat, in which case a siniwali move of some sort would seem in order. > > Mike Koblic, > 3rd Degree in Cat-One-Do > Quesnel BC Hello. I've been hanging out on this list for a while, but now I just have to comment on this one. While i agree that if someone is attacking you with the intent to kill you, I personally see no problem with doing this, just don't let anyone from the SPCA see this post, or it'll probably be lawsuit city. Shawn Albert Maine _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 15:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #281 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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