From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #295 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Thurs, 15 July 1999 Vol 06 : Num 295 In this issue: eskrima: Cabales Clip eskrima: Heads up! eskrima: Re: videoclip1:CabalesLast interview:mpeg from Khalid Khan eskrima: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #294 eskrima: Khalid's video clip eskrima: Re: videoclip eskrima: Re:Sayoc Kali Seminar Aug 8th...NY eskrima: Re: That intrusive vid clip eskrima: RE: Video clip eskrima: Cabales Serrada Eskrima Videoclips eskrima: Re: video clip eskrima: Re: Cebu addresses Re: eskrima: Re: That intrusive vid clip eskrima: . .......................................................................... Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "big Joe A." Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:34:49 PDT Subject: eskrima: Cabales Clip Hi all, I too recieved the e-mailed mpeg file. I checked it out. It isn't loaded with a virus and it is exactly what it says it is. It shows Angel Cabales doing a few counters. It is really poorly shot and very, very distorted. I too was surprised to recieve it but then I remembered receiving an e-mail about two months ago informing me about video clips of serrada that someone had and was going to send out. I no longer have that original E-mail so I am assuming that this is what they were talking about. I did get a nastygram from my provider about my account size being to big. But oh well, I'll get over it. Bye for now, Big Joe _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Drew Zimba Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Heads up! (Ray, apologies in advance for this post.) E-D list members: I have been alerted by a friend that lurks on rec-m.a. that someone with a name similar to mine is causing trouble on that newsgroup. FYI, I do not post to or lurk on rec-m.a. and have nothing to do with their nonsense. For those of you who do interact with rec-m.a., please pass this fact along. Also, please keep me informed (by private e-mail) of any more such occurrences. Thanks in advance, Drew Zimba _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: David Fulton Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:03:06 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re: videoclip1:CabalesLast interview:mpeg from Khalid Khan At 12:24 PM 7/14/99 -0700, Mike Casto wrote: > > >Fortunately, Yahoo Mail also has a "Block Address" >feature. I blocked Khalid directly a month or so ago. >This particular mail was from someone else (or at >least a different e-mail address), so now I've blocked >it too. > >>From my experiences with Khalid (primarily reading >some of what he's posted on RMA), I don't know that >e-mailing him and complaining would do any good (in >fact, it may incite him to send even more junk). > Maybe simultaneous F*CK OFF! messages from every member of the ED would get the message into Khalid's thick head. How many people are on the ED now Ray? He he he he ;o) Actually, I just remembered that Eudora Pro has adjustable 'filters'. I *think* I just set mine so that any message from: mabugti@cyber.net.pk will go directly into my trash can. It's not as good as a "block address" feature, but between that & the fact that I have Eudora set to delete all attachments when I exit, I shouldn't have to deal with Mr. Farhan Badar in the future. Now I just need to test the filter. By the way, does anyone have Khalid's email address? It sounds like I should filter him out too. ------------------------------ From: Sunny Graff <105605.2047@compuserve.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:19:00 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #294 Nachricht geschrieben von INTERNET:eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com > RE: videoclip1:CabalesLast interview:mpeg from > Khalid Khan > I recognise the name from discussions on the list > but Khalid Khan cant > Personally I like to be asked before getting sent > this. Anyone else > affected?< I got it and opened it (I wasn=B4t at work and maybe I=B4m just naive...b= ut I wasn=B4t savy enough to worry about a virus...but now I am worried) It=B4= s just a short video of Cabales (I assume) doing some defensive techniques. My computer doesn=B4t have sound, so I don=B4t know if he was trying to sell= me something. I was one of the 13 addresses previously listed. I assume he g= ot them off the Digest. Sunny Thanks for the tips on training in Cebu! ------------------------------ From: JYCHOW@au.oracle.com Date: 15 Jul 99 09:32:40 +1000 Subject: eskrima: Khalid's video clip Guys, All this talking about Khalid being controversial (previous mails, death touch...genies...etc) has got me curious. What is so 'fearful' about this chap? What is in the video clip that he is so keen to tell people about? I think I am missing something here. Anyone care to tell us? Private email, if you don't want to excite/bore the list members. :) :) Cheers! John Chow ------------------------------ From: szorn@webtv.net (STEVE ZORN) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:37:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: eskrima: Re: videoclip What I can't understand is why some people criticize others for wanting to spread the art of Eskrima. Although alot of people may not agree with Khalid or his ways he is still trying to spread the art so that it will continue to grow and expand. He continuously sends me e-mail regarding various aspects of Eskrima including rare clips of Grandmaster Cabales which I am pleased to get as I never had the chance to meet the Grandmaster or see him in action. I realize that there is more footage of Grandmaster Cabales floating around out there but most of the people with access to this footage seem to hoard it. I am pleased to see that Khalid Khan is releasing this footage free to all who are interested. Steve ------------------------------ From: JeffSensei@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:44:24 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re:Sayoc Kali Seminar Aug 8th...NY KNIFE FIGHTING SEMINAR on Long Island, New York Greetings all!! Tuhon Chris Sayoc will be presenting a knife training seminar here on Long Island, in Bellmore...August 8th, 1999. The seminar will be held at: J. Chung's Karate 2870 Merrick Road Bellmore, New York 11710 (516) 409-9001 relax, the place is nicely air-conditioned!! :-) Please do not miss this rare opportunity to learn real skills of knife defense and knife training. August 8, 1999 Sunday, 10:00am to 3:00pm with 1 hour break $60 prepaid by August 5 and $75 at the door To pre-register, your $60 must be received by August 5, 1999 Feel free to call with any questions: Directions: Meadowbrook Pkwy South to exit m9E...Merrick Road towards Merrick...go straight down Merrick Road about 2 to 2.5 miles...see Dunkin Donuts on right hand side, slow down!!, 1 block past it, on the right hand side, turn into the parking lot. Wantagh Parkway South to Merrick Road West, Bellmore direction...after getting off the parkway, go .3 miles on Merrick Road, turn left into the parking lot. Southern State Parkway to Route 106 South towards Bellmore. Continue on Newbridge Road to Merrick Road, make a left turn...go 1.1 mile, just past the Dunkin Donuts on the right hand side, turn into the parking lot where the Karate school is. C'yall there!! thank you for allowing me to post this...very respectfully submitted...Jeff Chung/NY ------------------------------ From: "Jesse & Anne Greenawalt" Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:21:20 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re: That intrusive vid clip I was one of a different 19: hc1358@yahoo.com ; jmfrankl@fas.harvard.edu ; tcsno@aol.com ninjoe@hotmail.com ; jkd@gte.net bandalan@lugani.com ; lonpolla@mdcc.edu ; loki@cecm.sfu.ca ; edwhlam@yahoo.com ; nanun@my-dejanews.com ; tdr6942@inreach.com; gary808@eudoramail.com ; bojak@dilbert.physik.uni-dortmund.de ; tellner@cs.pdx.edu ; leighans@aol.com ; inayan@conc.tds.net ; swolk@nexstar.com ; dlw@wingchun.com Aren't we all members of this list? And can't you request list members' e-mail addresses from Majordomo? One way to get a well-targeted spam... jester ------------------------------ From: "Bill Lowery" Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 02:08:32 PDT Subject: eskrima: RE: Video clip Hi All, The tech guy at work states that it is not possible to get a virus from a mpeg attachment. The only way to do that would be to call the virus something such as ".EXE" and then the mpeg player wouldn't recognise it and so would not play it. I've played the clip and its a good view of how the man moved. Bill billlowery@excite.com _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Al \"Got This Fish On The Move\"" Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:08:30 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Cabales Serrada Eskrima Videoclips Members, I can vouch for all the Videoclips that Master Khalid Khan has sent. No viruses, just pieces of history that contribute to the greatness and mastery of Angel Cabales. Because I use a lan connection at work, I can download the largest of these files in seconds. Master Sultan Uddin of IESA and other students are depicted in these clips. The clips that I have in my possession are: 1. (1.04 MB) KHALID/Asgher: Advanced Flow drill format showing Serrada counter for counter method, with Khalid Khan and Asgher Khan. 2. (460 KB) KIMBALL/Preciado: Guro Sultan Uddin Kimball Joyce and Jerry Preciado showing basic counter. 3. (763KB) Cabales/GARRY1: GM Angel Cabales and Garry Bowlds, showing Serrada Flow counter for counter method. 4. (623KB) Cabales/KIMBALL: Sultan Uddin Kimball Joyce showing fast Lock & Block with GM Angel Cabales throwing the attacks. 5. (641KB) Cabales/GARRY2: Guro Garry Bowlds showing his method of Lock & Block with GM Angel Cabales throwing the attacks. 6. (386KB) Cabales/PRECIADO: Guro Jerry Preciado showing his method of Lock & Block with GM Angel Cabales throwing the attacks. 7. (1.35 MB) Cabales Last Interview/Demo - Grandmaster Angel Cabales Last Interview before his passing away in March 1991. A videotaped of his actions showing double-double counter against strike no. 3, Rising Sun technique, Largo Mano technique, etc. (at the Gong Li Restaurant in Stockton). 8. (2.4MB) - Khalid Khan sinawali drill 9. (1.01 MB) - KHALID/Asgher: Hand to hand eskrima with Khalid Khan and Asgher Khan. Respectfully, Al Sardinas Student of Garimot System of Arnis ------------------------------ From: "Ernie Aragon, Jr." Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:59:18 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Re: video clip I got the said video clip too. Not being wary enough, I opened it and found out that it is a clip of Angel Cabales demonstrating some techniques. I don't know if it has a virus, though. Anyway, it was a treat to see Angel Cabales since I only see him through pictures and not in action. I don't, however, appreciate receiving unsolicited mail especially since a large file and internet time is still expensive here. Ernie Aragon, Jr. ------------------------------ From: "Steven Drape" Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 06:11:32 PDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Cebu addresses >I'm going to the Phillipines for two weeks in August and will mainly >be in >Cebu. Could anyone give me the adresses or telephone numbers of >Arnis/Eskrima/Kali schools, teachers or practitioners on Cebu? I'm >particularly interested in training in Balintawak. I've been living in Cebu for the past few years and have quite a few addresses scattered around the city. I'm in a cafe today, so I don't have them with me. I will post some on my next trip here, probably over the weekend. Steve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:32:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: eskrima: Re: That intrusive vid clip > Aren't we all members of this list? And can't you request list members' > e-mail addresses from Majordomo? Yes, I suspect all are members of this list. No, one cannot request a list of the list's e-mail addrs from -my- majordomo. I hacked it to not allow that, for obvious reasons. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #295 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.