From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #316 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sat, 31 July 1999 Vol 06 : Num 316 In this issue: eskrima: Popliteus eskrima: IsoMaxx eskrima: Regulation of Martial Arts eskrima: re: certification eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #315 eskrima: Re: license thing eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kalki Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:54:01 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Popliteus Whoa man am I ever sorry!:-) Mebbe being at work puts a different dent in my hat or something. Maybe it's the heat (somebody help, I need an excuse ovah heeyuh!). NEway, I was thinking of the popliteal fossa, the back of the knee. It's actually the gastrocs that cross there and it's sometimes a crucial limit for people trying to stretch the hamstrings. One thing to examine to bolster the reasoning behind stretching the smaller muscles first: Which muscles complain the quickest when attempting to stretch small and large ones at the same time? Also, just try it. Stretch the calf and all of its deeper muscles, then do your hamstring stretches and notice the diff. The better you stretch the lower leg muscles, the better will be the hamstring stretch. Not to forget ... must stretch the hip flexors equally as much if not moreso than the hamstrings. Be well, Mik ------------------------------ From: Kalki Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 00:00:09 -0500 Subject: eskrima: IsoMaxx The IsoMaxx is a cool tool. I used to use one in every post-training stretching session. One thing to be careful of though, is stress on the medial knee. It's possible to try to go too far too fast. If you rush this kind of stretching the stress is going to be taken by the weakest joint. The knee joint is weaker than the hip joint. The medial collateral ligaments can stretch, yielding pain and a decrease in knee stability. Go slow in developing ranges of motion. Be well, Mik ------------------------------ From: Kalki Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 00:03:53 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Regulation of Martial Arts Might be helpful to review what happened to martial arts in China, i.e., government regulation and control. ------------------------------ From: DblDog77@aol.com Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:13:04 EDT Subject: eskrima: re: certification in the last issue of Escrima Digest Crafty quoted someone saying "....and be qualified in the art they claim to teach". This I have a big problem with for two reasons. 1) Who decides if you are qualified in your art. I happen to study an extreamly rare style of kung fu known as the hong. I can count all the people who teach it on one hand. Does that mean my Sifu can not teach anymore. thats just rediculous. 2) I myself am developing a system. Who can certify that, me? c'mon lets get real here. The martial arts just like any other industry has its bad apples but does that mean you make it harder on the good ones. And most are good. however that is just my own oppinion. if anyone dissagrees e-mail me instead of starting an argument over the list. my email is Dbldog77@aol.com ------------------------------ From: AnimalMac@aol.com Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:53:41 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #315 In a message dated 7/31/99 3:34:45 AM !!!First Boot!!!, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > They are attempting to weed out those with a criminal history, those who are > not qualified, and those of, as they say, "questionable character". I would > like to see this happen on the basis of the last point alone. >> From Animal Well I'm reamed. Still more importantly "Who decides?" All issues about who decides what constitutes a "questionable character" aside, we come back to the inevitable problem of the qualifications of those who sit upon a board to decide what qualifications others should have. I teach a silat based martial art. I'm in Colorado where you can't throw a tonfa without hitting a karate or tkd player. Most of them have never heard of silat. The public really goes "huh'? So who decides who is fit to teach based on competency? Most of the TKDers I have met have no idea how to judge what I do. In fact, I hate to say this, many of the commerical school produced black belts I have met don't have a clue as to the criteria of what makes an effective combat art. Their focus is sports and tradition. What do I have to do, break their arms to show that indeed I am teaching a martial art? I honestly don't beleive they think I am. Beside the chance of instructions bias (nah that will never happen) anytime you have a regulatory committee you create a support bureaucracy that sucks money. Remember folks, a camel is a racehorse built by a committee. > Note the pedestal notion underlying this: Women are to weak, fragile, naive, etc. to decide with whom they will sleep. Not the ones I know. >Anyway, you think this is something a regulatory regime can deal with?!? A bueracrat is less likely to hit on women than a martial arts instructor ? > Carry liability insurance? Who the hell would insure what I do??? Whle common sense and nasty experience tends to make instructors lean toward having insurance. If you make it mandatory you open a can of worms. I might point to the current HMO mess for what that can do to the quality of service. What is done isn't decided by the doctor, but by the insurance company. Do we let insurance adjustor dictate what we do and don't teach? My god, what a wonderful way to dilute the martial arts even more than they already have. "You can't teach these moves because they are too dangerous?" If you don't think insurance companies telling you what you can and can't do is a reality, then you have never dealt with mandatory insurance requirements. Add to that state to state insurance rules and regulations vary widely. Insisting on insurance puts it into the hands of the company. A few years ago in CA it was nearly impossible to get medical insurance because the companies were stalling until a conflict between themselves and the state was resolved. They just didn't write any new policies and turned people down for the most petty bueracratic reasons. And that left a lot of people flapping in the wind, uninsured and unprotected. That's bad enough without making them criminals for being uninsured. Oh yeah, this from my wife who works for a state legislative think tank that covers issues in all 50 states. Mandatory insurance ALWAYS jacks the rates up. Every state that has it the prices go up. It's almost a collusion thing with the insurance companies. As much as I hate to quote the crooked SOB I have to point your attention to the statement made by Lyndon B Johnson: "When deciding to pass a law we must not only consider the good it will do if applied correctly, but the damage it will do if incorrectly applied." And let's not forget the study from Florida that looked at the idea of regulating martial arts schools they decided, nah, it's too much of a can of worms. Besides if the behavior wasn't flat out criminal and therefore subject to those laws, they were consumer advocate issues and subject to the states business laws. ------------------------------ From: info@kalieskrima.com Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 13:27:50 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re: license thing Hi Y'all, I have been off the digest for a month or so. This bill thing is silly and probably wouldn't pertain to a lot of people on this list if it does get passed. I've seen more backyard groups in FMA than store front studios. We'd just get covert about training, and go about our business. Other options might be to offer cultural Filipino dance classes, or stick aerobics ala Billy Blanks. If you look at martial arts history, when government forced people to stop training, people found a way to do it anyway. My new site is www.kalieskrima.com where I offer rattan sticks, on line purchasing, and even a commission for referrals. - --- See you in the sticks, Dale ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #316 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com in directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan System of Eskrima, Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.