From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #329 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Mon, 9 Aug 1999 Vol 06 : Num 329 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #328 eskrima: Re: IESA folks eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #328 eskrima: Serrada in the SF Bay Area eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan Eskrima, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Masson" Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 07:36:02 PDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #328 >I was thinking of trying out FMA, and live in Winnipeg, Manitoba, >Canada. >My phone book lists one place, "Sikaran Arnis", on Arlington >Street, but I >do not know if there are any others. >If anyone on the FMA list knows of any other places (or can tell me >more >about this one), I'd appreciate some insight. Tim, Your have Peter Lee and I green with Envy! As it happens you are sitting on top of a GREAT school. Peter and I have been fortunate enough to train with Gilles Jaillet who is a third degree Black Belt in Arnis (They adopted the Belt System) from the Sikaran Arnis school. I beleive the head instructor is Dante Ulumbra. I have been training in a number of different systems of the Phillipine Arts and love and appreciate the diversity of this family of arts. But I was particularly impressed with the way that this particular school of Arnis has structured it's curriculum. It is well planned and builds upon practical skills so the students really get a solid foundation of hand and foot movements as well as practical techniques. Because of it's location there is a lot of RCMP officers who train there and their "pragmatism" helps the school greatly. I highly recommend going to check out the school and trying out a few classes. Regards, Rob Masson Boston, MA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Mike Casto Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Re: IESA folks I'd like to chime in about IESA folks. While I was in SF for work, I had the pleasure of meeting and working some with Jun Galicha, Alvin Albano, and some of their students. Unfortunately, Master Uddin wasn't there while I was. However, the IESA guys I met were all very cool and very open. We played some and traded some ideas. It was a very enjoyable time for me and I hope that they enjoyed my company as much as I did theirs. I know that a couple of them are on this list, and I wish the the best and look forward to meeting them again the next time we're in the same area :-) Mike _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:30:26 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #328 A Howl etc: It was written: > Here is how it was explained to me from my JKDC instructor. Bruce Lee gave > out 3 (or possibly 4) JKD Instructor certificates (Danny Inosanto, and Taki > Kamira are the ones I remember specifically. Since I am responsible for some of the inaccurate perceptions out there on this point, I feel obliged to clean up. Several years back there was an editor at one of the CFW magazines who was stirring up the JKDC/JKD pot and I wrote something that appeared as a "Guest Editorial" and in it I garbled the matter of Instructor certificates and certificates in JKD. When I was informed oh so gently of my error, I promptly wrote in to the magazine, which for reasons unknown to me, declined to print it. However, huffy letters from students and associates of the person I had inadvertently slighted were printed. No doubt this was good for circulation, and for stimulating the gratitude of the aggrieved to the editor for allowing them to defend their honor. So, for the record (I think I have it right this time!): Three people received instructor certificates: Taki Kimura, whose certificate was in Jun Fan Gung Fu (his training with BL was prior to the term "JKD") the late James Lee, and Dan Inosanto. Three people received certificates in JKD: James Lee, Ted Wong, and Dan Inosanto. Ted Wong's certificate was not an instructor's certificate. (Think of the difference between a college graduate and a college professor) The only living person with an instructor's certificate in JKD from BL is Dan Inosanto, whom I have read in print to have referred to Ted Wong as a JKD instructor. I am sick of JKD politics but since I may bear some of the responsibility for this confusion I felt obliged to speak up. Woof, Crafty Dog PS: While I'm cleaning things up, in another piece of mine that was published in one of the rounds of the JKD wars, I stated that the only change Guro Inosanto had made to Jun Fan was removing the pendulum footwork. Naturally the classical JKD crowd was in a snit and one would read things such as seminar reviews of Ted Wong mentioning how much he had focused on the pendulum footwork. A couple of years went by and one night Guro I. was talking about the pendulum footwork in Jun Fan. Surprised, I asked him about it, saying I thought it had been taken out. He explained that his point had been that against a Thai boxer you might get both your legs kicked out from under you by a good Thai boxer in the instant when both feet were together. But he had decided that the technique had merit nevertheless and that therefore he was putting it back in. I reflected a moment and asked him if it had ever been taken out. A gentle smile and a shake of the head. Translation: I had f$%^ed up and he had waited two years for the right moment to tell me. No matter the aggravation and swirl of politics my misinterpretation of something he had said had caused him, in no way would he undercut me in public. At this point, there was no point in writing the magazine to correct. And so out there in classical JKD land there is this mistaken understanding on the part of some, due to my error, that Guro Inosanto removed the pendulum footwork. No, he never did. He just has a knuckleheaded student who he wouldn't criticize in public who interpreted too broadly something he had said. Forward! ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Serrada in the SF Bay Area The next time folks are in the SF area you should also check out GM Vincent Cabales, the Grandmaster of Cabales Serrada Escrima, and Suro Mike Inay, the Grandmaster of the Inayan System of Eskrima (of which Inayan Serrada is a part). Both are only a very short drive from San Francisco. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 17:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #329 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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