From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #330 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Tues, 10 Aug 1999 Vol 06 : Num 330 In this issue: eskrima: Special Forces soldiers get knife and blade combat training eskrima: Gaje, Arnis, Kali eskrima: Boar's Tusks eskrima: JKD, JKDC eskrima: West Senica N.Y seminar eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #328 eskrima: Re: FMA (esp. Sikaran Arnis) in Winnipeg eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan Eskrima, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Enrique Acosta Jr." Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:00:22 -0600 Subject: eskrima: Special Forces soldiers get knife and blade combat training > >Special Forces soldiers get knife and blade combat training > > by Spc. Daniel L. Savolskis > > FORT BRAGG, N.C. (Army News Service, Dec. 30, 1997) -- First-hand > accounts of survival situations frequently reveal the value of > realistic training. Soldiers rely on their skills to succeed during > crises, requiring them to continually train during times of peace. > > Soldiers from Company C, 2nd Battalion, 7th Special Forces Group > (Airborne), received that training during an advanced knife and blade > combat course, recently. The one-week course was designed to increase > survivability during knife and blade combat. It was taught by Norris > Domangue, Hackman-Domangue Martial Arts Program, and co-developed by > Ray Parra, Academy of Martial Arts Kali/ Salat and Jun Fan. > > Domangue explained the complexities of knife and blade combat. "The > whole concept of knife combat is a real science," he said. "There are > the angles, different techniques and combinations of each to consider. > It's an art form, not just slashing and jabbing around with the > weapon. It's important to overcome the fear of the weapon and gain the > confidence to adapt to the situation." > > The course covered a broad range of techniques, designed specifically > for highly-trained soldiers like those in Special Forces. It was > broken into eight areas: grips and draws, grappling and grabs, > long-range fighting, mid-range fighting, close-range fighting, ground > fighting, knife techniques and long-blade, or machete, techniques. > > During each step of the course, Domangue stressed correct technique. > "Paying attention to the details during this initial stage means > success and survival in a real situation," he continued. "After all, > surviving and continuing is the key to success and the goal of any > mission." > > Company C Commander, Maj. James Campbell, agreed that courses like > this translate into force protection. > > "Special Forces soldiers require combative training based on their > missions, operational areas and the current international > environment," he said. "Our soldiers are expected to possess a high > degree of mental toughness, self-confidence and esprit de corps. This > training provides soldiers with not only physical, but also, mental > skills necessary to complete the mission. > > "It's important that we maintain our skills," Campbell continued. > "Force protection is a very high priority in today's Army and that's > why we conducted this course. It's excellent training." > > (Editor's note: Savolskis is with the U.S. Army Special Operations > Command's public affairs office at Fort Bragg, N.C.) > > > ------------------------------ From: "BILL MCGRATH" Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:24:32 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Gaje, Arnis, Kali Rocky asked. "When did GM Gaje first use the term Kali?" From the time I started training with Tuhon Gaje I remember him using Arnis and Kali interchangeably to describe the FMA's in general and Pekiti-Tirsia to refer to his family art. He used to tell us that the original name for all bladed arts in the Philippines was "Kali" and he described the name coming from the Hindu "goddess of violence" rather than from the Sanskrit "Kalis" or "sword" (personally I like the Sanskrit explanation better). I got the impression that he used the term Arnis to align with NARAPHIL (National ARnis Association of the PHILippines) in Manila, but preferred Kali mainly because of its older, non-Spanish origin. He didn't use the term "Eskrima" but I think this was to distinguish his art from those from other rival islands in the Vasayas who did use the term. He also gave the origin of the term "Arnis de Mano" as deriving from "Armas de Mano" or "Armor of the hands" instead of the more commonly heard explanation "Harness of the hands". Often the terms he would emphasize during a public demo depended what point he was trying to make with the audience and which weapon he was using at the time. He dreamed of uniting all FMAs in the U.S. under one governing body and started his first organization "Arnis America" with that goal in mind. Later in the 70's he started "NARAUSA" and in the 80's the "U.S.K.A." (U.S. Kali Association). Tuhon Gaje's goal of unifying all U.S. FMAs proved to be impractical, but I think the idea of using "Kali" rather than "Arnis" was that the older, non-Spanish name would be one that he hoped a larger percentage of older Filipino instructors could unify around. Regards, Tuhon Bill McGrath ------------------------------ From: "BILL MCGRATH" Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:31:54 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Boar's Tusks While in Hawaii earlier this year, I found some boar's tusk necklaces in a tourist shop that I later turned into keychains. Several students have asked where they could get them. The necklaces had a tag that said they were made in the Philippines. Do any of the Filipinos on the list know of a source for boar's tusks? (I don't need the necklace part). I would like to buy several 4" or larger. Thanks, Tuhon Bill McGrath ------------------------------ From: Rocky Pasiwk Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 22:52:33 -0700 Subject: eskrima: JKD, JKDC Thanks folks for the insight, on the JKD, JKDC stuff, as I said I was just curious because of the little bit of friction is between my 3 students. From an outside point of view ( take it for what its worth to you) as most of you know the Bruce Lee stuff really doesn't make me all that warm and fuzzy, which is why I think I will give you a better more nutural view. It sounds like a bunch on political B.S to me. My 2 JKD students, seem every bit has informed and educated on the art of fighting as my 1 JKDC student. They all have the good mentality that comes from the Bruce followers, of learning what ever they can, and appreciating what they learn. They seem well enough trained for the amount of time each one trained. Good coordination and an open mid All of these are good qualities, that I appreciate and the things that I like and appreciate about the Bruce Lee guys, and all three of them pretty much believe that Bruce and his original core of people are gods, and created the cross training idea an are never wrong, the side that has always kinda turned me off. But all in all they seem the same to me, I enjoy teaching them all. I just avoid any of the Bruce Lee conversations. Rocky Pasiwk Founder Cuentada De Mano Chief instructor Anciongs's Balintawak ------------------------------ From: Rocky Pasiwk Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 23:01:47 -0700 Subject: eskrima: West Senica N.Y seminar I had the pleasure of conducting a seminar at the Western New York Institute of Martial arts this past weekend. I'd just like to thank Guru Tim Hartman for having me, I look forward to going back. Its always nice to se familiar faces. Phil ( Rhino ) ; sorry for making you a little light headed during the Ukrainian Wrestling, bet you never thought you could pass out from a leg compression!!! Oh well like my father said, it builds character, of course you are a character!! Thanks Rocky Pasiwk A.K.A. the Rhino slayer!!! Founder of Cuentada De Mano ------------------------------ From: "Gary A. Hudgins" Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 23:13:37 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #328 I have been reading with great interest the threads on different subjects for several weeks. I guess I will make my apperance now. I live in Dothan, Alabama, I laughingly call the area U.C.L.A. (Unknown Corner of Lower Alabama). I am on the Florida, Georgia Borders. The problem is, the closest kali people I know are in Atlanta. That is a four hour drive. I have been to a few seminars a Francis Fong's studio in Atlanta, but I was wondering if anyone knew of any Arnis, Kali, Eskrima people in my area. I work out some with Yoshukai Karate and they are good karate people, but don't have any interest in the FMA. Any help is appreciated. I know that Bruce Jolly occassionally teaches in Auburn, but that is still two hours away. Gary Hudgins No title - no FMA rank. Thanks for any input. ------------------------------ From: Tim Lavoie Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 23:35:50 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Re: FMA (esp. Sikaran Arnis) in Winnipeg > From: "Robert Masson" > Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 07:36:02 PDT > Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #328 > > >I was thinking of trying out FMA, and live in Winnipeg, Manitoba, >Canada. > >My phone book lists one place, "Sikaran Arnis", on Arlington >Street, but I > >do not know if there are any others. > >If anyone on the FMA list knows of any other places (or can tell me >more > >about this one), I'd appreciate some insight. > > Tim, > > Your have Peter Lee and I green with Envy! As it happens you are sitting on > top of a GREAT school. Peter and I have been fortunate enough to train with > Gilles Jaillet who is a third degree Black Belt in Arnis (They adopted the > Belt System) from the Sikaran Arnis school. I beleive the head instructor > is Dante Ulumbra. Thanks! Like anything else, the people involved make all the difference. > I have been training in a number of different systems of the Phillipine Arts > and love and appreciate the diversity of this family of arts. But I was > particularly impressed with the way that this particular school of Arnis has > structured it's curriculum. It is well planned and builds upon practical > skills so the students really get a solid foundation of hand and foot > movements as well as practical techniques. That's good to know, as "practicality" is very high on my list of deciding factors. It's something I've also appreciated about the club I'm at now, so any changes have to at least match that. In terms of curriculum, how would you characterize the main focus? I gather from reading the FMA FAQ and general net snooping that Sikaran (in general, not just this school) is primarily kicking-oriented, but I am also interested in empty hand and weapon (stick/knife) techniques. > Because of it's location there is a lot of RCMP officers who train > there and their "pragmatism" helps the school greatly. I think that the school used to be over on Notre Dame Avenue, but it recently popped like a back yard mushroom on Arlington Street instead. Not a big distance change really, but good for me, as it's my back yard it appeared in. Probably a 10-minute walk. > > I highly recommend going to check out the school and trying out a few > classes. I think it's quite likely that I will, given good reviews, location and good stuff to learn. I do need to discuss things with my Sifu at Green Dragon though, so I don't just fall off the face of the earth. Plenty of people return to G.D. after some time away, so I'm sure he'll understand. Thanks again, Tim ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #330 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com in directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan Eskrima, and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.