From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #342 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Tues, 17 Aug 1999 Vol 06 : Num 342 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #341 eskrima: Re: Silat List eskrima: Re: Tusks eskrima: Re: Tele-baton eskrima: capoeira eskrima: Titles? We don't need no stinkin' titles! eskrima: Books eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan Eskrima, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marc Denny" Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:48:32 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #341 A Howl etc: >- just > curious when where you promoted to full guro by guro dan - i guess congrates > where in order - last i heard he just made you associate guro a couple years > ago - you can respond offline > > steve Dunno what Steve means here. My certificate says "Guro" and Guro is what I said the other day. Crafty ------------------------------ From: BillyJa695@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:36:51 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Silat List In a message dated 8/17/99 10:05:52 AM, Buddy wrote: >Gary H wrote: >PS. Thanks to those people that provide links to other sources. Is there >a forum like this one for Silat? > >pendekar.com for one. Buddy Uh, can you provide more clues than that ? What's the e-mail address for the silat list (s) ? How do you subscribe ? Take care, Brian Johns Columbus, Ohio ------------------------------ From: "Todd D. Ellner" Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:36:20 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Re: Tusks Kilap@aol.com writes: >Hunting feral or wild pigs in Hawaii is a regular thing. It do it by spear >is definitely another. I wouldn't even entertain by knife unless you like to >bleed ;) There are people who use knives to hunt hogs. *Clang* *Clang*.... >Uhh, do pigs grow tusks? The wild boar on Hawaii sure do, not the barnyard >variety All pigs normally grow them. The buds are removed from domestic piglets. > For you anti-hunting people out there, >> Life feeds on life, in most >cases and definitely true for humans. Anti-hunting types have no logical >argument verses this hence none that can be substantiated against hunting >from a moral standpoint.. provided what is taken is eaten anyhow... but back >to FMA. Feral pigs are incredibly destructive, particularly in the unique and fragile Hawaiian ecology. Hawaii is, I think, the only state where you can get a permit to hunt in the national parks. ------------------------------ From: Rocky Pasiwk Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:34:47 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Re: Tele-baton I have used a telescoping baton, in the past while over seas, doing some security work. I wacked a guy who got past our crowd workers, and threatened our interior perimeter, I heard a few weeks later, that the little lead ball on the tip actually, popped a little hole in the top of his skull, almost to the brain. The bad news is it didn't stop him. A really weird thing happened to me the other day. I was teaching arm and leg pry's, when a student was doing an arm " Secure and rip move " I heard this little snap, like you hear when you crack your little knuckle or something. I didn't think nothing of it, and kept playing. latter that night I went to pick up my daughter and noticed my forearm was sore. In the middle of the night I got up and went to pour myself a glass of ice tea, and man it felt like someone stuck a hatchet in my arm. Well I ignored it for 2 days, and this morning had a family friend who is a Chiropractor x-ray it and sure enough I have this nice little crack across my forearm. Its really weird how even without adrenaline your body can totally ignore some pain, yet totally freak out from some very minor pain. I know the reason I didn't feel it, is cause I am tough, I am actually getting wimpier, as I get older, its just one of those freak things As one of my old students use to say " Its the pain that lingers" Rocky P.S Tim you should have accepted the Datu title, I would make a special title just for you in Cuentada De Mano, you can be Artu, Punung Guru Artu Datu Tim Hartman. ------------------------------ From: Bladewerks@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:02:43 EDT Subject: eskrima: capoeira In a message dated 8/17/99 11:07:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << www.members.fmsn.com/canete_international >> I guess all arts have a particular level of merit when and if applied at the proper time and under the correct circomstances.I've never fought a "Capoeria practictioner" or for that matter never even sparred one so I cant really speak from experience,I must confess though that it strikes me as "Martial Arts Break Dancing". Sweat more--Bleed Less Barry Meadows ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:30:24 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Titles? We don't need no stinkin' titles! Yip: What is, hopefully, a last thought on titles: The other day I mentioned my being a two-time Pan American Gold Medallist in BJJ. What I didn't say was that the first time the only person in my division refused to step on the mat with me and the second time I won the Gold, there was absolutely no one in my division. Thus, as the joke goes over at my home mat (the Machados) I am the Two time, undefeated and unchallenged, Champion. Woof, Crafty PS: I hear there is going to be a world Senior BJJ Championship in Brazil later this month. I'd be there but for the impending arrival of my son, but plan to be there next year. PPS: Of course I have fantasies of competing in the young man's division, but this morning I rolled with the Brazilian national purple belt champion in the weight division one below mine. A nice young man (at 23 he's exactly half my age) with good control and technique he passed my guard in under 20 seconds, and took another 20 to get mount, which he let me escape. I did OK in his guard (almost passed as Rigan cheered me on!), but I gotta tell ya, giving away over 20 years on the mat is a bitch. ------------------------------ From: Sidney525@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:59:01 EDT Subject: eskrima: Books There was a post a few months ago about a book on 3 styles of Spanish knife fighting. Is it available yet. A pretty good book on grappling, though it may be basic to some, is Kill as catch can, by Ned Beaumont. He discusses and shows many grappling techniques and more important, concepts. His other book that I read Championship Streetfighting : Boxing as a martial art, was also good but his view on (Asian) martial arts are kind of contridicatory, (praising Bruce Lee, and jujitsu throws, while saying martial arts aren't practical. Any other good books came out that might be of interest to ED subscribers. Sid Stein Fil. Kali-Escrima Academy of Chicago ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #342 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com in directory pub/eskrima/digests. 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