From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #343 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Wed, 18 Aug 1999 Vol 06 : Num 343 In this issue: eskrima: Capoeira (no subject) eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #342 eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #342 eskrima: Re: Silat List eskrima: Guro ranking eskrima: Seminar: Full Contact Stick Fighting eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan Eskrima, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kalki Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:27:51 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Capoeira Maestre... Capoeira is far from "break-dancing" and I wouldn't refer to it as such around someone who knows how to "play" it. When capoeira was used in what looked like street parties (plantation days) someone would be found dead the next morning. if you ever get to watch a group of capoeristas you should come away with a fine appreciation for the way that they seem to be able to throw any part of their body at you at any time in ways that you might never expect. Also, the smooth flowing coordinated drills of Capoeira engrain a fine sense of timing unlike anything that I've worked with save Kali approached with a "traditional" attitude, e.g., in contrast to the macho slam/jam right away I learned it all today approach taken by many. Capoeira can gitchoo main ... and talk about developing strength ... oh boy, consider the comparative strength of a gymnast versus a body builder. Capoeira = Gymnastic strength. That's what it requires, that's one of the things that it will readily develop. ...an'if you tink you got de legs main, spend a little time in O Gingada. If I were younger or had more time to train (why'd I have to find a job?:-) I'd give it a serious go. Interesting, some point out similarities btwn Capoeira and Traditional Korean Tae Kyon. Don't disparage what you don't know. Those Capoeiristas may smile in brotherhood but. my friend, they can really stomp. Anyone know anything about Nubian and/or Egyptian martial "stuff?" Just curious. Drifting thoughts traveled to a TKD mag in which some writer claimed that martial "systems" began in the Middle East. Duhhhh-h-h-h-h. How about Nubia, Songhay, Mali? What are the roots of the Madagascar stickfighting? An inquiring mind but not enough research time :-) Be well, Mik ------------------------------ From: Taojen1@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:49:10 EDT Subject: (no subject) < Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:55:40 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #342 > >PPS: Of course I have fantasies of competing in the young man's division, >but this morning I rolled with the Brazilian national purple belt champion >in the weight division one below mine. A nice young man (at 23 he's >exactly half my age) with good control and technique he passed my guard in >under 20 seconds, and took another 20 to get mount, which he let me escape. > I did OK in his guard (almost passed as Rigan cheered me on!), but I gotta >tell ya, giving away over 20 years on the mat is a bitch. > Crafty, I got a nice chuckle on this. That is why I think it is easier to hit'em than grapple'em! Now if they would just stop trying to wrestle. Regards, Carl ------------------------------ From: Kurokuwa@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:36:16 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #342 There was a post a few months ago about a book on 3 styles of Spanish knife fighting. Is it available yet. My book, Sevillian Steel: The Traditional Knife Fighting Arts of Spain, is slated for release in September from Paladin Press. I have arranged for Mr. Terry to receive an advanced copy for review. Excerpts from it will also appear in a number MA and edged weapons publications. - - James Loriega ------------------------------ From: "Pokok BeringinSakti" Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 01:01:36 PDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Silat List Hi, Well, actually I run that Silat list. It is a closed mailing list. I mostly lurk here in the FMA as being a Malaysian I haven't had the opportunity to learn the FMA although we, Malaysians and Indonesians, and the people of the Phillipines are related being "serumpun" - from the Malay stock. If anyone is interested, I normally give access to anyone over 18 (I need parent/guardians permission for minors) and who can sent me details as per http://pendekar.com/inforeq.htm. There is two list, one silat@pendekar.com is the general one, the second accessible only through logging into the "gelanggang" as we call it (malay for arena) for those who have interest in the more esoteric aspects of Silat. There are several bulletin boards, one public, two closed and as noted by friends, the discussion can get a bit wierd especially when one discuss silat systems "kebatinan" issues but as much as possible I like to try and get some answers for participants. If I don't know the answer, I will try and point participats to someone who may know the answers. I personally think that Silat and FMA systems are highly complementary to each other and will definitely augment one another. The blade work of the FMA is definitely, to me, fantastic, and combined with knowledge of close range infighting and ground tactics of Minangkabau(Sumatran) based systems such as Taji Kinantan, Harimau, Batu Mandi and Stralak systems to name a few - - not to mention Javanese ones would most certainly create a well rounded fighter IMHO. Anyway, if you like please check out http://www.pendekar.com. The silat@pendekar.com is a free service. Salam hormat dari Malaysia Mansur PS: Thanks for mentioning the site Buddy. >------------------------------ > >PS. Thanks to those people that provide links to other sources. Is there > >a forum like this one for Silat? > > > >pendekar.com for one. > Buddy > >Uh, can you provide more clues than that ? What's the e-mail address for >the silat list (s) ? How do you subscribe ? ------------------------------ From: Steve Grantham Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:46:58 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Guro ranking >From: "Marc Denny" >Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:48:32 -0700 >Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #341 > >A Howl etc: > >>- just >> curious when where you promoted to full guro by guro dan - i guess >>congrates where in order - last i heard he just made you associate guro a couple >>years ago - you can respond offline >> >> steve > Dunno what Steve means here. My certificate says "Guro" and Guro is what > I said the other day. >Crafty Crafty, As I understand it, an apprentice instructor under Guro Dan is called a Lakan Guro, and an associate instructor is called just Guro. I'm not sure about full instructor, since that is a long time off for me, if ever.. Steve Grantham Francis Fong Martial Arts Atlanta, GA ------------------------------ From: David Fulton Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:23:13 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Seminar: Full Contact Stick Fighting The Full Contact Martial Arts Association is proud to announce a seminar with Dr. David Wink. David Wink studied Pekiti-tirsia Kali, under Grand Tuhon Leo T. Gaje and was one of Eric "Top Dog" Knaus' training partners prior to the birth of the Dog Brothers. During these years, David & Eric adapted what they'd learned based upon extensive experience gained through their full contact fighting. In addition, David Wink was a sifu of Wing Chun Gung-fu and has studied karate, judo, Yang Taijiquan, western boxing, JKD, and Pentjak Silat. The knowledge that he received from his teachers, combined with more than twenty years of experience in full-contact fighting, and an analytical mind make David a formidable fighter and effective teacher. His speed, power and fluidity are rivaled only by his ability to analyze and break down the underlying principles of techniques. Topic: Mobility and the ability to deliver powerful, accurate strikes spontaneously are indispensable to success in full contact fighting. David Wink will teach you how to develop these skills using one & two man drills. You will be taught how to neutralize your opponent's offense by using footwork to evade his attacks and control fighting range. You will also be taught how to increase the power of your attacks through the use of body mechanics rather than physical strength. These principles apply not just to sticks, but to all weapons, as well as empty hands. For clarity's sake however, the seminar will concentrate on single stick, double stick and short stick (which represents a knife). Due to legal constraints, participants will NOT be permitted to do any full-contact fighting at the seminar. Date & Time: Sat. Sept. 18, 1999, from 9:00 am to 4:00 pm with a 45 minute lunch break. Location: Central Maryland Martial Arts, 6907 Baltimore National Pike, Frederick, Md. Cost: $30.00 per person; $20.00 for police & military with proper I.D. ATTENDANCE IS LIMITED to allow for more personal instruction. Advance registration is recommended. Required Equipment: One pair of escrima sticks and a short stick (10" - 12" long to represent a knife). No hard wood sticks allowed. Eye protection is also recommended. Note: Instructional videos, focusing on various aspects of fighting, will be available for purchase at the seminar. Disclaimer: Full contact fighting is DANGEROUS and you engage in it AT YOUR OWN RISK. Central Maryland Martial Arts and the Full Contact Martial Arts Association, shall NOT be responsible for injuries resulting from related training, nor shall any member or officer of said organizations. For more information, or to register, please contact me at (301) 517-1952 or dfulton@computerpackages.com. We hope to see you there. Dave Fulton dfulton@computerpackages.com Full Contact Martial Arts Association "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'...'til you can find a big stick." ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #343 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com in directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan Eskrima, and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.