From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #344 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Thurs, 19 Aug 1999 Vol 06 : Num 344 In this issue: eskrima: Spanish Knife Fighting eskrima: "springy" batons eskrima: Re: Silat List eskrima: Silat in UFC eskrima: Ya better sit down eskrima: Fencer's lunge eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan Eskrima, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ludwig Schwarz Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:13:24 +0200 (MEST) Subject: eskrima: Spanish Knife Fighting > My book, Sevillian Steel: The Traditional Knife Fighting Arts of Spain, is > slated for release in September from Paladin Press. I have arranged for Mr. > Terry to receive an advanced copy for review. Excerpts from it will also > appear in a number MA and edged weapons publications. > > - - James Loriega Hi James, I absolutely in no way want to question your authority on this matter, but could you please tell me from what sources did you draw your knowledge on this matter? Is it historical knife-fighting? I have lived in Spain (northern Spain) for about 15 Years, in fact, I've been raised there, because my father is spanish. During this years I was quite in contact with the MA-Scene, and I have never ever heard of contemporary "styles" of spanish knife fighting. Of course, there were a lot of "tricks" that you learned on the street, and I even would agree with you in that a knife-fighter raised in Spain has a different way of moving than a knife-fighter from Los Angeles, but is that a "Style"? I have never seen an evidence of formal teaching in knife fighting in Spain, apart from the local FMA-Groups. At least not in this century. In older novels from or about Spain you find references to different styles of knife fighting. Most of them were based on the region of origin, not on the social status of the practitioners. E.G. in the novel "Carmen" from Prosper Merimee (on which the famous Opera "Carmen" is based) you can find a good description of a short and lethal knife fight between one Practitioner of the Basque Style and one of the Andalusian style... Greetings Ludwig From Germany - -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ------------------------------ From: Sam Beckett Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: "springy" batons I have one of the flexable batons you are referring to in my collection. It is well made yet ineffective as anything but a pure impact weapon. They are designed to deliver 'multiple' strikes as you follow throught, I believe this design was implemented in the early 80's by the Japanese police. The MOST effective 'improvised' impact weapon I have found are the hard rubber dividers you put between your groceries at the store. While they are a little short they pack a tremendous whallop and are easily conceled. I have been unfortunate enough to have used this on two occasions, once as a man tried to crawl through my passanger side window intent on my demise (the single strike landed across his ear and cheekbone, he was still in the fetal position as I drove away!), and a second incident where I was accosted by an unruly whino who received a series of blows which immediatly took the wind out of his sails and sent him wailing down the street in search of a place to hide! The effect of hard, flexible rubber on soft epidermis is extreamly potent!!!! Check this one out! _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Todd D. Ellner" Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:28:30 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Re: Silat List BillyJa695@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 8/17/99 10:05:52 AM, Buddy wrote: >>>Gary H wrote: >>>PS. Thanks to those people that provide links to other sources. Is there >>>a forum like this one for Silat? >>pendekar.com for one. >> Buddy >Uh, can you provide more clues than that ? What's the e-mail address for the >silat list (s) ? How do you subscribe ? Abu Mansur's (excellent) web site is at www.pendekar.com. He also runs the Silat mailing list. Go to the web site and there will be directions for subscribing. Except for a few loud-mouths the list is a source of excellent information and discussion by pesilat and kun tao practitioners from all over the world. ------------------------------ From: Bladewerks@aol.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:43:38 EDT Subject: eskrima: Silat in UFC Does anyone know the Silat fighter who was in one of the early UFC's? Also has anyone seen the footage of the fight?Did he make a good showing or not? I really would like to see the fight.Also would like to see the fight with the Wing Chun fighter. Ive seen the WC fighter in one of the Extream Battlecades,I think it was a Sambo man if I can remember.The Wing Chun fighter was taken down in a matter of seconds and choked out if i remember correctly.Does anyone know about these? Sweat More--Bleed Less Barry M. ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:17:55 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Ya better sit down A Howl of Greeting to All: Ya better sit down 'cause I have some news-- the first video of the second DB video series, Dog Brothers Martial Arts, has been shot a mere years of procrastination and mishaps after if was first mentioned. It covers the 7 Ranges of Stickfighting and from the theory of chambers material from Snake range has a case study, and has several trainings for Stick Squared range. All the remains (ha ha) is to edit the damn thing! As always, there will be plenty of fights. If you see it taught, you see it fought. Woof, Crafty Dog ------------------------------ From: "Dave Huang" Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:18:28 PDT Subject: eskrima: Fencer's lunge Easy question: What are some responses for dealing with a fencer's lunge while knife sparring? We're talking about a straight thrust to the sternum. Dave _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 06:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #344 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com in directory pub/eskrima/digests. 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