From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #372 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sat, 4 Sept 1999 Vol 06 : Num 372 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #371 eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #371 eskrima: Still rolling on the floor!! eskrima: Re: wavy blades eskrima: Oregon attempt to regulate MAs eskrima: La Toliet eskrima: How to clean you cat--the Dog Brother way eskrima: Cross Training eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan Eskrima, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AnimalMac@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 12:37:31 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #371 In a message dated 9/4/99 4:01:42 PM !!!First Boot!!!, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << << Races don't have 'fighting' styles, cultures do. A berserk Norseman and an effette British dandy may be both the same race and both as dangerous to cross as the other but they won't fight the same - that's culture. >> >> On this I totally agree, it isn't a matter of race. Never has been and never will be. What it does have a lot to do with is the cultural influences that an individual is raised with. ------------------------------ From: TCSNo@aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 12:57:11 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #371 In a message dated 9/4/99 12:02:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << After the seminar he did some healing body work on me. Hard to describe, but most extraordinary. Warrior, scholar, healer. >> I had the same feelings attending a seminar with Uncle Bill the other weekend. He did some healing on my instructor (also a reflexologist, reichi practitioner, and Mantik Chia trained chi gung exponent). Very, very, fascinating. These guys at 64 years old are amazing. Makes me want to train harder for sure. Tom Furman....tcsno@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Howard Wilson Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 13:21:13 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Still rolling on the floor!! Hi all, just wanted to unlurk to say that these past couple of days the various threads on the list have kept me in a VERY GOOD mood. MANY THANKS ALL (sorry Ray I just HAD to yell it). Crafty as a cat (up to 4 at one time) owner I still break out with a giggle everytime I thing about your post (to make this MA related what type of foot work do you use against a feline set on making your leg a new scratching post ??). Also the restroom debate has caused quite a few interesting ideas (grin) at our classes!! Howard Wilson http://w3.one.net/~howard ------------------------------ From: "Randall M. Brannan" Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 10:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Re: wavy blades David Fulton wrote: > >Well, I can't say why those who developed the kris or Flamberge created >their wavy blade designs, but from the POV of edge dynamics here is my >understanding. > >Having a curved blade means that the edge is always presented at an angle to >it's target which results in a shearing action that is more effective wrt >cutting. The recurve blade (ex. khukuri), a downward canted blade (ex. a >bolo with a blade that is straight but set at a downward angle in relation >to the tang and handle), and a wavy blade like the kris are all different >ways of presenting the edge at an angle to the target. Another, modern way >to accomplish this is the "serrated" blades so prevalent today. Of course >the recurved blade of the khukuri and the downward canted blade also change >the balance of the weapon, putting more weight out front to aid cutting and >the "serrations" allow for a sawing effect. Another way of thinking about what Mr. Fulton is explaining is to think of your blade as a wedge. When you strike at a right angle to a straight blade, that wedge will be at its thickest. If you use a draw cut parrallel to the blade, the wedge will appear to the target as though it were very thin. Thus the "effective" sharpness of the blade has increased. But the price you pay for this that that the "power", really angular momentum, in the draw cut is much less than when you strike at a right angle to the blade. A curved blade such as a khukri, scimitar, or sabre solves this problem. With these weapons you can use a powerful circular strike, like with a baseball bat, but still present your edge at an oblique angle giving an effectively thinner wedge. It's hard to understand this explanation without seeing a drawing of it. You can find such a drawing in Richard F. Burton's "Book of the Sword." This theory works pretty well in describing the cutting superiority of the weapons I just mentioned. However the Europeans seem to have found that the Flamberge didn't cut all that well. I believe, pure speculation here, that the reason for this is that the wavy blade does not maintain contact with the target continuously. Thus it misses the opportunity to transfer all of it's energy into the target and ends up putting some of that energy into your arm. The other weapons mentioned, which have only one curve instead of many, do not suffer from this problem. Randy B. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 14:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Oregon attempt to regulate MAs Does anyone have info on the recent attempt of Oregon State Senator John Lim's bill, SB 904, to regulate martial arts schools in Oregon? It is apparently similar to New Jersey's bill in that it provides for an advisory commission "to advise the Senate and the Governor on bills relating to the martial arts regulation". Any more info out there? Ray Terry rterry@best.com ------------------------------ From: "Ken Grubb" Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 14:55:06 -0400 Subject: eskrima: La Toliet Tuhon Bill McGrath wrote: > These days, when I have to use a public restroom, I use > the handicapped stall. They are usually large enough that, > were someone to kick the door open it wouldn't hit you and > you are far enough from the sides that it's hard to grab > your legs from another stall or from the front. I too use the handicapped stalled, whether for Number 1 or Number 2. When I've observed uniformed police officers enter a public restroom, they generally make for the stalls, and the handicapped stall if available. > If you carry a firearm, one advantage of a shoulder rig is that > you don't have to do anything special to make it accessible while > on the john (or seated in a car or on the subway for that matter). I generally use an IWB holster, but when the call is 10-200, I withdraw the gun and stick it in my vest pocket. [Cannot argue against the merits of shoulder carry in this case, but I don't like the tactical disadvantages for drawing and retention.] > A man seated with his pants around his ankles is one thing, a > man seated with his pants around his ankles and a weapon in his > hand is another. If one carries an ASP or other impact weapon, perhaps THAT makes even more sense in one's hand than a gun while "dropping off friends at the pool". The ASP won't excessively penetrate and ricochets off a tile floor can be a real b****. Just my $1.37 (federal tax $.83, state tax $.31, Internet tax $.21, my $.02) Ken Grubb Bellevue, WA NRA Firearm Instructor (soon to be NRA Training Counselor) ------------------------------ From: "Ken Grubb" Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:15:50 -0400 Subject: eskrima: How to clean you cat--the Dog Brother way Crafty Dog wrote: > How to clean your cat the Dog Brother way > > 3. Obtain the cat and soothe him while you carry him towards > the bathroom. Having had generally poor luck bathing my cats, I offer a revised Step #3. 3) Obtain the cat and soothe him 3a) Clip the cats toenails 3b) Using an emery board, remove those squared-off edges left by the nail clippers 3c) Carry him towards the bathroom > 8. The now-clean cat will rocket out of the toilet, and run > outside where he will promptly dry himself. 9. Suture the wounds inflicted by Mister Kitty. [My cats are working at perfecting a Flying, Tail Stabilized, Labing Walo Daga method.] - ------- Pain is temporary. Glory is forever. Chicks dig scars. Ken Grubb Bellevue, WA ------------------------------ From: "Ken Grubb" Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:27:18 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Cross Training Michael Cole shouted out: > What do the members think of training in another art like > wing chung do, judo, shoot, boxing, fencing etc. to help > "enhance" the mother art? Along with Modern Arnis, I study Ching Ching Pow, if that counts. Just my $1.37 (federal tax $.83, state tax $.31, Internet tax $.21, my $.02) Ken Grubb Bellevue, WA NRA Firearm Instructor (soon to be NRA Training Counselor) ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #372 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com in directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan Eskrima, and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.