From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #387 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Mon, 13 Sept 1999 Vol 06 : Num 387 In this issue: eskrima: Dry shaving... eskrima: Ice-pick grip eskrima: Jujitsu America Convention 1999 eskrima: Re: Villabrille eskrima: Ray's comment on the ground eskrima: Team fighting eskrima: one hour eskrima: Gurkha update eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan Eskrima, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pnn Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:16:33 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Dry shaving... > > > How do you shave with serrated edge? > > Mike Koblic, > Quesnel BC > Very carefully and in small stripes....:) Btw, what are everyone's ideas about using a small knife in combat? Some ideas have come out, are there any more? Thanks, Paul ------------------------------ From: Michael Koblic Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:36:03 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Ice-pick grip >If the handle allows it, I prefer edge in with a small knife. This is the important condition. I have tried a number of folders this way and ended up worrying about the retention because of the handle shape. Which of the current folders do you think are suitable to be used this way? Mike Koblic, Quesnel BC ------------------------------ From: "Ray Terry" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:42:19 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Jujitsu America Convention 1999 Jujitsu America Convention 1999 September 24-26, 1999 San Mateo Marriott San Mateo, California Clinics by: Wally Jay, Willy Cahill, George Arrington, Richard Bunch, Kevin Caldwell, Dave Castoldi, Jeremy Corbell, Gary Deaver, Joe & Tony DeBattista, Lee Eichelberger, Janet Gee, Denise Gonzales, David & Ron & Sue Jennings, Sheldon Mar, Bob Maschmeier, Dara Masi, Tony Maynard, Dwayne McCraney, Ed Mealaugh, Scott Merrill, Artem Mishin, Ron Ogi, Janice Okamoto, John Olshlager, Chris Peterson, Eric Renner, BJ Singh, Joe Souza, Laura Welch. Ray Terry rterry@best.com http://www.martialartsresource.com ------------------------------ From: Sidney525@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:57:11 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Villabrille Do any films or pictures survive of the full contact matches of GM Villabrille in Hawaii. Also, is the Villabrille website up yet, some of us are looking to checking it out. Sid FKEAC ------------------------------ From: Kalki Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 14:21:34 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Ray's comment on the ground > Work on stand up grappling and avoiding > take downs through whatever means. Amen Ray (Amon Ra?:-) MHO: Even if dealing with only one opponent, it should not be considered unusual for a person to have multiple weapons at their disposal. Don't all bark at me at once here, but while one pursues a submission there might be a shiv coming out of a boot or some other unanticipated location. El perp might be saying thank you as el defender focusses on trying to tie him up in one lock or another. What's the good in breaking someone's arm who at the same time slits your tibialis anterior or separates your calf or your foot from your leg with the chainsaw in his other hand? Ey mon, Senor Perp might also have a ballistic toy strapped to his ankle which he may deftly apply as you confidently pursue your arm bar or choke, eh? Some locals used to give me grief and disrespect because I was never interested in working on the mats with them. By the time I left the place even the most devoutly religious "it came from India" grapple-meister had started training his "stand up" skills. We never made any contact, they just watched me train for about three months ... and I'm nobody special. I will always view groundfighting as something to manage in case someone manages to take things there. Having observed some expert Shuai Chiao fighters I seek the ability to hurt the guy who wants to go to the ground before he succeeds in taking me there ... even during the trip to the ground. If we can hit someone repeatedly during throwing, it may also be possible to hit/rip/whatever while being thrown ... always thinking to turn the tables on any apparent success the opponent might find. Talking with my son last night after a day of training I described my animal totem ... a "Tiger-Monkey Dragon" :-) Some of the Shuai Chiao guys that I've seen ("real" Tai Chi incl. Shuai Chiao) practiced midair turns and reversals on someone trying to throw them ... I mean stepping on the guy and turning around on him in the air ... only to land and reverse the situation, i.e. throw the thrower using momentum from the fall and landing. Real cool, smoothe, like watching monkeys play or cats/tigers (or birds!) fight. I tell my son that if someone can get him to the ground death can be very close by and he'd better listen to that master (death) and do what has to be done. Groundfighting is a very dangerous situation where mobility is severely diminished, gravity can quickly/easily work against us, parts can quickly/easily get broken, and choking/strangulation is often the final common pathway. Be well, Mik ------------------------------ From: "William Upton-Knittle" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 18:26:40 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Team fighting Has anyone ever done real contact team sparring? ....maybe 3 x 3 might be a good starting point? This might make the participants a little less eager to take the fight to the ground. Is there any reason that this isn't feasable? What kind of safety measures would have to be in place? Would it just be a matter of having fighters that you would trust to not seriously injure his sparring partners? Maybe have an official for each pair of fighters to step in? So what do you think.... any merit to this idea? Crafty Daddy... what ye say? Always go to the basics. Whether you are in a team situation or not, you can only depend on yourself. There are only 8 directions from which you can be attacked. Given the sloppiness of most martial artists today in every category, you can safely drop that number to three attacks tops. Keep your hips in motion and since all three can't attack at the same millisecond take them in order as you KEEP MOVING. Aikido practitioners nearly always practice one vs. six or eight.....same principles apply. Always keep thinking in terms of the basics....three is just two more than one, not a big difference if you have taken time to learn the basics. b ------------------------------ From: "C. Herrman" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 23:42:57 -0400 Subject: eskrima: one hour Tuhon McGrath wrote: >I asked a question in my last post and so far have gotten few takers. The >question was: if you had only an hour to train a guy (he was being shipped >overseas to a warzone tomorrow) what few techniques would you give him. Do >this for each category of weapon you teach. Me: My first lesson with Guro Marcaida was spent almost exclusively on the proper mechanics of a PT angle #1. For a good part of the hour I faced a wall (about 1 foot away) and executed the strike. I also drilled the strike in the mirror and with a wooden sword. (I don't know if he does this with all new students - I was only training with him for a few months before moving to Boston.) The way Guro Marcaida explained the rationale for this intro to me was (paraphrasing): "In the old days, if you knew you were going to have to fight the neighboring tribe tomorrow, you learn angle #1 today. If you survive the battle, then you learn angle #2." Made sense to me! I'm not an instructor, but in the scenario Tuhon McGrath has set up I would basically use that same philosophy to train someone. I think it would be very difficult for most students to *learn* more than a few simple techniques in an hour ("learn" as opposed to "see"). IMO it would be more useful to focus on one of the 5 weapon categories than to divide the hour among multiple weapon categories. I would train the student using a single stick (because if he is uncoordinated and cuts himself training for the battle he can't fight!). 15min. working the strike in the air to develop technique/body mechanics and targeting, 30min. on a heavy bag to develop a feel for the application of power, 5 minutes showing same technique with other weapon categories, and perhaps 10 min. working an empty hand angle #1 (hammerfist or open hand slap) in case the weapon is lost. At the end of the hour I think the student would retain the basic technique (and hopefully be able to execute it under the stress of combat). That's my non-battlefield-tested opinion. For what its worth. Respectfully, Chris H. student: Executive Edge Martial Development ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:34:17 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Gurkha update A Howl etc: Gurkha update: Gurkhas to join Timor peacekeepers British soldiers are set to be among the first peacekeeping troops to arrive in stricken East Timor, Foreign Secretary Robin Cook said tonight. Up to 270 Gurkhas could be deployed in the region within days, after Indonesia bowed to mounting international pressure and accepted a United Nations force to restore order. They will find a shattered land and a terrorised people who face disease and starvation. Some estimates of the death toll have risen into tens of thousands. Much of the capital, Dili, has been reduced to rubble and ashes by anti-independence militiamen, aided by Indonesian troops. UN officials said tens of thousands of people have been deported, some by force, to camps in Indonesian-governed West Timor. Conceding to a peace force, President B J Habibie today admitted that "too many people have lost their lives" since the August 30 vote for independence in the former Portuguese colony. The move came 24 hours after Britain and the US suspended arms sales to Indonesia and warned of more tough sanctions to come unless it complied with demands for a UN force to restore order. It was welcomed by world leaders including President Clinton, who called it a stepping back from the brink. Mr Cook said: "I am glad that our message appears to have been heard in Jakarta. But we will now be looking for details of their commitment and for the commitment for a UN peacekeeping force to be carried out rapidly and in full." Announcing the climbdown, Habibie said: "Too many people have lost their lives since the beginning of the unrest, have lost their homes and security. "We cannot wait any longer we have to stop the suffering immediately." UN officials will tomorrow meet the Indonesian Prime Minister to agree details of the force. The British contingent of 2nd Battalion the Royal Gurkha Rifles, stationed in Brunei, would be "deployed as soon as possible", Mr Cook said. But East Timor, remote and devastated, is a logistical nightmare, and delays were possible to the force's arrival, military and UN officials warned. The bloodshed started after more than 78% of East Timorese voted to break away from Indonesia in a UN-supervised referendum. Woof, Crafty ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #387 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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