From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #391 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Tues, 14 Sept 1999 Vol 06 : Num 391 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Legal Knife Size in CA eskrima: Re: A question about small knives... eskrima: North East JFJKD Conference eskrima: Re: Suggestions and second thoughts eskrima: Re: closing the gap Re: eskrima: Re: Legal Knife Size in CA eskrima: Small knife grips eskrima: Re: Lines and Types eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan Eskrima, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filovir1@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 02:44:45 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Legal Knife Size in CA It is legal to carry "any size" folding knife in CA. That means as long as the knife folds, no matter how large the blade is, it is legal. Knives like the Vaquero (spp?) Grande from Cold Steel, with the 6 inch blade, would be legal. I also believe that this is a new provision to the law. ------------------------------ From: p.taylor@talk21.com Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:04:54 BST Subject: eskrima: Re: A question about small knives... Jon Howard wrote: << snip A lot has been said lately about the use of small knives, what would you consider a functional size for a small knife, are there any distinctions between small and very-small knives. It is my understanding that in England folding knives with blades longer than 2.5" are illegal to be carried. Could somebody clarify this for me ? Respectfully yours Jon Howard. >> - --- Hi Jon, Section 139 Criminal Justice Act 1988 does specifically exempt folding non-locking pocket knifes with a blade length of less than 3 inches. Although recent case law suggests that the non-locking part may not apply. Unfortunately most police officers believe that anything sharper than you elbow is illegal that often selectively quote sections of the 1953 Prevention of Crime Act, the 1959 Restriction of Offensive Weapons Act and the 1996 Offensive Weapons Act. hth Paul reply to: paul@eskrima.demon.co.uk - -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com ------------------------------ From: "Don Edwards" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:49:00 GMT Subject: eskrima: North East JFJKD Conference Just a reminder that the date is apoproaching for anyone interested in attending the 1999 North East Jun Fan JKD Conference being held in NYC (Chelsea Piers - Field House) October 22 thru the 24th, featuring Sifu's Richard Bustillo, Ted Wong and Chris Kent. Online info and registration form can be obtained at www.geocities.com/eureka/2968 or by calling Integrated Martial Arts of Livingston NJ at 973 422-1500 or contacting Sifu Tre Hockett at International Martial Arts of Colombus at 614 871-3223 Registration before Sept 15th is $195 and after is $230.. At the door is $260. Hope to see you there, Thanks Don Edwards, Integrated Martial Arts of Livingston, NJ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Branwen Thomas" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:16:21 -0230 Subject: eskrima: Re: Suggestions and second thoughts thank you Todd. you're right, of course, a few hours is not enough to impart all that is needed, and believe me I'm far from thinking I'm ready to jump right in. That would not only be hubris on my part, it could be dangerous for students who think they are now indestructible. I really was just looking for ideas etc as a starting point; it is something I really want to do, because I am a woman (a small one at that ;), but was lucky enough to have a mom who encouraged me to be strong and self-reliant (although not foolhardy), and I want to encourage other women to think that way. I guess it's not so much technique that I want to impart, as it is the mindset that *you are worth fighting for* - that it is okay to defend yourself, and that you _can_ learn to do it. Studying FMA has done so much for my self-confidence in the physical world (yes, I was -and still am - the consummate bookworm/geek), and I would like to share that. If I can formulate a simple, effective beginner curriculum, with emphasis on a few techniques and mental preparation, then I'll have somewhere to start, but be reassured I'm not going to jump right in until I'm sure of what I'm doing and how to do it. again, many thanks to all of you for your suggestions and constructive criticism - I do appreciate it. :) jocelyne Roaring Girl * Purveyor Of Fine Books * Beater Of Bodhrans * Smiter Of The Wicked * * Owned By Angus, Most Elegant And Pleasing Of Cats * ------------------------------ From: "Steven Drape" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 06:24:45 PDT Subject: eskrima: Re: closing the gap >"How do you train new fighters or students that have not fought before >on closing the gap?" This is a good question, because it is related directly to the type of style. In other words, a long range style may not try to close the gap at all, where a corto style will try very hard to get in. In our corto style, we begin our training at close range, and the student is not allowed to step back. Once he feels comfortable and can execute at that range, then we will add movement, though still staying at close range. Finally, we allow movement in and out. By the time a student begins to work on closing the gap, he already has a very good grasp of close range and where he needs to get to to be effective. We generally try to occupy the opponent as we move in, either by attacking or faking an attack. These attacks are rarely committed, but are designed to get some kind of response. The response we get determines whether or not we can get in to where we want to be. In some cases, merely blocking or even absorbing a hit will work, depending on the location of the strike. Many times, we don't have to move in or try to close the gap. Let the other guy come to you, if you have the confidence to deal with his attack. You will many times end up on the inside, exactly where our style wants you to be. Steve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: eskrima: Re: Legal Knife Size in CA > It is legal to carry "any size" folding knife in CA. That means as long as > the knife folds, no matter how large the blade is, it is legal. Knives like > the Vaquero (spp?) Grande from Cold Steel, with the 6 inch blade, would be > legal. I also believe that this is a new provision to the law. That, too, is my understanding. When lengths are specified in the CA PC it is wrt legal def of a switchblade (>2.5 in., I believe). But CA PC does specify it is illegal to carry blades, I think over a certain length, in public schools/colleges/etc. Try searching the CA PC website that was recently mentioned here on the digest. I have a searchable copy on my other PC and can search it if you like, but it may take a couple of days before I can get to it. But cities may have legislation that is more restrictive than the CA PC. You mentioned San Francisco, I'm near there but know of no additional laws, but... In general it seems in CA that a knife with a blade under 3.5" raises few questions, under 3" is even better (e.g. a Delica). No butterfly knives, no gravity knives, no push knives, no cane swords, no belt buckle knives, no pen knives, no fun stuff... :) IMHO Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Patrick Davies Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:28:57 +0100 Subject: eskrima: Small knife grips Following the interesting thread on small knife grips I have to say = that I bought my latest one in view to concealment. Its actually slightly too = small and thin for the ease of use I was comfortable with. I picked up this spyderco which is 3 =BC" shut, 5 =BD" long opened but =BC" thick which = makes it easily concealed. The aim of the knife in this circumstance was to have something out of = the way but there. I forfeited on the actual comfort of it in the belief = that I would get used to it. I am still, without having had to use it, willing = to accept that if drawn the period that its to be used will be rather = small so that how I grip it will be inconsequential to the result. Of course preparation in training will help there. Whether it gets used in = icepick or hammer will depend on how its drawn and the speed required for = reaction. If I was spending money on one again then I will be richer in = experience. My advice is to buy cheap throw aways till you know what is the most = suitable. Then you can spend on a more expensive model safe in the knowledge that = its 100% functional. Pat Aberdeen Martial Arts Group ------------------------------ From: Ronald.Reekers@HSC.com Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:21:52 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Re: Lines and Types [Marc Denny wrote: As seen in the DB#1, we too look for a simple and efficient nomenclature. Amongst many things, I was impressed with GM Estalilla's nomenclature when I attended his seminar. Actually, it goes further than Ron described here, including thrusting, butt strikes, etc. Woof, Crafty] Marc, The description I gave previously are termed "lines of strike", in coordination with that are "types of strikes". GM Estalilla has broken these strikes into 6 basic strikes; Slash, Chop, Thrust, Butt, Gore and Slam. For which he is fond of saying, "Not only can you slash, chop and thrust, BUTT also gore and slam". Each of these strikes can be executed at all the particular lines of strikes. Ron Ps: Best wishes to your family. I hope Cindy and you are able to sleep through the nights. :-) ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #391 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com in directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan Eskrima, and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.