From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #418 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Thur, 7 Oct 1999 Vol 06 : Num 418 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #416 eskrima: Re: Inosanto's Current Angles eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #417 eskrima: Book Title eskrima: Inosanto Blend numbering system: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #417 eskrima: Angles eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan Eskrima, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carlton H. Fung, D.D.S." Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 07:40:43 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #416 <> How about this premise...if you close and cannot get more than 1 hit you did something wrong. You should have only entered if you can take command. "clean hit and get the hell out of there without getting hit" is meaningless because you can't take the guy out with one hit. 9/10 you will then have to pick your way back in and waste time recovering lost territory and you risk more hits to you as you close again. This applies to sparring etc... Regards, Carlton H. Fung, D.D.S. Redondo Beach, Ca. ------------------------------ From: abass@iname.com Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:17:30 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inosanto's Current Angles Thanks all who offered insight on the diffs between 1980's and 1999's angles. The information was just what I was looking for. ash ------------------------------ From: "Jon Howard" Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:55:59 +0100 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #417 > >I also have the FMA book and also a book by one of his students which show the >"Inosanto-LaCoste" strikes as: > > >The book also lists strikes for a knife system. > >Regards. > >Jim Lowe >Berkeley Eskrima Club > Can you give us some more info about this book - title, author etc... TIA Jon... ------------------------------ From: "Shawn Albert" Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 13:33:38 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Book Title >I'm not an Inosanto student, so I can't tell you what he's doing lately. I >also have the FMA book and also a book by one of his students which show the >"Inosanto-LaCoste" strikes as: >The book also lists strikes for a knife system. > >Regards. > >Jim Lowe >Berkeley Eskrima Club Mr. Lowe, what is the title of this book by one of Inosanto's students you that you are referring to? I would be interested in obtaining this book sometime. Also, would you list the strikes for the knife system? E-mail me privately if you wish. Shawn Albert shawn86@eudoramail.com Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:15:00 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Inosanto Blend numbering system: Yip: A quick addendum to the description already made. Numbers 5-8 in the book followed the sequence of the Villabraille system, (belly thrust/high forehand thrust/vertical strike/high backhand thrust) and the current number 5-8 come from LaCoste (belly thrust/high backhand thrust/high forehand thrust/vertical strike. In others words, the four strikes in question are the same but the order varies. As for the entire numbering system, I believe there's something like 107 strikes, but as noted in class we rarely go beyond 17, or occasionally 24. Woof, Crafty ------------------------------ From: AnimalMac@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:58:16 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #417 In a message dated 10/7/99 8:33:12 AM Mountain Daylight Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << - he doesnt think the silat as a STRAIGHT grappling system is effect against a TRAINED grappler - >> ummm...I hate to tell you this, but silat is one of the few arts I have encountered who can effectively inform an attacker that in-fighting range is not just a small town that you pass through on your way to Grappling Wisconson. In fact, the heavy emphasis on elbows on centerline can do wonders for messing up a grapplers day. And hey, if the guy comes in low, shiloh. I personally love it when some grappler comes kamakazing in. That pointy elbow sticking out there is going to make his life a living hell, because his entire momentum is going to spear him on it. . For your information using this idea in my women's self-defense course by the end of the day we have 120 pound women blasting 240 and 280 pound ukies across the room. And the well padded attacker is doing a flying tackle at these women. And that is only after one day of training. Naturally you don't want to do this in a friendly sparring match because you will crush the guys face maybe even snap his neck. But if you have access to a Mr Bullethead outfit, you might want to experiement with this. There is a way to handle grapplers, but it ain't nice. Which means you can't use it as long as there are rules. Animal ------------------------------ From: "big Joe A." Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 13:10:12 PDT Subject: eskrima: Angles I know I'm probably going to get burned for this one but I must. Why,why, why are there so many angles???? To many in my opinion. If you were to learn even 60 angles wouldn't one get confused as to which angle to use. Too many options in my opinion. No disrespect meant but in my experience the simpler the better. I think twelve is more then enough. The system I study only has five and I find that to be more then ample. It's like the old saying goes "The more complex the plumbing the easier it is to stop up the drain." I'd like to ask the opinion of other members of the E-D. Please tell me your opinion on how many is to many or enough and why??? Your confused friend in training, Big Joe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #418 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com in directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan Eskrima, and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.