From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #441 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Fri, 22 Oct 1999 Vol 06 : Num 441 In this issue: eskrima: Foot Bags eskrima: Training Program eskrima: Animals comments eskrima: sipa eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #439 eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan Eskrima, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mikal Keenan" Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:06:30 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Foot Bags I learned of HackySack as a Native American/North American Aborigine "thing." Consider ... "HackySack/FootBag: A modern American version of an ancient sport played in Asia and in North America." The aboriginal peoples of North America played with foot bags. Some sources cite the evolution of Takraw in Asia as yielding a net game about 500 years ago. The Native Americans were playing with footbags long before that (wa-a-a-y back when, eh?). I don't know the Chinese name for similar gaming/exercise but they translate it into English as "Shuttlecock" ... usually a bag with feathers. The evolution of FootBag games is is really cool. Both the American and Asian versions have become and are becoming more dynamic. Asian "Takraw" (origins anybody?) sounds really cool: jumping spinning, head butting moves that streamed together could probably yield a kinesthetic/body sense second to none -- insofar as use of the body with a leg/foot focus is concerned -- gotta have some crossover effects for other skills as well though ... mebbe we could add sticks :-) Whoa!!! Be well, Mik ------------------------------ From: Chad Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:31:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Training Program For some strange reason the post slowed down all of a sudden this week. Glad to see it back up. Dan Inosanto has a fairly interesting schedule, and I was wondering what kind of schedule during the week do the subscribers of the ED have for training. For myself, it is always changing depending on how I am feeling or where my train of thoughts are going. I rarely actually stick to a program without changing somthing every couple of weeks. Do most even follow a set routine or does it change every night or once a week? Just wondering as to the thought that goes into the development of the schedule. Include anything like running, calastenics, and weightlifting(I did alot of repititions of hammer curls, because I felt it developed my functional strength of the forearm muscles I use with the stick) as long as it is related to your MA training. Also for the guy that asked about the vest, I think Ron Baliki sells a black with white trimming vest. ===== "Draw me not without reason, sheath me not without honor" Chad Hawaii __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Rocky Pasiwk Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:58:51 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Animals comments Animal wrote: > However, I have met people whose ironey glands were removed and even if your > words were dripping with the inflection of "this is really a stupid idea" > they'd still take it and run. > > And worse, I have met instructors who encourage their students to go out and > get a job bouncing or, as in the case of one severe a***hole to go out, get a > puppy and then kill it. And yes, he and others I have met did encourage his > students to go out and fights. > > Thanks for the clear up. And of course you are right, there is always going to be idiots like this , which means there will always be work for people like us. > Rocky ------------------------------ From: "Vincent Bollozos" Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:06:44 PDT Subject: eskrima: sipa the game sipa is played with a weaved rattan ball 4 players each side of a net with rules similar to volleyball. it is not very popular in the RP (basketball is the king of games or sabong). it is more popular in thailand, malaysia and indonesia. it is also know as sipa takraw, takraw, sepak, & sepak takraw. there are a # of sites related to the game. vince ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: SReiter000@aol.com Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 01:42:28 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #439 << SolAndes@aol.com Subject: eskrima: Hacky Sack Hi, Does anyone have any info on whether or not old time eskrimadors played hacky sack as part of their training? I can see some of the FMA kicks when the college students stand around kicking the ball and I know there's evidence that the game came from the PI. Any training suggestions or other info would be greatly appreciated. Ken Andes >> interesting - i saw guro phil gelinas (of original DB famed, mataasna guro pekiti, guro inosanto blend ect.ect.ect) and guro loki jorgenson (same fame although not orig. DB but one now) doing a drill (i think from sikaran) where they where facing each other and in a hackey sack fashion kick each other feet at the same time (rt to rt, lf to lt) then spin clock wise and counter clockwise - in unison and unilaterally - it was one of the most impressive thing i've ever seen - the timing and coordination involved in staggering - and let me add phil is a very big boy. when i first saw him i didnt really think he was to gracefull but i found new respect for him after see the drill (and might i add the longer i know him - the more i respect his abilities) Marc denny wiites> Here is PART of his training schedule: BJJ: 5 mornings a week and 3+ afternoons..... > marc you forgot his thurs morning class amidst the schedule and the arduous tasks of having to deal with you as his BJJ training dummy and giving you privates -LOL (just kidding) > mmerilos@logistix.com Does anyone know where I can order a quality eskrima vest or top? I saw the ones at I&I Sport, but wasn't to thrilled. Any info would be appreciated. > try guro ron balicki - www.ronbalicki.com Steve Reiter -- PS - i enjoy and appreciate all the off line private e-mails i get - i have a new add (sreiter000@aol.com is good for about another month) so please send e-mails to my new add escrimador@mediaone.net - ( yea - i know it's a little pretentious - but i hated the one they gave me had to come up with one quick, and besides i do live in L.A. so alittle pretense is mandatory LOL) ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 07:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #441 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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