From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #459 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sun, 31 Oct 1999 Vol 06 : Num 459 In this issue: eskrima: Filipino Alphabet eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #458 eskrima: Getting Rid of Fat+ eskrima: Strength/size vs. Technique/skill Re: eskrima: Strength/size vs. Technique/skill eskrima: Re: declaration of ......... eskrima: -GRY Problem eskrima: New Pekiti Master Instructor! eskrima: Re: Rank eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan Eskrima, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SolAndes@aol.com Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:28:28 EDT Subject: eskrima: Filipino Alphabet Hi, I'm looking for information on the old filipino alphabet (pre-spanish). Does anyone have any links or know of any good sources of info? Thanks, Ken ------------------------------ From: "Carlton H. Fung, D.D.S." Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:17:38 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #458 Tuhon Bill wrote: <<. If they have a specific ailment they go to a doctor certified as a "specialist" and if they are really hurting, they may check to see if the specialist is "board certified">> Well this is not exactly true. You cannot compare the certificated licensed doctor with a certificated titled martial artist. Doctors must all meet certain minimum standards from their 1) educational instutution, then their 2) federal government, then their 3) state boards, then their 4) professional associations in their respective special areas like Dentistry and Plastic surgery etc. Even with all this we all have stories of bad doctors. In the martial arts there are no standards except those imposed by individuals who self-proclaim the right to impose standards and those individuals who allow these people to self-proclaim who inturn self-proclaim their position based on the first person's proclaimation! That is not recognized standards comparable to medicine. What all you instructors need to do is agree on the umbrella of martial arts and the specialties under it such as Joe Blow is certificated PHD fighter under BJJ (not a person) but could be only certificated MS teacher under BJJ. You see the term black belt today for example means fighter teacher. There are many great men who can fight and not teach and many men who are great teacher bad fighters, and self-defense people, and tournament fighters, and NHB fighters, and cage etc.... That is your challenge if instructors really want credibility for the future. The pissing contests between instructors must stop. You all will have to shimmy up to the urinal together and your students will benefit and you will make a better living because McDojo won't be able to fool the public. carl ------------------------------ From: "Mikal Keenan" Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:24:33 -0600 Subject: eskrima: Getting Rid of Fat+ > >Weights are not a terribly effective mode to burn fat. Just a friendly comment ... physiological research has repeatedly shown that weight training regimens do enhance loss of body fat ... and in a well-rounded exercise program, weight/resistance training can be one of the greatest contributors to loss of body fat. It's related to what the muscles do -after- the training. > > Bruce Lee ... had some > > other VERY unhealthy things going on in his > > life. In an Esquire interview, early 80's, Bob Wall made a few comments along this line. I'm nobody's basher, but regarding one item of comment and medical fact, consider that there is a direct connection btwn amyl nitrate (specifically increases blood flow to the heart, our limiting factor when all else is at its peak) and brain edema (swelling). ------------------------------ From: Drew Zimba Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:48:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: Strength/size vs. Technique/skill From one of the U.S.'s true "renaissance men": ***** In addition to training as a weightlifter, boxer, wrestler, fencer, and (of course) shooter, Roosevelt was a student of judo/jiu-jitsu. He lined the White House recreation room with mats to train in jiu-jitsu, creating what may have been the first Western dojo. In a letter to son Kermit, dated 02/24/1905: "Yesterday afternoon we had Professor Yamashita up here to wrestle with Grant. It was very interesting, but of course jiu jitsu and our wrestling are so fat apart that it is difficult to make any comparison between them. Wrestling is simply a sport with rules almost as conventional as those of tennis, while jiu jitsu is really meant for practice in killing or disabling our adversary. In consequence, Grant did not know what to do except to put Yamashita on his back, and Yamashita was perfectly content to be on his back. Inside of a minute Yamashita had choked Grant, and inside of two minutes more he got an elbow hold on him that would have enabled him to break his arm; so that there is no question but that he could have put Grant out. So far this made it evident that the jiu jitsu man could handle the ordinary wrestler. But Grant, in the actual wrestling and throwing was about as good as the Japanese, and he was so much stronger that he evidently hurt and wore out the Japanese. With a little practice in the art I am sure that one of our big wrestlers or boxers, simply because of his greatly superior strength, would be able to kill any of those Japanese, who though very good men for their inches and pounds are altogether too small to hold their own against big, powerful, quick men who are well trained." The quote is from "Theodore Roosevelt's Letters to His Children" edited by Joseph Bishop. ***** FWIW, Drew ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:39:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: eskrima: Strength/size vs. Technique/skill Interesting that 'Farmer' Burns, an early 20th Century American wrestler, claimed in his book(let) that he had 'tried' several Ju-Jutsu men and didn't find them especially difficult to get to submit. But then he was reputedly VERY good. Again, FWIW. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Kilap@aol.com Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:04:51 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: declaration of ......... In a message dated 10/30/99 1:04:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Interesting web site with interesting new news about Pekiti Tirsia: www.pencaksilat.org >> No disrespect for GT Gaje but otherwise is rubbish (to put it nicely) IMO. >> I should qualify what I meant here before anyone gets bent outta shape and again just an opinion - and just my own. It was with this statement in mind that I wrote the proceding; >>and is hereby recognized as the leading authority/IPSGBUSAB DIRECTOR of >>Mustika Kwitang Pencak Silat. One wonders what does Bp. Suganda, (yes that's with a g;) if I understand it right the lineage holder of Mustika Kwitang through Bp. Zakaria think? Anywho bygones and onward, Travis ------------------------------ From: Sword1969@aol.com Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:20:44 EST Subject: eskrima: -GRY Problem Hey FMAists! I have a question unrelated to the martial arts, but I know some of you guys (and women) know the answer to a riddle covered here earlier this year... There are reportedly three words in the english language that end in "-gry." Among them is "angry" and "hungry." What's a third? Thanks for those who know and contribute. Matt ------------------------------ From: "BILL MCGRATH" Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:36:58 -0800 Subject: eskrima: New Pekiti Master Instructor! Excerpt from the Fall 1999 PTI newsletter. By Tuhon Bill McGrath: This June I issued Guro Mike Popolizio his Mataas na Guro (Master Instructor) certification. Guro Mike is the first person to complete the Pekiti-Tirsia System under my instruction. When Tuhon Gaje and I first set up Pekiti-Tirsia International, we estimated that it would take someone starting Pekiti as an adult approximately 10 years to complete the whole system. Mike accomplished this task in just seven years and I am very proud of his accomplishment. Here is Guro Mike's bio in his own words, "I grew up in The Bronx, NY. and began training in boxing in 1964. I entered the New York City Police Academy in 1965. I have worked Street Patrol during assignments throughout N.Y.C. and was assigned to the Brooklyn North Task Force. I began training in Senso Aiki Jutsu under Master Richard Beherns in 1974 and found that it worked very well with my previous boxing training. JuJutsu training continued in Oshiki-uchi under Miyochi Sensei. In 1984 I began a Jujutsu school in New York. I was introduced to the Filipino Martial Arts in 1989 by Scott Carpenter, later training in Arnis with Scott Walter (Kobe system). I trained in Kuntao Silat under Roberto Torres which included training with Ba Pak Willem De Thouars in Pentjak Silat. I had the good fortune to train with Tuhon William McGrath in N.Y.C. where he taught classes beginning in 1992. A few of us were invited to train at Tuhon McGrath's home, where the training was intense, with the main focus on material contained in the "Blue Book" (PTI test book). He drove us hard, demanded excellence, and accepted nothing less. His standards on rank testing and promotions always remained high. We paid with sweat, bruises, blood, sprains and calluses...the rewards were new technique. Tuhon McGrath was always giving in both technique and encouragement, never holding back as we went from page through page in the "Blue Book"; and for this he has my utmost admiration and respect. I am presently retired from the N.Y.P.D. and teach JuJutsu and Pekiti-Tirsia in Long Island, N.Y" Guro Mike's certificate reads: "Be it known that MICHAEL POPOLIZIO having successfully completed the full course of instruction in the Pekiti-Tirsia System and having met all the requirements set forth by PEKITI-TIRSIA INTERNATIONAL is hereby promoted to the rank of MATAAS NA GURO "MASTER INSTRUCTOR" with the right to test up to and including Mataas na Guro rank and issue same in the Pekiti-Tirsia System and having the responsibility of seeing to the continuance of the Pekiti-Tirsia System (signed) TUHON GURO WILLIAM R. MCGRATH, CHIEF INSTRUCTOR, PRESIDENT, PEKITI-TIRSIA INTERNATIONAL" ------------------------------ From: "BILL MCGRATH" Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:56:13 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Re: Rank A digest member recently emailed telling me that my post on rank aided him in his decision to organize a rank structure for his system. In case others on the list are in a similar position, here is my follow-up post on the subject. I hope it helps. > > If you need any help organizing your ranks you can find the PTI rank chart > and course outline on my web page: www.pekiti-tirsia.com Obviously most of > the techniques and terms will be different, but the problems the techniques > solve will be similar. > > This chart is based mainly on my recollection of the order in which I > received the technique from Tuhon Gaje (the one exception is in the single > stick disarming series, which used to come at the very end of single stick). > As much as possible the PTI chart follows a progression something like all > the "A" level techniques in each weapon, then all the "B"s, then all the > "C"s. Most of the people who came to Tuhon Gaje to learn PT were adults who > already had a strong martial arts background and wanted to get a quick > understanding of how to fight with each weapon. He himself did not learn PT > in this order however. He started as a child and was taught first single > stick "A through Z", then all of double "A through Z", then all of espada y > daga, then all of knife, then all of hand. > > In retrospect, if I could get students to wait that long for knife and empty > hand, I would like to go back to the older method of teaching (one weapon > completely before the next). I think it would make for a better > understanding of the technique in the long run. > > One thing that has been a big help in organizing Pekiti-Tirsia instruction > for me has been the use of a test book. Each PTI member receives a test book > when they join the organization. Each page is set up as follows: > > "SOLO BASTON ABCEDARIO" (the name of the block of technique taught). > > ____________________ > Date/period taught > > > ____________________ > Instructor > > > ____________________ > Test Date > > > ____________________ > Instructor > > When a student has learned a block of instruction, the instructor will sign > their page. At a later date, when they pass the test for that block, an > instructor will sign that part of the page. This way each student has a > clear understanding of where he is in the progression of technique. It also > helps when you have students who miss a period of classes, so that it is > easy to see what they have missed. I authorize those of Guro Isa and higher > rank to test each individual block of instruction for any ranks under them, > but I only authorize those of Mataas na Guro rank and higher to test and > issue the rank itself. > > Hope this helps. > > Regards, > Bill McGrath > ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:57:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #459 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com in directory pub/eskrima/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan Eskrima, and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.