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Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest          Thur, 4 Nov 1999          Vol 06 : Num 465

In this issue:

     eskrima: Actung Steve Wolk
     Re: eskrima: Combat Fitness
     eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #464
     eskrima: Filipino Martial Arts as taught by Danny Inosanto 
     eskrima: Re: Scary Jow
     eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #464
     eskrima: Knife defence for the jury
     eskrima: Re:   Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #462
     eskrima: .
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From: AnimalMac@aol.com
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:57:55 EST
Subject: eskrima: Actung Steve Wolk

Hey guy email to you is bouncing back to me from AOhell.  Ergo posting 
through the list (Sorry Ray)

We're planning to attend the WEKAF shindig if my wife's health permits. 
Please to give the times and location again.

Animal

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From: Ray Terry <raymail>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:03:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: eskrima: Combat Fitness

> One of the toughest work-outs I have done is the Meyers
> Dumbbell Training System:
> Dumbbell Flies				1 minute; max.reps; 35 lbs. dumbbells
> Half Squats					1 minute; max.reps; 35 lbs. dumbbells
> Military Press				1 minute; max.reps; 25 lbs. dumbbells
> Leg Extensions or Calf raises		1 minute; max.reps; 25 lbs. dumbbells
> Hammer Curls				1 minute; max.reps; 15 lbs. dumbbells
> *Based on a bench press of 250 lbs., adjust weights
> accordingly.
> 
> *The practitioner should take no more than a 15 second break
> between sets and maintain circuit for 20 minutes.  An
> average circuit consists of (5) continuous sets of the five
> different exercises.

Can you describe a "Hammer Curl"?  Is that just a standard dumbbell curl?

Ray Terry
raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com

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From: SReiter000@aol.com
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 17:42:54 EST
Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #464

<< m: AnimalMac@aol.com

 You can get away with using a knife for self-defense, if you hit and move. 
In 
 other words slip to the 45 and cut as you get the hell out of Dodge. One 
 wound and running from a wounded attacker is easier to explain as 
 self-defense than 10 cuts on a body and you standing over it.>>

while i basically agree with you i'd like to add my $0.02 - it's better to be 
judged by 12 than carried by 6

steve 
win if youcan,lose if you must, but always cheat
 
 

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From: "filipino martial" <the_filipino_martial_arts@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 18:56:33 PST
Subject: eskrima: Filipino Martial Arts as taught by Danny Inosanto 

I understand there are a few of you trying to find a copy of Guru Dan’s book 
the Filipino Martial Arts as taught by Danny Inosanto
You will find a full copy at the address below

http://the-filipino-martial-arts.freeservers.com/index.html


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From: Just This Guy <steveb@herd.plethora.net>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:55:44 -0600 (CST)
Subject: eskrima: Re: Scary Jow

I wanna say this before I forget it.  Someone posted that they
know of a jow that contains apricot and peach pits as well as
aconite.  Well, the reason apricot and peach pits are incredibly
bitter is because they contain potassium. Potassium cyanide
that is.  And I can't remember what, but it seems like there is 
something bad about aconite as well.  What if you had a little
tiny cut on your hand?

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From: BENRBRAUN@aol.com
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 00:00:03 EST
Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #464

In a message dated 11/3/99 3:39:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes:

<< "This is the law: The purpose of fighting is to win!  There
 is no possible victory in defense.  The sword is more
 important than the shield, and skill is more important than
 either.  The final weapon is the brain.  All else is
 supplemental." >>

Yes, yes, yes!
I couldn't agree more!

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From: Patrick Davies <Patrick.Davies@Halliburton.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:22:06 -0000 
Subject: eskrima: Knife defence for the jury

Marc wrote:
"Guess what folks it's time for Animal to piss off all sorts of people time!
One of the things I really have to work on when kali players come to my
knife class is getting them past the idea of multible hits with a knife. Bad
idea folks. I cannot tell you how ingrained the idea of slip and then slash
slash slash is to most player's who come through my door.  Thing is it is
hard to convince a jury that you were in fear for your life when you slashed
the dude fourteen times.
You can get away with using a knife for self-defense, if you hit and move.
In other words slip to the 45 and cut as you get the hell out of Dodge. One
wound and running from a wounded attacker is easier to explain as
self-defense than 10 cuts on a body and you standing over it."
And I add:
Yup, I cant really argue with you on this but there is also the situation
where people don't know they are getting stabbed. How many times have you
read or heard about people not feeling the knife but believing that they
were just getting punched. They will continue to be a threat until they
realise that they are in worse shape so multipole slashes could actually be
a god send. Trying to tell the 12 blind men that may be tough though.

That slash slash slash thing would be a neat trick but I doubt that I could
pull it off outside the classroom. However, the furthest thing in your mind
will be what some juror pulled out of their comfy office is going to think
and the survival/fear factor will override. Even the relief of disarming
someone usually and especially in my case, has led to a huge relief/anger
factor requiring a heavy punishment beating regardless of who is around. 

Believe me I am the one who will be aware of police or security cameras and
the possible consequences as I have suffered from their existence, but in
situations such as this it isnt something you really dwell on. There are
more basic principles in play.

Yes in class we do the slash slash slash drills but we also work the pass
and slash and move off drills. But when the proverbial hits the fan I hope
that it will kick in and override the fear, panic and anger. The attacker
better hope so too.

pat

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From: "Carlton H. Fung, D.D.S." <docfung@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:09:08 -0800
Subject: eskrima: Re:   Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #462

Crafty wrote:
<As
Senator Daniel Moynihan once said in a lucid moment "The single most
exciting thing you encounter in government is competence, because it is so
rare." >

Damn you are crafty to find this quote!  I'm laughing my ass off while
rocked with disgust as I realize the shear acuracy of this statement.


<<Shimmying up to the urinal together (now there's an appealing
image!) is called anti-competitive behavior and is a violation of the
Sherman Act (anti-trust law) and others-- and properly so!  >>

Oh yeah, you are right. People in their own industry cannot get together and
agree for the common good even if the goal is not to control competition but
to make standards to level a playing field.  That would make too much
commonsence like the few doctors who get sued via RICO ment for organized
crime!  You are always an eyeopener.  It is the lawyer in you that  thinks
in chess mode.  Good job.

regards,

carl  checkers player.


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From: Ray Terry <rterry@best.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:23:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: eskrima: .


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