From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #482 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sat, 13 Nov 1999 Vol 06 : Num 482 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #481 eskrima: Sword vs limp noodle eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #480 eskrima: Teacherspeak eskrima: Hawaii Eskrima Club eskrima: Modern Arnis Forms eskrima: Arnis MPEG Video on Internet eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #481 eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Inayan Eskrima, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 FMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AnimalMac@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:26:06 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #481 In a message dated 11/12/99 1:49:27 PM Mountain Standard Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Incidentally, like Animal and Crafty did recently, I am tying the knot this weekend. Beautiful lady, inside and out that was my physical therapist after knee re-construction surgury. I'm gonna go run now, I'm gettin' stressed! - KD >> well congradulations ------------------------------ From: AnimalMac@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:55:42 EST Subject: eskrima: Sword vs limp noodle In a message dated 11/12/99 1:49:27 PM Mountain Standard Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Here I think you're focusing only on the weapon itself, rather than the other relevant issues. I agree that a sword is, in and of itself, superior to a stick, but only if you're familiar with how to use it. >> ummm folks...look at history. Face it, everytime someone with a stick beat a man with a sword, it was kind of a man bites dog story. Off the top of my head I can name three events, Musashi, Magellian and George Silver. These were the exceptions, not the rule. I mean hey, three events out of 4,000 years shows that a stick against a sword can work if you practice real hard. In the 4000 years or so of history of warfare, four types of weapons remained constant, swords, spears, pole arms and archery. It is only over the last 400 years that guns slowly (and slowly is the operative word) replaced these four standard weapons. Basically as Ned Beaumont pointed out, people who went up against these fearsome foursome with peasant weapons remained peasants. In otherwords folks, bet on two feet of sharp steel in the hands of a half-trained fighter against a stick in the hands of a master for one simple reason, you can take repeated hits with a stick, but all you need to do is touch with a sword. Oh yeah, there is also one more little detail, you can't rush a sword like you can a stick. It's kind of like trying to tackle a razor blade. This is one of the reasons I suggest to women that they get a sword for home defense. Even in a hallway where they cannot swing, rushing an edge isn't real bright. One thing that many of you don't realize is that sword fighting is truly a martial art. In my opinion it is the most subtle and sophisticated form of combat and yet it is sooo deadly and vicious. It is circles within circles within circles. And a brand new set of physics than anything else you have ever encountered. One thing I teach my students about swords is that there is no simple block. There is a primary block and then a secondary. The primary arrests the impact, the secondary block is to keep his sword from sliding past your block and slitting your throat. Thing is, you won't know which way it will come in until the actual hit. With swords you START with all the subtle wrist work that wows people in seminars presented by "masters". If you don't you bleed. Or as one of my students - who had always maintained he didn't have flexible hips -said as he contorted himself out of the way "THERE'S AN EDGE!!!!" ------------------------------ From: Jack525@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:18:22 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #480 Check out Canemasters.com. Forms are,I believe, based on Goju Karate. The canes are designed for combat and beautifuly made. ------------------------------ From: "Cory Eicher" Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 20:34:15 CST Subject: eskrima: Teacherspeak Tuhon Bill McGrath wrote: As a teacher myself (test preparation, not MA... yet), I find myself making absolute statements of that kind to my students regularly. And then correcting those absolutes over and over again as they learn the techniques well enough to advance to a more complicated level. My experience as a teacher has made me a much better student... Cory ========================================= Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: hec mail Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 19:09:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: Hawaii Eskrima Club Greeting to all, Anyone coming to Hawaii wishing to continue working out can come and visit our club anytime. We hold classes at the Young Buddhist Associations in Nuuanu (call the YBA for directions 808-537-6954). We can also point out some other schools for you to visit while you're in Hawaii. We teach the following system: Eskrima (Serrada), Largo Mano, Cadena De Mano. My name is John Lau and I run the club. My training partner Anthony Acdan also help teaches. Hope to meet some of you out there. I met some of the Lameco people when I participated in the May 97 gathering, but it was very short. I was too busy with work to meet people when I was up in California. Again, this is an open door invitation if you are visiting Hawaii. All we ask is that you keep your ego in check. If you want to get in touch with me you can call (808) 591-3513 or just email at hecmail@dwp.net p.s. Those of you in Hawaii can stop by anytime you want. Just introduce yourself. ____________________________________________ Service Brought To You By http://WWW.DWP.NET ------------------------------ From: "Ken Grubb" Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 23:03:04 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Modern Arnis Forms bbsb@worldnet.att.net asked: > Is anybody aware of videotapes that demonstrate the cane > forms (kata) and unarmed forms of Modern Arnis? By > demonstrate, I mean do the videotapes show the forms in > an instructional manner? http://www.modernarnis.com/prod02.htm The Professor currently has 7 tapes. Tape #3 contains Mano a Mano Anyos (empty hand forms) 1 to 5. Tape #5 contains Solo Baston Anyos (single stick forms) 1 to 4. Ken Grubb Bellevue, WA ------------------------------ From: "gary" Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 14:54:14 +0800 Subject: eskrima: Arnis MPEG Video on Internet Dear Tuhon Bill McGrath, I have an Arnis web site and currently I have put up about 11 MPEG videos for download. The average size of this MPEG is only about 663K it contains 4 to 5 seconds of video. The method I use is capture the MPEG in a VideoCD format MPEG, that is about 11 bits and 44,000mhz, then I use a special editing software to translate the MPEG into MPV, that is Video only with no sound, that will decrease the original MPEG for at least 30% in size. That mean more action can be contain within 1 MB. With referring to my experience, if you make the MPEG less than 1 MB, it will have no problem to download even at 28,800bps. And of course the quality is mcuh better than a low-res MPEG If you have any technical question , please email me at gary_arnis@hotmail.com gary Instructor HK Philippine Martial Art Association ------------------------------ From: "Steven Drape" Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 03:42:23 PST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #481 >Here I think you're focusing only on the weapon itself, rather than the >other relevant issues. I agree that a sword is, in and of itself, superior >to a stick, but only if you're familiar with how to use it. The post was about experienced users, as I recall. >But didn't you just say, in the previous paragraph "If he trains to use it >like a blade, then when he has the blade, he would be at an advantage"? If >they are, as you just said "not the same, not even close." then why would a >stick fighter train "to use it like a blade,". I'm confused. There are two methods of stick fighting: one which uses the stick as if it were a blade, using little or no snapping attacks, and the snapping styles, which have developed fighting based on the stick and what it can do, not just imitating a blade attack with a different weapon. >But didn't you say above that "While it is true that the angles are the >same for any weapon,"? Now you're saying "Think of the angles with the >stick, and how much they vary from each other... The angles certainly exist for each weapon, but my point is that a defense against an angle 1 stick strike is ineffective-to-useless against an angle 1 knife attack. The difference in the characteristics of the weapon make the defense against each one different. Angles are the same, responses are not! >With the knife, these >distinctions don't exist." and that "If someone is trying to do knife >techniques with stick motions, then you haven't been taught the right way >to use a knife."? If the angles are the same for any weapon then why is it >wrong to do knife with stick motions? Reality says! If you attack with an angle 1 knife slash with your arm even slightly extended as you would do with a stick or sword, you will get slashed to ribbons by your opponent, and even if you don't, you give him so much time to react that the attack would be ineffective. >It seems to me that it's not so much >that the angles or planes of attack are different, but that it's a matter >of degrees or subtleties. A downward, diagonal forehand is a downward, >diagonal forehand regardless of the weapon. However, with the knife the >movement can be smaller & tighter. Exactly right! Since the movement is smaller and tighter, the defensive technique must be different than one for a wider, more extended attack. Angles the same, defensive technique different. >There are stick motions that seem to >have little value with a blade. An obvious example would be witiks. What >purpose would hitting with the flat side of the blade serve? Again, exactly my point. Different weapons have different characteristics, and thus must be dealt with in different ways, even if the attacking angle is exactly the same. The angle of the attack is much less important than the characteristics of the weapon and the distance involved in the attack. Steve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 07:55:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V6 #482 **************************************** To unsubscribe from this digest, eskrima-digest, send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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