From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #12 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Wed, 12 Jan 2000 Vol 07 : Num 012 In this issue: eskrima: Recent seminar eskrima: oldpics eskrima: stickgrappling - pull it off in a real fight? [long] eskrima: Old adage eskrima: siniwali history [none] ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, Martial Arts Resource, and Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick Christian" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:18:10 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Recent seminar I was cruising the net in search of the meaning of life and I found the website of the school that Suro Mike Inay, Lahong Guro Steve Klement (my instuctor) and Lahong Guro Jason Inay taught a seminar. They have a nice webpage and all should pop in and visit the link is: http://www.kempo.co.uk/ Maraming Salamat, Patrick N. Christian Inayan School of Eskrima Lenoir City, TN ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:03:37 PST Subject: eskrima: oldpics Check out http://www.martialartsresource.com/filipino/oldpics.htm if you get a chance. It is a bunch of 100 year old photos from the Mindanao region of the RP. If you're on a 28.8 line it may take a bit for the page to load. Warning, some are rather gruesome... Comments?? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: bakayaru@pipeline.com Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:57:34 -0500 Subject: eskrima: stickgrappling - pull it off in a real fight? [long] Hello, It's been a long time since I posted or read ED. Work, daughter, wife, ... 1) I went to a Dan Inosanto seminar back in March '99. Anyway, he showed some Maphilindo Silat. Back then I thought, my attributes suck and I would not be able to pull off some of the moves in a real fight. He also showed some stick chokes and takedowns, which I thought were very cool. Again, in a real fight I may not be able to pull them off. Sort of like the old (compound) trapping thread being realistic in a real fight. 2) Periodically the Dog Brothers site has a stickgrappling move involving some silat moves adapted to the stick like puter kepala. I'm thinking, "yeah, right, when will I get the reference point to pull that off." or "my opponent will be caveman'ing me to death and I will not get to pull off puter kepala." The DB version has the stick inserted between the arms for the levering. 3) I watched Matt Thornton's first series and on his Aliveness vid, he stressed that some of the drills we practice are dead, e.g., he snaked disarmed vs. #1 after an inside sweep/defelection. However, he says his partner was feeding him non-realistically as a #1 comes in with more power and speed and it would be hard to inside sweep it. This got me thinking of some the drills I know and do. 4) This past weekend, weather was decent so my partner and I worked on some basic disarms, mainly snake, outdoors. We got up to working snake vs. #3 with a low shield (or is it called wing?) and I went to snake his stickarm and I was worried about what he could do with his alive hand trying to make the drill more alive. I threw a backhand punyo and then put punyo behind his neck to monitor him. POW! Like a flash of lightning, I thought, "Hey, I could do puter kepala here!" and proceeded again to try it, but instead of snaking, I controlled the wrist after the low wing/shield and inserted punyo behind neck. I could get puter kepala but I felt like I was muscling it more than I would if I did it empty-handed. I forgot the how-to details of the DB version I saw in the Dog Bytes, where the stick was inserted in at least one of the arms; this version would use less muscle and more leverage than mine. Anyway, just wanted to share something that I thought I would not ever get, and then one day, I got it. Anyone else with any stickgrappling moves you originally thought you could not pull off but then one day while training you could? I picked stickgrappling as an example because a) it's my favorite, although I'm only a beginner and b) some of the stuff looks like it will not be able to be pulled off in real life. I guess this next q. is specifically aimed at anyone who went to a Gathering or something similar in their training: were you able to pull off the 'exotic' stickgrappling moves? TIA. Very best, Hy ------------------------------ From: "Dave Murray" Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 06:48:24 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Old adage > "Better to be judged by 12 than carried by six" > That about sums up my belief on local and national > laws concerning knifes and guns. We have so many stupid laws that it is difficult to not break one, and many people have reached the point that they observe or ignore them as they please. Life in prison is preferable to death, but self defense for me is going home to sleep in my own bed at night. Death, hospitals, and jails are all a threat to that. If they don't want you to have one tool, there's always another. Peace, Dave ------------------------------ From: "Vincent Bollozos" Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 06:58:34 PST Subject: eskrima: siniwali history I was wondering if anyone had an idea how,who, why and/or when did double sticks become synonomis with siniwali? This is based on the following assumptions: Siniwali and Double sticks are not the same. Siniwali is a specific method/style of double stick fighting from centeral Luzon. Also called Macabebe style, Macabebe being a town in central Luzon. Other methods of double stick exist in other regions of the Philippines, but do not stem from siniwali. thanks, Vince ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:04:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #12 *************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, Martial Arts Resource, and Inayan Eskrima Standard disclaimers apply.