From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #14 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Wed, 12 Jan 2000 Vol 07 : Num 014 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #12 eskrima: Schools eskrima: Laws eskrima: Rudy ter Linden eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #13 eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #13 eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #12 (fwd) eskrima: Trainer in the Denver Colorado area eskrima: seminar ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, Martial Arts Resource, and Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steven Drape" Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:54:55 PST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #12 >I was wondering if anyone had an idea how,who, why and/or when did double >sticks become synonomis with siniwali? This is based on the following >assumptions: > >Siniwali and Double sticks are not the same. Siniwali is a specific >method/style of double stick fighting from centeral Luzon. Also called >Macabebe style, Macabebe being a town in central Luzon. Other methods of >double stick exist in other regions of the Philippines, but do not stem >from >siniwali. The term "Sinawali" came into the usage in the US for double sticks through Remy Presas and Modern Arnis. When he began teaching, he had three weaving drills, which he called single sinawali, double sinawali and reverse sinawali, but the meaning was not specific to double sticks. The sinawali was also done with just one stick, or with empty hands. The same drills were/are called other things by other groups (heaven and earth, broken six, etc.), but the word sinawali has somehow become synonymous with the double sticks. By the way, those drills are called pinke-pinke in Cebu, not sinawali. Steve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: RCShockley@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 20:01:18 EST Subject: eskrima: Schools I have not written this list before, but I have a question. I'm currently learning Kali Silat and Tai Chi. There is a chance that I will be moving to Salt Lake City, Utah soon and was wondering if anyone knew any instructors in that area. Rick Shockley - Griffin, GA. ------------------------------ From: "Roan Kalani Grimm" Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:22:17 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Laws Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Along the thread of laws and breaking them, here's an interesting tidbit dent to me... >Can you imagine working at the following Company? It has a little over > 500 employees with the following statistics: 29 have been accused of > spousal abuse, 7 have been arrested for fraud, 19 have been accused of > writing bad checks, 117 have bankrupted at least two businesses, 3 have > been arrested for assault, 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit, > 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges, 8 have been arrested for > shoplifting, 21 are current defendants in lawsuits. In 1998 alone, 84 were > stopped for drunk driving. > Can you guess which organization this is? Give up? It's the 535 members of > the United States Congress. The same group that perpetually cranks out > hundreds of new laws designed to keep the rest of us in line. Really kinda makes you think, huh?! Aloha, RKG "We must remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best is he who is trained in the severest school." -- Thucydides ------------------------------ From: "Roan Kalani Grimm" Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:25:48 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Rudy ter Linden Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Man, that's too bad that he passed away. I saw his videos and read quite a few articles on the man, and so it seems that yet another font of knowledge has passed on. God speed, sir. Aloha, RKG "We must remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best is he who is trained in the severest school." -- Thucydides ------------------------------ From: "Gary A. Hudgins" Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:45:07 -0600 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #13 > From: Ray Terry > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:07:23 PST > Subject: Rudy Ter Linden > > FYI, > > I just heard that Rudy Ter Linden passed away yesterday (1/11/00)... > > Ray Terry > raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com > > ------------------------------ > I think everyone knew of him. It is with great sadness that I heard the news just now on the net. Just one of the greats that have gone on. I only wish I had the opportunity to know him personally. To his family, friends, and students. If I could absorb some of your pain and feeling of loss, I would do so to help ease your emptiness. Gary H. ------------------------------ From: Taojen1@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 20:33:10 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #13 In a message dated 1/12/00 7:17:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I am sorry to inform everyone that Pentjak Silat and Kuntao legend: Bapak Guru Besar Rudy ter Linden passed away yesterday 01-11-2000 from Cancer in Holland. He was the founder of Pentjak Silat Ratu Adil, a composite system of various systems of Silat and Kuntao. He will be greatly missed. >> Bapak TerLinden was a great pioneer of the Dutch-Indonesian martial arts in the U.S. A great light has gone out. Buddy ------------------------------ From: sikal@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 20:29:58 -0500 Subject: eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #12 (fwd) << From: "Vincent Bollozos" Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 06:58:34 PST Subject: eskrima: siniwali history I was wondering if anyone had an idea how,who, why and/or when did double sticks become synonomis with siniwali? This is based on the following assumptions: Siniwali and Double sticks are not the same. Siniwali is a specific method/style of double stick fighting from centeral Luzon. Also called Macabebe style, Macabebe being a town in central Luzon. Other methods of double stick exist in other regions of the Philippines, but do not stem from siniwali. >> Given that I got this information at seminars with Dan Inosanto, I'm sure others will post it as well ... but, here goes :-) As I understand it, Siniwalli means "to weave." This being the case, then the term could, conceivably, be applied to anything from boxing (panantukan) to long & short (espada y daga) as well double stick (virtually any time your hands are "weaving" with each other). As far as the Macabebe go, as I recall, the Macabebe were merchants who often carried their wares on a long stick over their shoulder. They often carried another stick as well (either for more merchandise or to fend off dogs/animals). If they got in trouble, they'd dump their merchandise and use both sticks to fight. As I understand it (and I could be mistaken), the term Siniwalli is a generic term that is often associated with (though not necessarily confined to) double sticks while the "Macabebe" fighting style is more specific to a type of fighting. I'm by no means an expert on this and my understanding could easily be off-track. I look forward to hearing other people's thoughts on this as well :-) Regards, Mike ==== All men are the same except for their belief in their own selves, regardless of what others may think of them. -- Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------ From: "Rudolf Kimbel (100432.650@compuserve.com)" <100432.650@compuserve.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:42:28 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Trainer in the Denver Colorado area to:INTERNET:eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Hi, a buddy from another list asked me for an FMA trainer in the Denver Colorado area. He's a young cop, and he would prefer stick oriented training with less fancy stuff, but more the hard hitting approach. I'm aware of http://www.cecm.sfu.ca/~loki/FMA/ and would be happy for all suggestions. Rudolf. ------------------------------ From: "tim hartman" Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:42:57 PST Subject: eskrima: seminar Greetings, I will be doing a seminar series in the Schenectady area on Modern Arnis concepts. The topics will be compound trapping, obstruction removal, and advanced grafting. The first of this series will be February 5th at JK Kenpo Karate. For more information, contact Jeff Blay, (518) 370-4757 or jblay1@nycap.rr.com Yours Truly, Punong-Guro Timothy J.Hartman E-mail wnyima@hotmail.com School site www.wmarnis.com/school/ Federation site www.wmarnis.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #14 *************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, Martial Arts Resource, and Inayan Eskrima Standard disclaimers apply.