From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #47 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Wed, 26 Jan 2000 Vol 07 : Num 047 In this issue: eskrima: Sumbrada Cycle? eskrima: Martial use of the sjambok eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #45 eskrima: estoka parada eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #46 eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #46 eskrima: Re: Sumbrada Cycle? eskrima: SCARS+Dillman pressure point [none] ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, Martial Arts Resource, and Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Patrick Davies Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:15:12 -0000 Subject: eskrima: Sumbrada Cycle? Hi Jocelyne I teach the high box stick up first then stick down in my class. Angles by Inosanto blend You go like this. Angle 1 - inside deflection - return angle 2 - shield(stick down!! see) - angle 15 ( over the top but on the fhnd) - roof... Angle 1 - inside deflection - return angle 2 - outside deflection(stick up!! see) - angle 15 ( over the top but on the fhnd) - roof... Then you can put the angle 4 in the place of the angle 2 return to work the different heights. If they are feeding short. With your roof block drill where you can feed angle 1 to roof to angle 1 to roof (substitute wing or umbrella when you want to) except get one person to hold a pad in their other hand in a salute manner. This allows the angle 1 to be delivered to the head and makes sure that you are actually hitting your partner albeit safely Feel free to contact me anytime to discuss this and other drills I have on file Pat Aberdeen Martial Arts Group www.amag.fsbusiness.co.uk ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 07:26:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: Martial use of the sjambok On yesterdays's short 948 mile flight from San Jose to Denver I had a chance to read list member James Loriega's latest published work, The Scourge of the Dark Continent; The Martial Use of the African Sjambok. An excellent and easy read. Once I started I couldn't put it down. Loriega states, "The traditional sjambok (pronounced SHAM-bok) is a semi-rigid flail believed to have originated in the southern part of the (african) continent. The sjambok is not a whip in the conventional sense and some specimens resemble a think, flexible rod. The fact that it is constructed from think-textured hides, as opposed to supple leather, is the primary characteristic that makes the sjambok so uniquely different from the sinuous whip." I had picked up a sjambok from Cold Steel / Special Projects some time ago as it looked like an interesting flexible weapon with which to experiment. I wish I had picked up Loriega's book at the same time as it would have made the learning the weapon much easier. The book goes through the weapon itself, combat methodologies, and ideas for drills and practice to master the weapon. Yes, this weapon has a history that cause many to hate it, but then it is only a weapon and they have no control over the men that use them. The sjambok was frequently used in the country of South Africa 15/20 years ago for 'riot control'. If you're interested in flexible weapons check out the sjambok and check out Loriega's book. ISBN 1-55950-198-7. Lists for $16.95. Published by Loompanics Unlimited (www.loompanics.com). Ray Terry P.S. Our old friend, previously on the Eskrima list, Guro Tom "Tommy the Whip" Meadows is frequently mentioned and was consulted in the writing of this book. ------------------------------ From: Eagle556@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:36:51 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #45 << We get into ruts of doing the same thing for a while, and I need a new step>> Roaring girl A attacks with a strike, Roaring girl B counters that strike and returns a strike, Roaring girl A counters that strike and returns a strike, etc, etc, No more need to worry about remembering patterns. :-) Take care, Rob ------------------------------ From: brosterj@qesmansfield.schoolzone.co.uk Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:59:25 -0000 Subject: eskrima: estoka parada I have a friend who is a JKD type and poses me various questions, but I can't answer this one. He says that at the Impact Academy in Stoke on Trent (Cass Madga's rep in England)a lot of the guys were talking about something called ESTOKA PARADA, neither he nor I nor any of my friends know what this is. Ilooked it up in a Spanish dictionary and got as far as something like : moving stick' which tells us a lot. Can anyone enlighten us. Mabuhay Jon ------------------------------ From: Taojen1@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:51:27 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #46 In a message dated 1/26/00 9:52:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: Crafty wrote: << Does anyone know anything about the Arnis style of Sam Tendencia? The information I have is that it was called "Herada Batangueno" and that his teacher was named "Tidace". The spelling of the style and his teacher's name may be wrong. >> According to Wiley Mr. Tendancia studied with Remondo Gallano and Deogracias Tipace. The book says Gallano taught corto mano and Tidace taught largo mano. Both taught espada y daga. No mention of the styles names. I was very interested in Mr. Tenencias description of his hilot. Anyone know more about this? Buddy ------------------------------ From: Jonas Dyhrfjeld-Johnsen Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:06:21 +0100 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #46 Ron Balicki wrote: >I remember in the past talking to Guro Dan about the time he spent at the >Dallas Cowboy's training camp. I remember him talking about Randy White (an >offensive line man on the Cowboy's). Randy had credited over 15 of his sacks >to Guro Dan's Hubad. Getting past defensive line men can't be that easy, I >know that football is not combat, but Hubad did prove it self useful. Now I might be european and not supposed to understand this, - but I think it should be the other way around: A defensive lineman getting past the offensive linemen to sack the QB or...?? Anyway, - I recently (4 months ago) started playing on the university american football team here in Germany, - and I can surely attest that FMA helps you as defensive lineman. It at least enables me as not even a rookie but an absolute beginner, to get past people with years of experience on the offensive line. Cheers, Jonas - ------------------------------------------------------------- Jonas Dyhrfjeld-Johnsen (Ms.sc.Biophysics & Bs.sc.Physics) Graduate student in the Computational Systems Neuroscience Group at the C. & O. Vogt Brain Research Institute in Duesseldorf, Germany. (office phone +49-211-81-12095) ** What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger ! ** - ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Randy Brannan" Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:21:40 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Re: Sumbrada Cycle? Hello Ms. Thomas, I don't know if this happens to be the next one in the series that your school teaches but here's one we do. We'll call angle 2 a backhand diagonal. The mirror image of angle 1. A: Angle 1 B: Roof block with stick pointing to right not left B: Angle 2 A: Outside sweep A: Angle 1 B: Normal roof block B: Angle 1 A: Roof block with stick pointing to right not left A: Angle 2 B: Outside sweep B: Angle 1 A: Normal roof block and repeat On this drill you could also substitute a vertical strike coming right down on top of the head for angle 1. It's easier to do the reversed roof block on this. Have fun, Randy B. ------------------------------ From: Bladewerks@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:47:27 EST Subject: eskrima: SCARS+Dillman pressure point One of the first things that alerted me about the SCARS program is the marketing. Granted you have to find your market but all the hype isnt nessacary.Ive seen it and also Dillmans pressure point system/theory.There is some knowleadge to be gained in both but dont overvalue either.Stuff like that is great for compliant demo's but..... Figuratively speaking as they relate to real fighting and self-defence their value isn't $10.00,it would be more akin to $1.50. Barry ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:08:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #47 *************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, Martial Arts Resource, and Inayan Eskrima Standard disclaimers apply.