From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #76 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sun, 13 Feb 2000 Vol 07 : Num 076 In this issue: eskrima: Re: What is the world coming to eskrima: Leg hooks Re: eskrima: Kamagong sticks eskrima: Re: death, etc. [none] [none] [none] ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, Martial Arts Resource, and Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 13:55:29 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: What is the world coming to Gary, Thanks for sharing the post. You are right, what is this world coming to, seems like things like this happen more and more. I know in MT that you don't have to be the one who pulled the trigger. We have a felony murder law that if someone is killed in the process of a felony, everyone involved can be charged with the murder. We have had some interesting (and I think just) uses of this law in some of MT's cases, especially one involving a prison riot with murders a few years back. I also think you are correct. If someone just wants money or material objects, it is not worth dying for. But if you know the guy is going to shoot, it's better to go out fighting. (or shoot him first) Yours in Training, Alain Burrese http://members.aol.com/aburrese/ ------------------------------ From: Rocky Pasiwk Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:08:11 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Leg hooks Jerry Wrote: > First, let me wish Rocky a speedy recovery and say all injuries suck. On > that note, this is precisely the reason heel hooks are prohibited in > tournament BJJ. Unlike straight foot locks, the pain starts after the > injury, IOW it's hard to know when to tap and so, as Rocky found out, > dangerous even to practice. > > To expand this to a more general plane, it is great to be tough and deadly, > but, as all boxers know, not to leave your fight in the gym. > > Thanks for the speedy recovery wishes. I know that most all the leg, arm, neck, drops and hooks in Ukrainian, and Katch wrestling are illegal in the NHB stuff, if that makes any sense. Which is why I never jumped on the BJJ train that everyone is on. Not that I don't respect it and may even start training in it with Jim Birchfield here in Michigan ( a student of Rickson's ) I just knew 20 years ago that the Katch and Ukrainian guys were the a force to be reckoned with. Any ways I have been leg hooking and dropping since I was 8 years old. Sadly Jerry I think what did me in was a spar tire, ( which I have drastically reduced since the 1st of the year ) sorry Ray soon we will no longer be brothers of the poundage :-o !! But that and 33 years of age make a difference!! I may have to be put out to to stud soon!!! Better start working on my whip and chain techniques :-) Rocky ------------------------------ From: Gints Klimanis Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 13:54:54 -0800 Subject: Re: eskrima: Kamagong sticks eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com wrote: > Subject: eskrima: Kamagong sticks > > Am I spelling it right? Where can one purchase kamagong sticks? (the dark, > almost black, very heavy hardwood sticks) Also, what would that particular > type of wood be called in English? I've been told that it's Filipino > cocobolo, but that might not be the case. Please email me with any input. For 18" and 29" kamagong sticks, try: Company Kris Cutlery Notes European swords and Filipino/Indonesian daggers) FON (510) 758-9912 FAX (510) 223-8968 Address P.O. Box 133-T Pinole, CA 94564 email kriscutlery@aol.com http://www.invis.com/kriscutlery/ The catalog mentions that kamagong is also known as Macassar/Phil. ebony. ------------------------------ From: "Jerry Bikendova" Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 00:56:47 GMT Subject: eskrima: Re: death, etc. "What is this leading to. Learn weapon disarms. Learn them well. The elements we have out there are with out morals, without guilt, without any conscious what so ever. They act with no remorse. If someone breaks in on you in your home, knowing you are there, chances are he means to kill you. Might as well go for it and try to take him out first. (I am talking about cases where the perp breaks into your home, your business.) Gary Hudgins" Thanks for the info Gary. I am wondering (any lawyers/LEOs out there) why such grim statistics are never used by the good guys in the defense of a law-abiding citizen who protects him/herself ? Jerry ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Luis Pellicer Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:02:06 +0800 Subject: [none] >Am I spelling it right? Where can one purchase kamagong sticks? (the dark, >almost black, very heavy hardwood sticks) Also, what would that particular >type of wood be called in English? I've been told that it's Filipino >cocobolo, but that might not be the case. Please email me with any input. >Thanks guys, > >R. Saturno, Jr > In Manila you can get them for about P.500 ($12.50) a pair. This is high retail so they are available cheaper. LPIII ------------------------------ From: Luis Pellicer Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:37:14 +0800 Subject: [none] >What is this leading to. Learn weapon disarms. Learn them well. > The U.S. (except for some states, D.C. etc.) have relatively lax firearm laws. (At least compared to out here) Many states "must issue" conceal carry permits for civilians, for as long as they go through the proceedure and pass all requirements. It is even easier to purchase one for home defence. If someone enters my home, (and is armed) he's going to be greeted by 12 gauge 00 or .45 ACP, not a stick or blade. For realistic self-defence against firearms, I personally wouldn't rely solely in the MAs. It's a heck of alot quicker to pull a trigger half an inch or less than it is to move for any unarmed retaliation, and only if the assailant is a moron will he let you get anywhere close to him.(though there are alot of them) I would suggest spending time in the firing range and taking a couple of practical shooting courses to complement MA training, romantic ideals or National Heritage aside, this is REAL world training. Unarmed defence is to buy you time to get to your handgun, and you only use the hand gun because you can't get to (or were stupid enough to leave behind) you long arm. LPIII ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 20:08:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #76 *************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, Martial Arts Resource, and Inayan Eskrima Standard disclaimers apply.