From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #93 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Thur, 24 Feb 2000 Vol 07 : Num 093 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #92 eskrima: Lesson of the Day revisited eskrima: Commitment and Weapons eskrima: San Diego FMA Instructors [none] ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BENRBRAUN@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:07:00 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #92 Hey everybody, I had a quick question regarding the legal implications of carrying impact wapons (I'm refering to sticks specifically) in the pasenger compartment of your automobile. I own a beautiful pair of yacal (sp?) hardwood sticks that I keep in my car. I've been pulled over a couple of times and have never been questioned about them but I have the feeling that sooner or later some police officer is going to ask what they are and why I have them. I've decided that if this were to happen I would simply say that they are hardwood dowels that I'm using to make some real classy towel racks for my bathroom. It seems to me that If I were to say that they were weapons I'd only open up a can of worms that I'd rather not. Any thoughts? ------------------------------ From: TaoArt@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:05:07 EST Subject: eskrima: Lesson of the Day revisited Steve writes: << I've been studying BJJ for about 3 yrs - and shoot wrestling about 5 - first let me say that there are a couple of counters that might have been more effective - I wont go to much into detail - however a basic count to a choke is to turn into and face you opponent - if he/she is holding you around your body with one hand - they really don't have much control - if they grab onto a gi or something substantial they can prevent you from turning in on direction but not the other - secondly - as Bruce lee has said a fighter becomes a fighter by fighting - and tuhon john la coste told guro dan" once you start to experiment - you'll think yourself a genius, but all there is was already discovered" - meaning that there are some universal truths that everyone will discover, given enough time and experimentation - congrats, you happened to discover one of the basic underling principles of any "grappling" art - namely go with, not against a persons resistance. meaning use their energy against them - tai chi, akido, jiu jitsu, ect..ect.. all use the same principle - good luck on your journey of discovery >> Steve, I think you misunderstood the concept I was discussing... The guy who had me in the hold was using two hands clasped tightly. I could not escape from either direction. I could not turn into him because he simply "rode" my back. So what I used was a technique that worked against his mind - not his hold. I pulled in one particular direction and when he pulled back to keep me from rolling, I reversed direction. If he knew what I was going to do, he could have easily adjusted. But he was surprised by the sudden reversal and lost that brief moment to adjust. So the concept was not the basic idea of turning in the direction that my opponent has a weakness... it was _creating_ the weakness by making him adjust to my action and then reversing the action before he could readjust. Despite my novice level of experience in grappling, and the way I revel in learning, I never would be so pompous as to consider myself a genius. I know the stuff I am learning has been learned by others. So what? It's the process that is the beauty of it. Meghan Gardner Guard Up, Inc. www.GuardUp.com ------------------------------ From: kgrubb@ix.netcom.com Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:04:56 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Commitment and Weapons I wrote: > I'm the LAST person who would ever shoot someone to protect my life. Paul Martin wrote: >Well, I hope that never has to get tested Me too. > what is the difference between having to shoot someone in self > defense and using any other tool in self defense when it comes > to the issue of commitment? In terms of commitment, none. Legally, different weapons are warranted under different circumstances and different levels of threat. Shooting an aggressive panhandler is probably tantamount to excessive force, but open hands and maybe even closed hands are probably justified. > Legality aside, how can any FMAer - practicing an art that keys > in on adapting to the environment - say that with one weapon you > would be committed to defending yourself but with another you > wouldn't. In the moment, under the stress of a self defense > situation (or someone in my family in the same peril), I would > hope that I wouldn't hesitate to use what ever I had on hand - > even if it were a gun that the attacker dropped and I got to it > if I wasn't carrying one - which I don't on a normal basis. > Personal weapon, or weaponless, preference aside, we train in > an art of versatility. I guess I have some difficult reading what you wrote into what I said. But, lemme 'splain ma self. First, I'm almost always armed with a gun and a knife and probably something else. But whether I'm armed with a stick, knife, gun, automobile, man-portable thermonuclear device, light saber, Mark XII Plasma rifle, or mere open hands, I seek to avoid and/or evade trouble. If it's just me, I'm far more fleet on my feet than say if my wife is with me. But nevertheless, if I have a reasonable means of egress when trouble strikes, I'll take it. I'm not really sure how or why you implied commitment to defend myself and my family, or a lack thereof, in my words, but if I led you to that conclusion then I mispoke. > Would you hesitate to use your car as a self defense tool, > if it were your best option? Most definitely NOT -- not hesitate that is. Whether used to drive away, run over an attacker, or both. Compare a 125 grain bullet at 1400 fps to a 3,000 lb automobile at even 5 mph. The auto blows away [pardon the pun] the Power Rating of the bullet. > What other tools has anyone theorized about the ways of using > as a self defense tool? After class on Saturday, several of us went out to lunch. Somehow, the conversation got around to my Guro asking me "If all you had as a weapon was that empty plastic ketchup bottle, what could you do with it?" No sharp edges, not really hard enough to inflict substantial blunt force trauma, and not even ketchup to squirt at the eyes of an opponent to distract or momentarily blind. But, thrown it could be used to distract. Some time ago, there was a discussion on the Tactics List in which Greg Hamilton (Insights) noted that if armed only with chop sticks and bowling balls he could mount an effective defense. Fighting is a mind set either one possesses or does not. Anything could be a weapon with the proper mind set. Ken Grubb Bellevue, WA Committed, but not looking for trouble. Armed and willing to use it should that become necessary, but seeking to avoid a fight when possible. Determined and decisive should action be needed, but happy to win by not fighting. ------------------------------ From: BillyJa695@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:44:08 EST Subject: eskrima: San Diego FMA Instructors Hi Folks, I just heard from a long lost friend of mine recently. He's living in the San Diego California area and is looking to get back into the martial arts after a brief layoff (due to Ph.D work and post doc work). Does anyone on this list know of any reputable FMA instructors in the San Diego ? My friend has no experience in FMA but may want to look into it so there is no FMA style preference for the time being. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Brian Johns Columbus, Ohio ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:30:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #93 *************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.