From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #100 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sun, 27 Feb 2000 Vol 07 : Num 100 In this issue: RE: eskrima: Guro Dan Inosanto's old book eskrima: Re: Baseball bat vs. knife eskrima: Re: Death Match eskrima: upstate ny knifework eskrima: Bat v Knife [none] ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: abass@iname.com Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:53:56 -0500 Subject: RE: eskrima: Guro Dan Inosanto's old book There is also a link to a downloadable version at: http://www.geocities.com/kalipages The online version at freeservers.com is a bit slow and you can only see one page at a time. The downloadable version overcomes these limitations. ash ------------------------------ From: Todd Ellner Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 19:20:10 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Re: Baseball bat vs. knife The weapon I'd choose would be the one I could get my hands on first. That assumes, of course that a) there's no way I can get the hell out of that ring b) I can't get the other guy to agree that we should both zip the guy who stuck us in there c) I can't give lots of submission signals and get convince the other guy not to kill me (thereby avoiding the fight) d) I don't have some really overwhelming motivation to be in the fight. "Money" would not be an overwhelming enough motivation. Neither would "breeding rights" or "fame". Todd ------------------------------ From: Phil Martino Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:41:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: Re: Death Match The knife or the baseball bat... what's a Sicilian to do?!!!!! Is this one of those rhetorical questions or one of those trick questions that ends in "If you do not master the weapon; the weapon will master you." *lol* Phil "Rhino Style" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Thomas Paul Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:07:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: eskrima: upstate ny knifework I am a dedicated lurker here, due in no small part to the fact that my actual FMA experience goes only about as far as renting one of Paul Vunak's videos and picking up siniwali from it. While I dig the ideas and commentary, I have not much in the way of technical info to contribute. I do, however, have about 13 years of training and a Nidan in Judo, a decade's worth of weekend nights bouncing, a rather dusty kyu rank in Kendo addition to a fair amount of dabbling with some other arts. Is there anyone in the Albany, NY area with any Kali experience who is willing to trade techniques/work out? I am particularly interested in knifework. Sincerely - --ThomP!! ------------------------------ From: Luis Pellicer Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:50:47 +0800 Subject: eskrima: Bat v Knife OK, never having been in a situation as described (nor looking forward to doing so either.) I would pick the bladed weapon. For as long as the guy with the blade has resolve, his chances of inflicting a mortal wound ARE better.(all else, speed, skill, size etc. being equal.) There was an interesting scene in a program I saw over the weekend which kind of confirmed my preferences. (Americas most Amazing videos, or something like that.) A guy was harassing people with a knife on some Italian bridge and the cops were called in to deal with him. Given the deduced factors in the scenario : Police The knifeman Weapons Hardwood truncheons & knife riot shields Background some training no training Body armor looked like some none The knife wielder was able to inflict wounds on THREE policemen before finally being taken down by FOUR. He was able to shrug off the strikes (to the head and upper body) and STILL CUT DESPITE THE FACT THAT HE OBVIOUSLY DIDN"T KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING, AND HE WAS FACING MULTIPLE ATTACKERS SO COULDN'T FOCUS ON ANYONE EXCLUSIVELY. Had there been only one policeman for him to deal with, it would have been a bloody mess, in the knifemans favor. Sometimes we don't realize how powerful a precise impact strike is needed to incapacitate a determined opponent, with a bladed weapon it's no problem. Slice & bleed, miss-hits still bleed and strength of the stike isn't a major determining factor in the effectivity of the attack. This is why after 18 years of "mixed" training in the FMA, I have been training blade exclusively the last 7. LPIII ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:02:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #100 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.