From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #107 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Thur, 2 March 2000 Vol 07 : Num 107 In this issue: eskrima: fighting continuim eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #106 eskrima: www.fullcontacthi.com eskrima: Courage eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #105 eskrima: It is not which is best but which is first eskrima: EEMD Boston! [none] ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carlton H. Fung, D.D.S." Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:35:58 -0800 Subject: eskrima: fighting continuim Mike, I think only one thing is important true understanding of your place in the fighting continuim. That is it. That is the whole story. Courage is what you need when you need to do something but you are unsure how to do it. And unsure what the outcome will be but sure of what the downsides can be. If you understand then FC you do not need courage because all of these problem are answered. Regards, Carlton H. Fung, D.D.S. Redondo Beach, Ca > >For our purposes here, I will divide the attributes or skills necessary for > >fighting into the following categories: > > > >1. Footwork & body positioning (Mobility in your firing platform) > >2. Flow (The ability to fluidity change from one technique to another) > >3. Timing (The ability to do the right thing at the right time) > >4. Striking (Delivering force) > >5. Blocking* (Defending against force) * see note at end of article > >6. Clinching (Including trapping) > >7. Grappling (Both standing and on the ground) > >8. Strategy (Your battle plan) > >9. Courage (The ability to overcome fear in order to achieve your goal) > >10. Aggressiveness (Your willingness to deliver punishment) > > > > To my mind the answer to the initial question is simple and straightforward: > No. 9 - courage. > > Without it one can possess all the other nine attributes which will be > useless withou the courage to apply them. With courage one can make up for a > lot of deficiencies ------------------------------ From: Eskrima0@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:27:36 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #106 With regards to the full contact seminar coming up, please be careful. I was taking part in full contact sparing, 8 weeks ago, and guess what? Yes, my leg is still in plaster and will be for another 2 months. Andrew ------------------------------ From: Chad Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:03:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: www.fullcontacthi.com www.fullcontacthi.com has been updated. "Progressions In Sparring" is up now along with a brief overview of the upcoming tape series. ===== "Draw me not without reason, sheath me not without honor" Chad Hawaii __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Chad Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:46:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: Courage >BTW, can one teach courage?? >Mike Koblic, >Quesnel BC I don't think so, but perhaps one can learn it. ===== "Draw me not without reason, sheath me not without honor" Chad Hawaii __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Steven Drape" Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 03:10:58 PST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #105 >Good point. NOW what I'm REALLY interested in is looking deeper into some >info which I picked up in the provinces. (Quezon and Camarines Sur, in >areas which were a couple of hours from what we would call a "town". Out >there for huntin'.) I was told that there were "old escrimadors" very >proficient with the blade who live up in the mountains and only come to >town to sell thier produce, or join in if there is a fiesta. These are guys >who still live by the blade, and are innaccesible to most FMAers unless : This has nothing to do with anything, except it concerns one of those "out in the province" masters. I live in Cebu Province on a small island called Camotes. I was introduced to a guy from the interior who was quite an expert with the bolo. We never had much chance to train, as I was constantly going back and forth to "civilization" (Cebu City), but my foreman, who had trained with me some, had begun training with him. One night, there was a fiesta, and the master was present and enjoying himself- in other words, drinking a little. He raised his arm to drink from his glass and was stabbed in the armpit by a long-time enemy, and killed. I relate this with some regret, because as Luis says, some of these guys are the true masters, the ones who have been using the Art for their whole lives. As I said, no point really to this story, except to just remind people how little value training can be if it is not combined with awareness and some minimum level of caution. Steve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Kimberley Hobbs" Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 09:47:07 NST Subject: eskrima: It is not which is best but which is first Hi all, Just a few thoughts on Tuhon Bill's post. I agree that whatever you learn first becomes your foundational technique and becomes instinctive. The first things I learned were footwork ( basic boxing type footwork like staying up on the balls of your feet, and Filipino footwork patterns like the male and female triangle) and evasions. These skills are invaluable and have become instinctive. I am now working on flow ( changing from one tecnique to another) and strategy since everyone fights with a different style (I'm most comfortable at close range (punching/trapping). As for which is the best order to teach the skills (speed, power, strength, or mental) I think it ultamately depends on the student and what skills he/she already posesses. There are a few guys in the junior level class at my school that seem to be all power (their kicks and punches make you feel like you've been hit by a Mac truck) but they are sadly lacking in control. The instructor trys to get them to work on accuracy by encouraging them to pull their punches and kicks and concentrate more on tecnique than on power. There are other students (and I'm sad to say these are mostly females) who lack aggressiveness. Since our school focusses more on the self defense aspect of Martial arts than the competitive aspect, we encourange students to put emotional content into each drill, so that if faced with a threatening situation on the street, they can tranfer skills learned in class to the "real world" The same basic skills are tought to everyone in the class but students are encouraged to find their own interpretation/expression so that they make it work for them. This requires a little more attention on the part of the instructor than if everyone were doing the same drill the same way, but I think that in the long run it is much more effective. Kim Hobbs ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "C. Herrman" Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:16:06 -0500 Subject: eskrima: EEMD Boston! Hi Tim, Guro Jason beat us to the punch - no surprise there! On behalf of the students at EEMD i'd like to extend the invitation to visit our school as well. It's always nice to have visitors and I hope you will be pleased with the quality of instruction and lack of egos. Thursdays are exclusively FMA, other days we rotate what we're training. I'm not sure what the public transportation situation is from Burlington. There may be a commuter rail line that runs from burlington to south station (check www.mbta.org). Either way if you can get to the "T" (subway) you are in good shape. From South Station take the Redline (it will say "Braintree" on the front and side of the train) to the North Quincy stop. Exit the station, cross the street and walk to your right to the lights (about 100 feet). Walk down the ramp. School is across the street at the bottom of the ramp (Universe Gym of North Quincy, 31 Newport Avenue). If you're driving it's 93 south to exit 12 (but i would get details from somebody else before heading down - Boston isn't built on a grid!). Have a safe trip, Chris H. citrus7@mindspring.com student: EEMD ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:42:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #107 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.