From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #110 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Fri, 3 March 2000 Vol 07 : Num 110 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Soft Sticks eskrima: Angel, RIP eskrima: Summer Camp in the Pacific Northwest eskrima: re: guard on Filipino blades eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #109 eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #109 [none] ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ted Truscott" Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 07:31:07 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Re: Soft Sticks Hi, JON CURTIS I like the Lameco sticks fine and for some purposes Sonny Umpad's rubberized ones are pretty good too but they bend more around the block and you still get hit but for qiet apartment stick to stick use they are fine. - ------------ Ted Truscott The Fighting Old Man ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:31:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: Angel, RIP RIP Angel Cabales March 3, 1991 ------------------------------ From: "Ken Grubb" Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:11:59 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Summer Camp in the Pacific Northwest Bellevue Martial Arts Academy (Modern Arnis in Bellevue, WA) will be holding Summer Camp the weekend of August 25-27. Punong Guro Hufana is inviting other FMA schools in the area who are interested in attending for FMA training on Saturday and Sunday. Guro Ariel Moses of Moses Lake, Washington (SOG Eskrima) will be there along with some of his guys. More schools with more styles means more cross training. Camp will be held at Lake Chelan just north of Wenatchee, Washington. Two highlights, at least for me, were the water training (locks and takedowns in the water) and sparring at night by the light of tiki torches. PG said he'd probably have to limit number of participants to 50. There were 14 of us last year and probably will be a few more this year, so there is space available. If interested contact: Punong Guro Myrlino P. Hufana 1313 - 156th Avenue NE, #100 Bellevue, WA 98007 (425)643-8488 mailto:BMAA@Arnisador.com http://www.arnisador.com/default.asp Ken Grubb Bellevue, WA ------------------------------ From: "Nate Defensor" Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:57:39 -0600 Subject: eskrima: re: guard on Filipino blades ...another angle on the missing guards on Filipino blades is some of the knifemakers (pande or panday) are also very good Escrimadors. Some are very proud of their skills, almost too proud, that to put a guard on one's blade would connotate "poor art, poor or weak practitioner, and thus showing some sort of weakness". Also to reiterate the fact that knives and bolos are often used as farming or utility tools in everyday lives of some Filipinos, especially in farms and fishing villages. A utility blade with a guard is inconvenient. Most of the blades, not all, and short knives with guards came later after the Spanish occupation. Shapes of handles & blades are also related to religious practices in some areas may they be Muslim, Christian or animism. Some of the shapes can also be attributed to one's tribe or barangay. Peace, Nate Defensor ------------------------------ From: "Steven Drape" Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 09:19:26 PST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #109 >IMO You miss out one important element on your list Tuhon: conditioning >With it each one on the list is determined. >By conditioning im talking about being fit, having wind. An unfit able >fighter will lose in most cases to a fitter less able fighter (eg:Tyson v >Douglas). I would disagree with this post. In a normal fight in the real world, conditioning has little or nothing to do with anything. I have seen/been part of more than a few fights, and the only one that lasted more than a minute was a fight between two women. (It went ten minutes and finally stopped due to exhaustion!) In most real fights, the victory goes to the aggressor, or the one who is willing to take the fight to the other guy. We would like to believe that the fittest guy should win, but that beer-bellied, out-of-shape biker will kick that fit, slim and trim martial artist's ass 99 times out of 100. Steve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Vincent Bollozos" Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 10:35:27 PST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #109 >From: mac moraleja >Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 17:01:17 +0800 >Subject: eskrima: Re:-[Why no guard on the Filipino sword] > > >Why is there no guard on filipino swords? >In my home province(Laguna,Souther Luzon) swords are not >used(commonly). Bolos ("itak" or "gulok") were used primarily as >utility and secondarily as a weapon. It is very inconvenient to >something with guard. > >Remember the time were Filipinos were not allow to carry weapons, and >"Gulok" only when they are going to the farm? How can one explain to >the "guardia sibil" that his sword with guard is his utility and he is >on his way to the farm. > Itak and gulok are like you said utility blades, but that does not explain swords that are not utility based i.e. pinuti, ginuting, barong, pedang... or regions where weapon bans were not strongly enforced. interior of Mindanao (Lanao, Cotabato, Bukidnon...) and Sulu I forgot the Kampilan does have a guard, but its the only one I know of in addition the guard like shape of the Kris blade. The only reasoning I came up with why the Kampilan has a guard is that is because of the size of the blade you need the support the guard might give. This is however, purely conjecture. But (and I maybe wrong here) even the short swords of Europe, China, Japan has a guard. so again I put the question to you.. Vince ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:33:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #110 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.