From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #116 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Mon, 6 March 2000 Vol 07 : Num 116 In this issue: eskrima: fit for fighting eskrima: Pekiti-Tirsia in NYC eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #115 [none] eskrima: Skills list update [none] ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rocky Pasiwk Date: Sun, 06 Jan 1980 17:21:16 -0800 Subject: eskrima: fit for fighting I personally have never seen or been in a real street fight that had the out come determined by the physical fitness of a fighter. Mental preparedness, and aggression, along with the ability to flip the switch ( as my student Bryan would say ) has almost always determined the out come. Although fitness is still important, if you stay somewhat fit you may survive a beating that you might not other wise been able to, you will heal faster, being physically fit may give you the extra aggressiveness that may determine your willingness to "Flip the Switch". And this I know from personal experience, when I was lean and mean, and extremely fit, ( I started bouncing when I was 16, with a tight tank top no one ever questioned my age ) not to many people messed with me. At 28 years old ( till present ) an carrying 60 extra pounds around my mid section, I have had countless punks say smart ass remarks to me thinking I am easy prey. this is the usual MO of trouble makers. As a side note since 1989 when I started trying to figure out how I was going to teach my family blend along with my FMA blends, one beneficial thing that many of my current students have noticed is that over the last 6 years the restructuring of my method of fighting is in such a way that it caters to the needs of an average Joe, and not the Charles Atlas type. The tech. are designed for pure fighting nothing fancy. To coin an old boxing phrase that Crafty uses ( sorry dude) if you see it taught you see it fought. This is not to say that being physically fit is not the idea way to go. I encourage everyone to stay as fit as possible, it can only increase the quality of your life, and ensure that you are around long enough to pass on what you learn. And take it from experience don't let yourself get to far out of shape, you'll play hell trying to get back in. And another note I too witnessed a very long fight between two girls many years ago, they had been sniping at each other for years so at ta party they started again this time everyone decided maybe it would be good to let them finally get it out of their systems. Well by time time they were done I was ready for a nap! It was like a 3 hour movie that would have been really good if it was 2 hours shorter. In the end they quite out of exhaustion, neither was really hurt, and I think that was pretty much the end. Rocky ------------------------------ From: Stuart Pauker Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 18:48:52 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Pekiti-Tirsia in NYC Thank you to Tuhon Bill and Ken McDonough, Tuhon Bill, I will check out your website and the other one you mentioned - I would be honored to train with you in Fishkill. I look forward to reading your site. And ken, I actually used to train under Professor James at the VAJ headquarters. Excellent street self-defense. I've now splintered my training. Wrestling with a local wrestling club, Muay Thai with Coban Lookchaomaesaitong(always spell his name wrong) at the Ultimate Gym, informal BJJ with friends who train at Renzo Gracie's academy, and now I'd like to add some FMA. But you are correct - VAJ is a superb art. I left after I felt that it was being watered down with some really weak muay-thai training. Regards, Stuart Pauker ------------------------------ From: AnimalMac@aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:18:43 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #115 In a message dated 3/6/00 3:00:46 PM Mountain Standard Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << > I would like to hear Marc MacYoung (animal) comment here. Ya wanna hear my full rant about peasant weapons? Actually I swiped the term from Ned Beaumont in his book "Championship streetfighting" (which despite its title is a pretty good book on boxing). Basically you can figure that the side that can kill most effectively at the greatest distance (as allowed by the circumstances) will win the war. This is the difference between personal fighting and warfare. You can be the greatest hand to hand, one on one fighter and it won't matter under these circumstances. That is why the Martial arts are a misnomer. The art of war is a little bigger than personal skill and bare handed fighting. Until the invention of the machine gun there really wasn't an effective way stop a charge at a distance (Anjacourt not withstanding, but those nitwits were trying to run up a muddy hill and were sitting ducks). That is why it went hand to hand. As the guns improved, the emphasis on hand to hand went down. Also remember that fighting against guerrillas isn't that hard if you aren't worried about butchering innocents. Guerrillas rely on the support of the populace (if nothing else the supplies). Go out and slaughter a village that is supplying the guerrillas and sit back and let them starve up in the hills. The next village over will drive out of the guerrillas rather than risk the same treatment. When faced with the choice of stavation, looting, murder and pillaging of your entire village or putting up with a different leadership it's not really a hard decision. Finally stop and think. The Mask of Zorro was right. When Anthony Hopkins bodychecked a drunk and enraged Antonio Banderas and said "that man is a trained soldier, you don't have a chance" He was RIGHT! It is hard for modern day people to understand the skill and talents of professional soldiers/mercenaries/ conquestadors. The art of the sword is one of the most beautiful, yet deadly arts there is. Most of what people wax poetic about with Okinawan weapons were best used in a dark alley and from behind when the guy was drunk -- not face to face with a drawn sword. These guys lives depended on them being able to use a blade. If your life depended on it wouldn't you practice? And that is all they did. Unlike the farmers, they didn't have to bring in the crops. The average farmer's chances of surviving against a conquestador is about the same as your chance to survive against a SEAL. ------------------------------ From: "tim hartman" Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 19:17:09 PST Subject: [none] Greetings to All- I am proud to announce that Horizon Martial Arts, in conjunction with Warriors' Den Products, will have the honor of hosting the seminar that will start off the new millenium. On April 29, 2000, in Buffalo, NY, Grandmaster Remy Presas (Modern Arnis) and Dr. Maung Gyi (Bando) will be conducting a joint seminar for the second time in their martial arts history. Professor Presas will be teaching compound stick trapping and grappling. Dr. Gyi will be teaching bando boxing and python staff. This seminar will be $60 by April 20th; $75 after April 20th. Group rates are available. For additional information, contact Tim Hartman at (716) 675-0899 or by mail at P.O. Box 5, West Seneca, NY 14224. Yours Truly, Punong-Guro Timothy J.Hartman E-mail wnyima@hotmail.com School site www.wmarnis.com/school/ Federation site www.wmarnis.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "BILL MCGRATH" Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:05:48 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Skills list update Here is an updated version of my martial arts skills list. 1. Rules of Engagement (When to fight - morally and legally) 2. Conditioning (cardio-vascular and muscular) 3. Footwork & body positioning (Mobility in your firing platform) 4. Flow (The ability to fluidity change from one technique to another) 5. Timing (The ability to do the right thing at the right time) 6. Striking (Delivering force) 7. Blocking* (Defending against force) * see note at end of article 8. Clinching (Including trapping) 9. Grappling (Both standing and on the ground) 10. Strategy (Your battle plan) 11. Courage (The ability to overcome fear in order to achieve your goal) 12. Aggressiveness (Your willingness to deliver punishment) # 1 was not part of our training under Tuhon Gaje, but I consider it is an important part of training. I've added #2 because Pat Davis has finally convinced me to add conditioning as a separate category of our skills list. I posted the original article in the hope that other experienced instructors would give their input. Not so much on which skill gets their vote as the most important, but (taking the view that they all have value) which is the best specific order in which to teach them. For instance, most Aikido schools teach locking first then striking, but a friend of mine who teaches Ju-Jitsu teaches boxing first then grappling. My own personal views: given at least one year to work with someone, I would teach in the order given above (for the reasons I gave in my original article). If I had just a few weeks to work with a student, I would teach in the reverse order of the above items (though the "rules of engagement" would still be # 1). I would like to hear from other instructors on the order they would choose for each of two groups of students; Group 1. training for one or more years and Group 2. for just 6 weeks. You don't have to use all the categories, just which order you would teach certain skills in and why. Regards, Tuhon Bill McGrath www.pekiti-tirsia.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:41:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #116 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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