From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #141 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Tues, 21 March 2000 Vol 07 : Num 141 In this issue: eskrima: Knees+ eskrima: Women in Martial Arts eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #140 eskrima: Statement to Tuhon McGrath comment on "Females in MA training" eskrima: Ernie Reyes, Jr. eskrima: Kali in South Florida eskrima: Ho ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mikal Keenan Date: 21 Mar 00 12:42:03 CST Subject: eskrima: Knees+ > > Chiropractic can be great (no surprise that it was a C. who came u= p > with > > the diagnosis) BUT IMHO most Cs have tunnel vision on the bones. I w= ould > > suggest that you spend even more time on the muscles-- which are what= pull > > the bones out of place. The muscular-skeletal system is a marvel of > > tensegrity (look it up-- its a cool concept). Many Cs will gladly sp= end > > years adjusting you-- and it does bring relief-- but in my experience= you > > need to get to the muscles and postural issues involved OK, gotta add $0.02 to this one. There's a gross micconception here re: chiropractic and the musculoskeletal system. Chiropractic is primarily a= ll about everything about the entire musculoskeletal system plus some extens= ioins into visceral and other effects of the impingements that disrelationships= btwn musculoskeletal stuctures can make on other systems (e.g., via the nervou= s system). How do I know? I graduated from Northwestern College of Chiropractic in 1984 :-) Depending on the nature and cause of a problem, one of the first things t= hat a good "chiro" will do is prep the muscular stucture to allow for easy repositioning of bones. An integral part of any treatment plan will be exercise. In-office treatment may include various treatment modailities targeting the -muscles- (including targeted massage, electro-stim, galvan= ic, ultrasound, etc.) before any adjustments are done. A good "chiro" will a= lso know that over-adjustment can eventuallt result in nothing less than what= sparins do for joints ... make them sloppy ... but then that's a function= of his/her technique. While in school I had a girlfriend whose sacroiliac g= ave her hell. The chiropractor that she went to for relief used a technique = that gave her even more pain. I fixed it for her in less than a second using = what is knwon as a "drop table" which accelerates the adjusting movement there= by reducing the amount of force required to move the sacroiliac joint, and totally eliminates the rotation of the lower back as used by her usual therapist. Muscles do not pull the bones out of place if the misalignment is due to trauma. They can form an antalgic (pain-relieving) pattern in response t= o the misalignment and whatever pain it might involve ... which causes a viciou= s cycle of pain, muscle spasm and continuing musculoskeletal distortion. Oh yeah, the knees ... the hips do not drive what happens at the knee. T= he feet the hips, the spine ... all related. A "distortion" in the lower ba= ck can cause pelvic misalignment(s). A "distortion" in the feet or a foot c= an cause pelvic misalignment(s). One of the quickest ways to disturb the kn= ees is to change the type of shoes that you wear. What happens at the foot a= nd ankle more directly drives what happens in the knees than anything else .= =2E. there is more "play" in the assembly of musculoskeletal structures of the= pelvis and lumbar spine than there is in the feet and ankles, next stop u= pward is the knee. This is where FootLevelers can play a great role (but I don= 't want to go commercial here :-) Theories come a dime a dozen, proof is wh= ere it's at. You got knee problems? In your search for resolution (after ta= king care of the knee itself) look at your feet first. Maintenance for knees: Standing ... palm the kneecaps = #1 Slide the kneecaps around as though polishing the knees. #2 Circle the knees 8-12 times in each direction. #3 Slide the hands to the lower thigh and point the fingers toward each o= ther, bend the knees and push them side to side, hands on side of thighs. #4 Palm the kneecaps again and flex/extend the knees 8-12 times, pushing = back when you straighten the legs in extension. #5 Stand, separate feet about shoulder width, place hands at level of hip= sockets and circle hips 8-12 times in each direction. Do all of the above SMOOTHLY. Do all of the above EVERYDAY. Live well, Mik ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ From: TaoArt@aol.com Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:45:11 EST Subject: eskrima: Women in Martial Arts Tuhon Bill McGrath wrote an interesting summary of the history of mankind. However, I would like to add a few extra points: In many historical as well as pre-historical societies, the woman did, indeed, stay at home to provide for the children and "keep" the home... yet in a suprising amount, these women were also the "last line of defense" against invading forces. They may not be able to swing a broadsword, but they could make use with whatever was at hand. There were a number of cultures (Japan, Scotland, Ireland, Spain, to name a few) that trained their women in how to use various weapons for the purpose of defending the children and themselves if the enemy succeeded in breeching the defensive line. Women have not lost the ability to fight, nor have they lost the desire to learn. It hasn't been bred out of them... it has been subdued to a miniscule state by our own upbringing. So I don't think that using the word "insinct" can aptly describe some women's aversion to learning self defense. I would chalk it more up to nurture instead of nature (and nature is where I categorize "instinct"). This is beginning to change as we see more girls getting involved in soccer, basketball and other more aggressive sports. I am relieved to see that my 5 year old daughter is not told in kindergarten that she is being "unladylike" when she wrestles with the boys. And she has taught a few of them to re-think the old saying "hits like a girl". :) I have trained in the arts since I was a kid. So it is often easy for me to forget how intimidating it can be for many women to step into my training hall. It also doesn't help that I am 6' tall and really enjoy contact sparring. They see me get whacked with a right cross from our male boxing coach, shake it off, laugh, and continue on. They say "I can't do that" and wonder what makes me different. It isn't that women can't handle pain... many give birth and, speaking from experience (13 broken bones, 18 stitches and sprains too numerous to count), very little comes close to the pain of giving birth. And yet women do it voluntarily. But they have been raised watching girls who are tough be called "tom-boys"... as if they were less "girl" than the other girls. Please don't take this post as a feminist bitching session. I don't own the label "feminist" because I do not agree with many of the positions that are associated with that term. But I would greatly appreciate it if just one father or mother or teacher out there would stop and think before they tell the next girl they see that she can't or shouldn't do this or that because it is too rough, too messy, or just plain "not for girls". Thank you. ::stepping off stump:: Meghan Gardner Guard Up, Inc. www.GuardUp.com "Carry love in your heart and a knife in your pocket at all times." me ------------------------------ From: AnimalMac@aol.com Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:11:27 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #140 In a message dated 3/21/00 10:49:28 AM Mountain Standard Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Let's simplify this a little. If I were to shoot you (AnimalMac) with a nerf gun and you were startled and fell, cracking your skull. Is it really my fault you eat through a straw? >> While a techincal answer would be yes, we can seriously subtract intent from the equation, which makes it an unfortunate incident and an accident. While legally you could be held liable - your actions, this is the result - it would be unlikely that it would be viewed as a dangerous act with intention to cause harm. Still the courts could find you liable. Your argument would hold up better however if there wasn't a really popular attitude among gangmembers regarding "mushrooms" (their term, not mine). These are people who get killed during a driveby but were not the target. Many of the people who deal with criminals in the court system whom I have talked to agree about the tendency of criminals to deny responsiblity for their actions. I'm not exaggerating when I say you can (and often do) hear comments like "Yeah I fired the gun, but I didn't murder that person. I was trying to kill the other guy." It's almost as if the bullet that doesn't hit the intended victim doesn't count" >More to the point, what if we were playing Olympic Nerf shooting? The fellows in question were playing a violent game where checking and lovetaps occur all the time. And what do the rules say about "Sticking?" Perhaps the rules are there to prevent this very behavior. Whether on the street or in a game, intentional blows to the head with a club are, last time I looked, bozo no-nos. The only place they are allowed is in warfare. Shy of that arena it is generally frowned upon and considered an intentional and malicious act. ------------------------------ From: ptbernd@gmx.de Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:35:12 +0100 Subject: eskrima: Statement to Tuhon McGrath comment on "Females in MA training" Hi there! I would like to give a comment on Tuhon McGrathī mail. Because of its length I do not print it out - please refer to the digest #140! First of all, I MAINLY AGREE WITH TUHON BILL - all of the quoted researches can be found easily, although - how far as I know - the typical old roles of "man = hunter / woman = nurse" are not so sure anymore. Anyway, that is not my point of discussion. I would like to point out that even in our days women still get discriminated and treated violently by society and men. The pictures those studies and researches provoke will not help reducing the discrimination. By the way, it is still not clear if the genetics or the society/education or both is the reason for the differences - the younger the kids, the smaller the differences (hormons or education/socialization???). Therefore, society - we all - should respect all women (of course!!!)in the way they are and should give their roles and character the same important value as the male ones get. AND: Martial arts are perfectly suitable for extending their personal qualities to get mainly more self-confidence and trust in her own capacities. To say "women are not as strong and fast as men" is - again - a discrimination, not because of the researches which give evidence. It is a discrimination because of telling them "You will never be as strong as men - no chance, donīt even give it a try!" All of us know that women can do a lot even as good as or even better then men. The filipino culture has examples for that, too. I know a lot of women who can run faster, kick harder etc. then I can, and I can cook better then a lot of women I know. I do not want to say that all women have to get as strong and aggressiv, but they could learn to assert (right word?) against men. On the other hand - MEN ALSO SUFFER UNDER THOSE PICTURES, PREJUDICES AND CHARACTERS, DONīT THEY? (provoking, isnīt it? :-) ) Which little boy does not hear words like "boys donīt cry" but would like to do? Does still the old hunter-image have to rule my life? Especially in martial arts I see a lot of men who want to be the toughest and strongest - but why, because of "men have to be strong"? I think "the male way of thinking" brought a lot of war and death to earth. Oops - I have become a little excited!?! :-) At the end I would like to point out that we should respect all - men and women - the way the are, and should help them GROWING AND EXTENDING THEIR PERSONALITY. You all know - martial arts could help a lot - men and women, but only if the atmosphere in class will allow that. To offer a class for men and women the teacher (male or female) should ask for the intentions the students have and should take care for a good relationship between everybody. In my own experiences a good hint is to use a language which addresses also women using female phrases, too. IMHO, FMA is very useful for bringing men and women together because - - first they bang their sticks together and do not have direct contact - - FMA offers power and fighting, but also dancing and expressing yourself for women and MEN Again, I do not want to disagree with Tuhon Bill, I only want to point out, that using those researches and phrases will tell us "men have to strong and women have to be soft"!!! Just my provoking two cents :-) ! Bernd Giller, Germany ptbernd@web.de ------------------------------ From: David Reyes Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:48:34 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Ernie Reyes, Jr. At your local Hollywood Video store is Ernie Reyes, Jr.'s newest release titled "The Ultimate Fight" and co-starring Datu Sishir Inocalla of Modern Arnis and Ernie Reyes, Sr. The film centers around Datu Inocalla, whos name is "Pinoy", who travels from the Philippines to America in search of the truth. There are some Arnis fight scenes and a nice but rather short fight with Ernie Reyes, Sr. that resembled Serrada. Sige, David Reyes~ ------------------------------ From: Sidney525@aol.com Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:23:42 EST Subject: eskrima: Kali in South Florida For FMA in South Florida check out Guro Abon of the Garimot system (www.garimot.com), he is located in Miami. Also, Dwight Woods has a JKD/Kali school also in Miami. Sid FKEAC ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:00:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: Ho Ho from CO. Ray ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #141 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. 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