From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #170 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sat, 8 April 2000 Vol 07 : Num 170 In this issue: eskrima: Knife-fighting movie "Exposure" eskrima: 1st Annual Warrior Quest eskrima: Re: Escrima Rattan Sticks eskrima: Dancing with the weapon [none] ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gints Klimanis Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 18:59:06 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Knife-fighting movie "Exposure" Hi, Has anyone seen the movie "Exposure", 1991? I saw this cool knife-fighting movie in the early 90's, but since then, I haven't seen the movie in any video store. I bought it from blockbuster.com for $11.99. The knife fighting coach was Christopher Kent, the Jeet Kune Do guy. From the video box: "Peter Mandrake (Peter Coyote) is an American photographer on assignment in Rio De Janiero when he accidentally becomes involved in the corrupt business of drugs and arms dealing. The knife-murder of a young prostitute he once photographed catapults him into a world of terror when the girl's killers suspect that Peter has a missing coputer disk containg information that could destroy their operation. Mysterious assailants come to this apartment where they brutally attack him and rape his girlfriend (Amanda Pays.) For Mandrake, a line has been crossed from which there is no return. In order to take on his adversaries at their own game, Mandrake studies the art of knife-fighting, learning to cut and thrust from a master fighter, Hermes (Tcheky Karyo of La Femme Nikita). But as the trail for the killers draws closer to their leader, Mandrake fails to realize that the man who taught him killing may be the man he has to kill. For photojournalist Peter Mandrake, leaving the picture behind and entering the real world may cost him his life." My comments: Cool movie. When Peter is taken to select a knife, a spread contains a sub-hilted beauty and a pair of Randalls, among a number of other knives that I couldn't identify. The training drills were cool, based on an 8-angle system. I couldn't make out the flow drills because the footage was truncated at chest level, perhaps because the actors needed more training to pull them off. The drills kinda looked like a block/scoop/counter-thrust sequence. I liked the defense against the burning wick. There were a number of comments on how to kill a guy. I'm wondering if these tips were penned by the author of the screen play or added on the advice of Chris Kent. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 20:11:56 PDT Subject: eskrima: 1st Annual Warrior Quest San Francisco Modern Farang Mu Sul & Academy of Tae Kwon Do presents The 1st Annual Warrior Quest Martial Arts Championship Empty Hand Forms - Weapons Forms - Standup Sparring Grappling - Weapons Sparring Saturday, May 20, 2000 French American School Gymnasium 151 Oak Street San Francisco, CA 1 event = $40, +$5 for each additional event For more infor call 415-661-9657 or email mdealba@pacbell.net Sponsored by: Grandmaster Michael De Alba & Prof. Bill Dewart Grandmaster Michael De Alba SF Modern Farang Mu Sul PO Box 641286 San Francisco, CA 94164-1286 Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "WEE Shin Hoe" Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 13:04:47 +0800 Subject: eskrima: Re: Escrima Rattan Sticks Hello everybody, I would appreciate it very much if you guy can recommend a good place in manila to get burnt rattan sticks. I have been enjoying this list for quite some times an unfortunately, I have very limited knowledge to contribute much to the list. However, I do enjoy the list very much. Regards, S. H. Wee Malaysia shinhoe@pc.jaring.my ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 23:19:06 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Dancing with the weapon A Howl of Greeting to All: Someone wrote (sorry I don't still have the issue in question and forgot who it was-- no offense meant): > > The key difference from my perspective is the emphasis on footwork flow > > drills and structural alignment angling from day one in Umpad's teaching > > method. From what I have seen, the Inosanto blend blade work puts the > > initial emphasis on weapon and hand coordination. Carlton responded: > The Inosanto Blend is from many Escrima styles and just about every style > starts with footwork as its core. The drills and patterns are so > complicated at advancing levels that in seminar format especially ,the > footwork is taken for granted so that the patterns can be learned. , , , > What is interesting to me is what happens when people forget the mobility , >or mobile base as SiGung Lee calls it, and then spar it to no value. It > goes right to the core I think of one of DBMA's principals of power >generation which of course starts with proper mobility to generate power. > Crafty Dog (heavily influenced by the Inosanto teachings) keeps this mobility > in his head at all times even when trying to learn new patterns. , , , The key is > to know when you have to apply economical mobility to > make something work. Many pattern fighters go to a DB "Gathering" to find > patterns fail. Some understand it was not the patterns but the total body > mobility that you call footwork. Others go back to learn more patterns and > fail again later. Still others who have been drilled footwork have no > understanding of how to economically apply it or move in and out of the > strike zone ending up swating more flys than fencing helmets. Several excellent observations in there and a phrase I may steal ("end up swatting more flies than fencing helmets") ;-) Actually, I can understand how someone who has seen only certain aspects in certain contexts might reach the conclusion about Guro I. to which Doc ably responds. Having experienced other aspects in other contexts, I would add that this conclusion is ironic. Guro I's accomplishments in track and as a college football half back are already well known by many and in the present he certainly has used it to thoroughly pick me apart at will when we have sparred. But apart from his skills and attributes, there is the matter of us, his students. As I look around the class when he teaches, I see many people with really excellent footwork. In my own case I have had to work extra on footwork because my footspeed, especially initiation speed, is below average (its the bum knee! yeah, that's it-- the bum knee!) Thus my personal approach is based upon being already moving. This requires integrating stick/blade and footwork-- which is something most people lack under fight conditions. This in my teaching I resolved to simply require simutaneous stick and foot movement from those I train from the beginning. But then one day when I was having so-so results imparting the DBMA drill "Attacking Blocks 1A" at Nick "C-Raw Dog" Sacoulas's school, he offered that in teaching it with beginners he had better luck by allowing them to clearly identify the stick motions before throwing in the footwork. I tried it in the next segment and lo and behold it definitely worked better. Yet in other trainings, the two (foot and stick/blade work) are indivisible. So, I would say it depends upon precisely what is being taught, and that depends upon who the students are. I've heard many good things about Sonny Umpad and hope that I will get to meet him someday. Woof, Crafty Dog ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 09:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #170 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.